[Camelo Thread Part 11] - Knicks make offer? Pg 82

nykinoz · Post #1081 » by **nykinoz** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:20 am

Ok, i hate Wojina, but crikey, his last 2 articles and had me LMAO. Vicous, vicous words about the Nets.

Context · Post #1082 » by **Context** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:22 am

kingmalaki wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:
kingmalaki wrote:Edit: Sorry, didn't mean to post the whole thing. Morey just says Rockets back in the game with Nets bowing out. If it's gotta be a rental then we will try.

You can try but you're honestly gonna be used for leverage more than likely to get the Knicks to ante up.

I honestly think he may just be trying to get in on a deal routing him to NY, now or this summer. But all indications point to him being interested in a rental. So a NY offer has to trump a Houston one...at least for this season.

Link pls?

GotItNow · Post #1083 » by **GotItNow** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:33 am

Starksfor3 wrote:
Ewing33 wrote:i wish there was a way for all knick fans to let WWW know much of a douchebag he is...

Does he have a Twitter account?

Hell he might even have like a phone number or something.

Pharmcat · Post #1084 » by **Pharmcat** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:35 am

holy smokes, woj destroyed the nets in his last piece

damn

GotItNow · Post #1085 » by **GotItNow** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:41 am

god shammgod wrote:CSheridanESPN Chris Sheridan
IMO the Knicks need to come with a realistic offer and present it immediately. Team is in a slide (L4 straight). Spite can become a factor.

Oh boy! That's what i've been rooting for all along. Denver spites Knicks/Melo and won't trade him here. Melo is forced to come as a FA. Wunderbar!!!! Get mean and surly Denver, c'mon boys!

GotItNow · Post #1086 » by **GotItNow** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:52 am

Starksfor3 wrote:
BigUgly wrote:Add Feilds to that trade for Denver and I think it fair

That's because you are horrible at trades. BigUgly should be the nickname for any trade you think up.

We have all the leverage but you think it's a good idea to take on Harrington's contact AND give up Gallo AND Fields.

Nah.

No.

Negative.

daBockas wrote:trade thought, sorry if posted already

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=4b8xklw

buike (80% insured)
curry (expring)
gallo
2 first rounders (through donnie's alleged magic)
mozgov

for

melo
harrington

yes i know, everyone hates no sharington, myself included but if we dont want to give up two out of the gallo chandler fields pool i see no other way than taking on al's contract. Nuggets get huge financial savings with curry and buike's contracts and unloading al's 5 year deal and get upside players in gallo and mozgov and a wealth of picks (which i'd debating giving 2, maybe just 1 of them). I think mozgov will be a decent pro, but i think we overvalue him. you can sub out gallo for chandler, but i think it's important we keep fields, guy looks to be the ultimate role player. starting five would be

felts
fields
melo
chandler
stat

harrington sixth man. we can worry about defense in the offseason, i dont think we're going to be able to get a decent big man until we pull a melo deal cuz otherwise we're too scared of salaries and assets that would ruin our chances.

That's a BigUgly right there.

Post #1087 » by **knicks742** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:55 am

So I am curious what does Incarcerated Bob have to say?

GotItNow · Post #1088 » by **GotItNow** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:57 am

Starksfor3 wrote:Damn, why you gotta hate on Smush Parker like that...

He must have pissed in Kobe's cheerios at some point. :-?

GotItNow · Post #1089 » by **GotItNow** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:02 am

seren wrote:You have to give it to Morey and Houston ownership for their desire to put a winning team on the floor.

the harsh reality is, they suck at it. I keep hearing about what a genius Morey is and then I look at the standings and see Houston with a 20-23 record. Morey=Most Overrated GM in history.

GotItNow · Post #1090 » by **GotItNow** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:04 am

KnicksGod wrote:Marc Stein did say this. I think his opinions about this are obviously biased though.

Word is Denver, furthermore, does now concede that negotiating more seriously with the Knicks is unavoidable, as our own Chris Sheridan has laid out, since New York is still the only team that Anthony is definitely willing to extend with.

Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

Post #1091 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:08 am

knicks742 wrote:So I am curious what does Incarcerated Bob have to say?

lol I've been dying to see an update from Bob since Tuesday.

Punk · Post #1092 » by **Punk** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:13 am

Kris Humphries clowning Bob. :lol:

Kris Humphries: You are that guy LOL I just farted. People are starting to look at me...time to move.

Gregory151 · Post #1093 » by **Gregory151** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:22 am

KnicksGod wrote:
knicks742 wrote:So I am curious what does Incarcerated Bob have to say?

lol I've been dying to see an update from Bob since Tuesday.

incarceratedbob incarcerated bob
**BREAKING NEWS** As i reported right here on Saturday - Nets indeed have permission to talk with Carmelo about contract. #MediaLateAgain
19 Jan

incarceratedbob incarcerated bob
**BREAKING NEWS** Nets owner *Officially* tells management to stop pursuing Carmelo Anthony - Melo kept jerking Nets around so this is it
19 Jan

:nonono:

incarceratedbob incarcerated bob
**NBA RUMOR** Carmelo's people are trying to get the Chicago Bulls involved for a possible trade. Bulls still need time to sort things out
19 Jan

kingmalaki · Post #1094 » by **kingmalaki** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:31 am

louieOrr wrote:
knicks742 wrote:
kingmalaki wrote:Edit: Sorry, didn't mean to post the whole thing. Morey just says Rockets back in the game with Nets bowing out. If it's gotta be a rental then we will try.

It will be interesting to see what market Houston sets as the rental price. I respect your GM so curious to see what he is willing to pony up because then he is taking the risk that he loses Melo for nothing this summer which is what Denver is trying to avoid.

Im not trying to attack here. But that is a real grimy, parasitic move by Morey. Melo does not want Houston, or their ugly red polyester uniforms. I guess Morey is not worried about establishing good relationships with other GM's. I hope if Houston gets involved just to extort assets from us, that we (Donnie) get the opportunity for payback for that lecherous move by Morey. To me that is just bad business. I cannot respect that kind of tactic at all. If they want him because they think the can get an extended Melo, then I can respect that.

It's not bad business. Our draft rights take a direct hit with Melo in Houston. Why wouldn't our GM do everything in his power to prevent that or get something out of it? That's his job.

As far as him not wanting to be there, that's how it is for all players until they hit free agency. That's when players get to leave. Melo may be using all of his clout to "act" as a free agent while he is under contract, but he isn't a free agent yet.

kingmalaki · Post #1095 » by **kingmalaki** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:35 am

kneega wrote:
kingmalaki wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:You can try but you're honestly gonna be used for leverage more than likely to get the Knicks to ante up.

I honestly think he may just be trying to get in on a deal routing him to NY, now or this summer. But all indications point to him being interested in a rental. So a NY offer has to trump a Houston one...at least for this season.

Link pls?

I don't have any links to show what Morey is offering Denver, if anything at all. There are tons of links saying the Rockets are willing to trade for Melo without an extension. All we can do is guess what may be offered but I doubt you see any link about it.

towelie · Post #1096 » by **towelie** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:37 am

kingmalaki wrote:
It's not bad business. Our draft rights take a direct hit with Melo in Houston. Why wouldn't our GM do everything in his power to prevent that or get something out of it? That's his job.

As far as him not wanting to be there, that's how it is for all players until they hit free agency. That's when players get to leave. Melo may be using all of his clout to "act" as a free agent while he is under contract, but he isn't a free agent yet.

What in your opinion will be Houston's rental offer? And will it be better than a package of say Gallo, Walker, 1st rd pick (from Randolph trade), NY 2014 1st, and taking back a long contract like Harrington and/or Birdman?

Cause the reality is, whatever Houston offers, the first thing Denver will do is take that rental offer to Donnie Walsh and in better words, tell him to "beat this."

So really, the only way Houston gets Melo is if NY doesn't beat Houston's offer, or Denver refuses to trade him to NY out of spite. And I honestly don't see how a package of Hill/Buddinger/1st is better than Gallo/Walker/2 1sts. And even if you guys do offer more, Donnie may then just ante up and include Fields as well.

kingmalaki · Post #1097 » by **kingmalaki** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:39 am

GotItNow wrote:
seren wrote:You have to give it to Morey and Houston ownership for their desire to put a winning team on the floor.

the harsh reality is, they suck at it. I keep hearing about what a genius Morey is and then I look at the standings and see Houston with a 20-23 record. Morey=Most Overrated GM in history.

We suck, yet our records are close and our best player is out for the year? And we just beat y'all, again. So what does that say about NY?

kingmalaki · Post #1098 » by **kingmalaki** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:45 am

towelie

I don't think a Houston offer can beat a full scale "extended Melo value" offer like you just listed. Do you think your GM will offer all of that? Opinions on it seem to vary in this thread (on what he will offer).

Context · Post #1099 » by **Context** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:46 am

kingmalaki wrote:
GotItNow wrote:
seren wrote:You have to give it to Morey and Houston ownership for their desire to put a winning team on the floor.

the harsh reality is, they suck at it. I keep hearing about what a genius Morey is and then I look at the standings and see Houston with a 20-23 record. Morey=Most Overrated GM in history.

We suck, yet our records are close and our best player is out for the year? And we just beat y'all, again. So what does that say about NY?

Half the team has the Melo cloud over the head. Our recent bad play coincided right when the Melo talks intensified. Chandler even fired his agent today. Ironically, each time you faced the Knicks it wasn't the same team that won 13 out of 14, beat the Spurs, Okla, the Suns THE FIRST time. We just lost to Sac and the Suns before we came to Houston. Just as the Nets beat Utah when Prov made his announcement. I expect the Knicks good play to resume once Melo is hopefully traded before the deadline...

towelie · Post #1100 » by **towelie** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:53 am

kingmalaki wrote:towelie

I don't think a Houston offer can beat a full scale "extended Melo value" offer like you just listed. Do you think your GM will offer all of that? Opinions on it seem to vary in this thread (on what he will offer).

There are those who want to gut the team for Melo, and those who feel he's overrated and not even worth it, but the majority feel that any deal for Melo that has us only giving up one of Gallo, Chandler, or Fields, is what we hope Donnie has put out there, even if it means taking on a bad contract like Harrington or Birdman, both of whom could still be rotation players for us.