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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1201 » by Rude Boy 1 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:55 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Chris Singleton is an interesting prospect, if you're looking for a SF in this draft. Reportedly, he's a very capable defender, who can guard multiple positions. He's averaging 8 rpg. as well.

I think he could be a steal if he's still around in the 20s.


Speaking of steals, whoever picks Jimmer Fredette is going to get a player. Fredette is incredibly underrated as a pro prospect. I guess people will have to tune in during the NCAA tourney to see his offensive prowess. He's one of those players, that with a good tourney, will elevate his stock. I hear people talking about him being a fringe first-rounder - there's nothing fringe about it, he should be a lock for the 1st rd...and I think he should go in the top 20 definitely.


I like Chris Singleton a lot! He's not much of a scorer but he is does everything else at a high level. I doubt he will be available in the 20's if we are to grab him(and I really want us to!!!) it would have to be in a trade up scenario( Evans and Miami pick for the 15th pick.) I don't even realistically think there is a viable trade out there to get it done.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1202 » by RomaniaLuvTR » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:20 pm

Rude Boy 1 wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Chris Singleton is an interesting prospect, if you're looking for a SF in this draft. Reportedly, he's a very capable defender, who can guard multiple positions. He's averaging 8 rpg. as well.

I think he could be a steal if he's still around in the 20s.


Speaking of steals, whoever picks Jimmer Fredette is going to get a player. Fredette is incredibly underrated as a pro prospect. I guess people will have to tune in during the NCAA tourney to see his offensive prowess. He's one of those players, that with a good tourney, will elevate his stock. I hear people talking about him being a fringe first-rounder - there's nothing fringe about it, he should be a lock for the 1st rd...and I think he should go in the top 20 definitely.


I like Chris Singleton a lot! He's not much of a scorer but he is does everything else at a high level. I doubt he will be available in the 20's if we are to grab him(and I really want us to!!!) it would have to be in a trade up scenario( Evans and Miami pick for the 15th pick.) I don't even realistically think there is a viable trade out there to get it done.

i really doubt he`s going to get drafted before the 20 pick..
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Post#1203 » by Rude Boy 1 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:03 pm

Baylor vs. Kansas @ 9:30 tonight!!

Jones and Selby
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Post#1204 » by fredericklove » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:15 pm

Rude Boy 1 wrote:Baylor vs. Kansas @ 9:30 tonight!!

Jones and Selby


One of the best games to watch for sure.
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Post#1205 » by Waylon Mercy » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:16 am

fredericklove wrote:
Rude Boy 1 wrote:Baylor vs. Kansas @ 9:30 tonight!!

Jones and Selby


One of the best games to watch for sure.


Im gonna tape the game so I can have a copy of it and watch it again
around draft time. Some time Youtube clips aren't enough come draft time :)
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Post#1206 » by CunningLinguist » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:53 am

fredericklove wrote:
Rude Boy 1 wrote:Baylor vs. Kansas @ 9:30 tonight!!

Jones and Selby


One of the best games to watch for sure.



Just be prepared that watching Baylor games to scout Perry Jones can be frustrating. They don't involve him in the offense much and their guards have a hard time getting him the ball in a position where he can attack the basket.
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Post#1207 » by fredericklove » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:00 am

CunningLinguist wrote:
fredericklove wrote:
Rude Boy 1 wrote:Baylor vs. Kansas @ 9:30 tonight!!

Jones and Selby


One of the best games to watch for sure.



Just be prepared that watching Baylor games to scout Perry Jones can be frustrating. They don't involve him in the offense much and their guards have a hard time getting him the ball in a position where he can attack the basket.


Their guards never pass the ball to anyone anyways :lol:
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Post#1208 » by CunningLinguist » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:07 am

Just be prepared that watching Baylor games to scout Perry Jones can be frustrating. They don't involve him in the offense much and their guards have a hard time getting him the ball in a position where he can attack the basket.[/quote]

Their guards never pass the ball to anyone anyways :lol:[/quote]

That's the reason I don't think his skills will truly shine until pre-draft workouts. I'd like to see him break guys down off the dribble to see if he could play a bit of SF at the next level. I still see him as a face-up PF, partly because I don't think he has the lateral quicks to defend SFs.
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Post#1209 » by Silk Wilkes » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:14 am

fredericklove wrote:
CunningLinguist wrote:
fredericklove wrote:
One of the best games to watch for sure.



Just be prepared that watching Baylor games to scout Perry Jones can be frustrating. They don't involve him in the offense much and their guards have a hard time getting him the ball in a position where he can attack the basket.


Their guards never pass the ball to anyone anyways :lol:


I can understand why LaceDarius doesn't pass but what's up with the point guard? lol
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Post#1210 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:20 am

Starting to move from Irving camp to Perry Jones camp

My beef with Irving is that while he's a well sized PG with good speed and a great handling and shooting skillset... what X factor does he have that puts him above everyone else? I don't think he'll be quite as blazing fast in the halfcourt as people expect, he's not in the Wall, Rose, Westbrook athleticism camp. The biggest reason he looks so fast is his transition play which will be much harder to come by in the NBA. A guy like Wes Johnson is a good example of not to think players can carry transition dominance to the next level. Passing? It looks good but not exemplary, he was scouted as a combo guard coming into this year and is still scoring more than passing. In Irving I see a guy who does everything well, but everything other PGs can do. He reminds me of a 6'2-6'3 Ty Lawson

I believe he's a great prospect, but could end up more like a very very good, top 10 starter rather than a legitimate all-star or perenniel all-star. Which is fine, that might be the best in this draft. But we'd be searching for a #1 guy still.

Perry on the other hand. 6'10-6'11 monster athlete, who wants to play like a guard. At SF or PF.. I'd prefer SF, he could be impossible to deal with. He's the anti Irving in that he could have tools in his box almost nobody else in the league has. He has more in common with Vince and Bosh than Irving does, from a physical/athleticism perspective. So it'd be a risk... but if it panned out, he'd be our 3rd franchise guy who just feels like on a different level of physical talent than everyone else on the court most nights
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Post#1211 » by CunningLinguist » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:26 am

Dr Mufasa wrote:Starting to move from Irving camp to Perry Jones camp

My beef with Irving is that while he's a well sized PG with good speed and a great handling and shooting skillset... what X factor does he have that puts him above everyone else? I don't think he'll be quite as blazing fast in the halfcourt as people expect, he's not in the Wall, Rose, Westbrook athleticism camp. The biggest reason he looks so fast is his transition play which will be much harder to come by in the NBA. A guy like Wes Johnson is a good example of not to think players can carry transition dominance to the next level. Passing? It looks good but not exemplary, he was scouted as a combo guard coming into this year and is still scoring more than passing. In Irving I see a guy who does everything well, but everything other PGs can do. He reminds me of a 6'2-6'3 Ty Lawson

I believe he's a great prospect, but could end up more like a very very good, top 10 starter rather than a legitimate all-star or perenniel all-star. Which is fine, that might be the best in this draft. But we'd be searching for a #1 guy still.

Perry on the other hand. 6'10-6'11 monster athlete, who wants to play like a guard. At SF or PF.. I'd prefer SF, he could be impossible to deal with. He's the anti Irving in that he could have tools in his box almost nobody else in the league has. He has more in common with Vince and Bosh than Irving does, from a physical/athleticism perspective. So it'd be a risk... but if it panned out, damn.


Irving's change of speed and basketball IQ set him apart.
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Post#1212 » by Silk Wilkes » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:29 am

I see what everyone is saying with Perry Jones in that his potential is probably the highest in this draft BUT I see him as a Power Forward. Now, I'm not gonna lie and say I've seen him play a lot of games this year so I could very well be wrong. I just don't see him as a small forward in the NBA and the last time I check the only Power Forwards in recent memory to lead their teams to a title were Duncan and Garnett although Garnett was more of a vocal leader. I hope I'm wrong.
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Post#1213 » by Waylon Mercy » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:34 am

Colangelo is gonna be at the Baylor game... General scouting or does he have his eye
on Perry Jones or even Selby?

I definitely see Jones as a SF in the NBA no doubt... Hes a bit of a tweener though
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Post#1214 » by Rude Boy 1 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:48 am

Waylon Mercy wrote:Colangelo is gonna be at the Baylor game... General scouting or does he have his eye
on Perry Jones or even Selby?


I definitely see Jones as a SF in the NBA no doubt... Hes a bit of a tweener though


Due diligence.
these guys are one everyone's radar BC included. Although Jones is again the type of play BC loves, guys that supposedly can play multiple positions.
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Post#1215 » by fredericklove » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:57 am

BC prolly scouting on one of the white players on both team, definitely not on PJ and Selby
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Post#1216 » by CunningLinguist » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:03 am

fredericklove wrote:BC prolly scouting on one of the white players on both team, definitely not on PJ and Selby


He can join those other "white" guys that he's drafted over the past couple years:

Derozan
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Post#1217 » by mappiah19 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:04 am

Tweeners are the most difficult to judge. Perry does look intriguing but is he going to be another hyped up prospect that turns into a sixthman/role player like Jonathan Bender, Lamar Odom, Marvin Williams, Tyrus Thomas, Anthony Randolph etc. Baylor is definitely not showcasing all his talent.

I'm more of a traditionalist and like players with defined positions like Terrance Jones (surefire SF) and Kyrie Irving (PG).

And lastly, I'm really concerned with the way Raptors develop players especially if they draft a player like Perry Jones whose position is undefined.
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Post#1218 » by fredericklove » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:12 am

CunningLinguist wrote:
fredericklove wrote:BC prolly scouting on one of the white players on both team, definitely not on PJ and Selby


He can join those other "white" guys that he's drafted over the past couple years:

Derozan
Davis
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Post#1219 » by CunningLinguist » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:12 am

mappiah19 wrote:Tweeners are the most difficult to judge. Perry does look intriguing but is he going to be another hyped up prospect that turns into a sixthman/role player like Jonathan Bender, Lamar Odom, Marvin Williams, Tyrus Thomas, Anthony Randolph etc. Baylor is definitely not showcasing all his talent.

I'm more of a traditionalist and like players with defined positions like Terrance Jones (surefire SF) and Kyrie Irving (PG).

And lastly, I'm really concerned with the way Raptors develop players especially if they draft a player like Perry Jones whose position is undefined.


I see Perry Jones as a more of a face-up PF than a tweener. ( a term which I feel tends to be overused/misused).

With you on Terrence Jones, who I love as an SF at the next level. I don't understand what skills Harrison Barnes has that TJ doesn't for the SF position, other than a nicer looking shot.
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Post#1220 » by Waylon Mercy » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:36 am

Jones has guard like skills he can handle the ball, create his own shot, can pass and has can
shoot. Baylor doesn't utilize his skillset pretty much everybody agrees with that. Not sure why
he would choose a school like Baylor.

The NBA game is so much different then College and the players are bigger. Jones is raw like
DeRozan was/is but when he blossoms watch out. I see him playing SF at the NBA most of the
time and you can use him as a 4 when other teams go small.

Honestly I just want a top 3 pick.... As long as we are guaranteed one of Irving, P jones & T
Jones I'll be happy.

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