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cubs unload farm for garza 

Post#1 » by Pharmcat » Fri Jan 7, 2011 7:09 pm

Headlining the prospects package is right-handed starter Chris Archer, who was just days ago ranked as the Cubs top prospect by Baseball America. Archer was touted as having two plus-plus pitches — a mid-90s fastball and a big slider — and BA suggested he could develop into either a front-line starter or a closer.

The rest of the package included SS Hak-Ju Lee (the No. 4 Cubs prospect), OF Brandon Guyer (Cubs minor league player of the year), C Robinson Chirinos (Cubs best defensive catcher who hit 18 homers last year) and OF Sam Fuld (injury prone fourth outfielder type). The Rays will also include a minor league pitcher and minor league outfielder.


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Post#2 » by sunshinekids99 » Fri Jan 7, 2011 7:35 pm

Am I missing something with Matt Garza? I know he'll improve just by moving away from the AL East, but that seems like a whole lot more than he's worth.
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Post#3 » by bigboy1234 » Sun Jan 9, 2011 4:48 pm

Cubs better hope Archer just becomes a 7th inning guy or something, because he has the chance to be quite good. Not crazy high on the other guys in the deal and Garza is a decent #3 starter with potential to be better.

Some quotes about Archer:
Jim Callis wrote:Archer needs better command but can be a star.

Matt Eddy and John Manuel wrote:He has two plus pitches in a fastball that can sit anywhere from 92-97 mph and a slider that gives him a strikeout weapon. Some scouts have given the fastball and slider 70 grades on the 20-80 scale.
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Post#4 » by craig01 » Sun Jan 9, 2011 7:36 pm

I'll miss Garza as he was consistent last year.

I won't miss his temperament, and the Rays were making another salary dump for down the road.

I hope this works out for the Rays, and it seems like the Cubs gave up an awful lot......but when Garza is good......he is really good.

We'll see how this works out....
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Post#5 » by Starkiller » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:45 pm

I think it's a decent move for the Cubs. I'm a firm believer in moving prospect for proven stud pitchers/players. You gotta think maybe only one of those prospects will pan out to a big leaguer that contributes. Garza will do well for the Cubs. He should eat the weak NL Central alive.
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Post#6 » by TSC25 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:56 pm

Chris Archer, rhp Born: Sept. 26, 1988 • B-T: R-R • Ht: 6-3 • Wt: 180
Drafted: HS—Clayton, N.C., 2006 (5th round) • Signed by: Bob Mayer (Indians)
Chris ArcherBackground: Archer was an afterthought in the class of 2006 high school pitching prospects until he earned a last-minute invitation to the East Coast Professional Showcase the summer before his senior year. He showed a high-80s fastball and an athletic, projectable frame, piquing scouts' interest, then displayed a low-90s heater and sharp slider the following spring. The Indians selected him in the fifth round and signed him away from a Miami commitment for $161,000. Archer received a rude introduction to pro ball, going 1-10, 6.23 in Rookie leagues in his first two seasons and 4-8, 4.29 in low Class A in his third. While he's still not a finished product, he hasn't looked nearly as raw since coming to the Cubs along with relief prospects John Gaub and Jeff Stevens in the Mark DeRosa trade in December 2008. Archer made progress while repeating low Class A in 2009 and then took off last season, when he was Chicago's minor league pitcher of the year and led the system in wins (15), ERA (2.34) and strikeouts (149). Promoted to Double-A in July, he didn't allow an earned run in his first 31 1/3 innings at Tennessee. He continued to star after the season, striking out 10 in six scoreless innings against Cuba in the Pan American Games qualifying tournament in October. He was a no-brainer addition to Chicago's 40-man roster a month later.

Scouting Report: Now that Andrew Cashner has graduated to the big leagues, Archer has the best fastball and slider in the system. He operates from 92-95 mph and touches 97, and though he has an over-the-top delivery, his fastball has some run and sink to it. His slider sits in the mid-80s and peaks at 91 mph, giving him two plus-plus pitches when his command is at its best. His changeup has improved markedly since the trade, and while he throws it a bit hard at times, it should give him an effective third pitch. The Cubs love the way he competes, reaching back for extra velocity when he needs it and demonstrating an ability to win on days when he doesn't have his best stuff. Archer is athletic and has a fluid delivery, and all he has left to do is improve his consistency and command. Though he has cut his walk rate in each of his three years in full-season ball, he still gives up too many free passes. He works up in the strike zone too often, and his high arm slot doesn't afford him much deception, but his stuff is so good that he has surrendered just six homers in 251 innings as a Chicago farmhand.

The Future: Archer draws some Edwin Jackson comparisons, with scouts noting that Archer has better secondary pitches at the same age. He's ready for Triple-A Iowa at age 22 and not far off from the majors, especially if the Cubs wanted to promote him as a reliever like they did with Cashner last year. If Archer continues to progress as he has the last two years, he'll arrive in Wrigley Field around midseason. He projects as a frontline starter if he refines his command, and he easily has the stuff and poise to become a closer.

2010 Club (Class) W L ERA G GS CG SV IP H HR BB SO AVG
Daytona (Hi A) 7 1 2.86 15 14 0 0 72 54 4 26 82 .202
Tennessee (AA) 8 2 1.80 13 13 0 0 70 48 2 39 67 .198
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Post#7 » by TSC25 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:59 pm

Hak-Ju Lee, ss Born: Nov. 4, 1990 • B-T: L-R • Ht: 6-2 • Wt: 175
Drafted: Korea, 2008 • Signed by: Steve Wilson
Hak-Ju LeeBackground: Few clubs scout the Far East as actively as the Cubs, whose biggest recent prize is Lee, signed for $725,000 out of Korea in 2008. He had Tommy John surgery before coming to the United States, but it hasn't held him back. He ranked as the short-season Northwest League's No. 1 prospect in his 2009 pro debut, and he and Brett Jackson represented Chicago at the Futures Game last July.

Scouting Report: A potential leadoff hitter, Lee controls the strike zone and has plus-plus speed. He has the bat speed and strength in his hands to hit for some power once he develops his upper body, though he can get overly aggressive and spin off some balls. Managers rated Lee the best defensive shortstop in the low Class A Midwest League in 2010. He has quick reactions, good range to both sides and a strong arm, though he needs to improve his reads and his focus after making 34 errors in 118 games last year. He also has to break a habit of flipping throws to first base. He picked up English quickly, helping him soak up instruction.

The Future: Lee will play at high Class A Daytona at age 20. The Cubs have time before they'll have to decide where to play him and Starlin Castro on the same club. Lee is quicker and flashier, so he could push Castro to second base.

2010 Club (Class) AVG OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB
Peoria (Lo A) .282 .354 .351 485 85 137 22 4 1 40 49 86 32
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Post#8 » by TSC25 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:00 pm

Brandon Guyer, of Born: Jan. 26, 1986 • B-T: R-R • Ht: 6-1 • Wt: 210
Signed: Virginia, 2007 (5th round) • Signed by: Billy Swoope
Brandon GuyerBackground: When the Cubs scouted Guyer at a 2007 NCAA playoff game, they saw him dislocate his left shoulder in a home-plate collision. The shoulder bothered him for his first two years in pro ball, and it led to another stint on the disabled list last May. That didn't stop him from leading the system in batting (.344) and the Double-A Southern League in slugging (.588) and OPS (.986), which earned him the organization's minor league player of the year award and a spot on the 40-man roster.

Scouting Report: An all-Virginia high school running back and linebacker who drew interest from college football programs, Guyer has solid power, plus speed and the best present outfield skills in the system. He's aggressive in all phases of the game, which hurts him at the plate because he makes contact so easily that he doesn't draw many walks. He knows how to use his quickness on the bases, swiping 30 bags in 33 tries last year. Guyer can play all three outfield positions, thanks to his speed and instincts. His arm has improved to where it's now average, and it's accurate as well.

The Future: Scouts see Guyer as a lesser version of Brett Jackson or a stronger version of Reed Johnson. Guyer's encore this year in Triple-A will help determine whether he'll become a regular or a fourth outfielder.

2010 Club (Class) AVG OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB
Tennessee (AA) .344 .398 .588 369 76 127 39 6 13 58 27 51 30

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