[Camelo Thread Part 11] - Knicks make offer? Pg 82

siar617 · Post #1281 » by **siar617** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:55 pm

What about Gallo to sactown for their pick plus capsi

Post #1282 » by **kane2021** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:55 pm

And we heard rumors that DEN was not interested in Mayo. You dont want to take on salary. You dont want a soon to be free agent. IDK what these dudes are thinking. Unless Love is available I dont see what player is out there for them.

Knickplaya · Post #1283 » by **Knickplaya** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:56 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:what could chandler get from other teams?

I know there was the rumor bout mayo

dallas doesnt really have much to offer

port wont pony up batum

any suggestions?

i really don't know and denver supposedly doesn't like mayo, so that's out.

Can't we involve a 4th team that LIKES Mayo, and would be willing to ship someone to Denver/Memphis in return?????

Lottery Bound · Post #1284 » by **Lottery Bound** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:56 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4r6emw7

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #1285 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:58 pm

They are going to ask for too much until the week of the deadline. DW just has to be patient--and that's easy when you're constantly asleep.

swisscheeseD · Post #1286 » by **swisscheeseD** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:02 pm

god shammgod wrote:i wish walsh was willing to take al back because i think that would make this easier and cheaper. oh well.

It's negotiation 101...We all know Donnie isn't going to show his cards this early in the game. He still has a month to let this play out, but layed out a reasonable starting point now. I have no doubt that Donnie will take back Harrington if need be, just as I believe he'd have no problem in swapping Gallo for Will if he had to.

pak14life · Post #1287 » by **pak14life** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:03 pm

Donnie cant let this thing go on to long without it effecting the team. I expect Donnie to eventually give the Nuggets a deadline before he backs off like the Nets did.

The Nuggets leaked today's thing on purpose, Knicks would never leak this as it gets back to the players.

Starksfor3 · Post #1288 » by **Starksfor3** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:04 pm

pak14life wrote:Donnie cant let this thing go on to long without it effecting the team. I expect Donnie to eventually give the Nuggets a deadline before he backs off like the Nets did.

The Nuggets leaked today's thing on purpose, Knicks would never leak this as it gets back to the players.

The Knicks will not back out because it might offend Melo. Players will just have to suck it up and play through. (PAUSE)

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #1289 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:06 pm

Starksfor3 wrote:
pak14life wrote:Donnie cant let this thing go on to long without it effecting the team. I expect Donnie to eventually give the Nuggets a deadline before he backs off like the Nets did.

The Nuggets leaked today's thing on purpose, Knicks would never leak this as it gets back to the players.

The Knicks will not back out because it might offend Melo. Players will just have to suck it up and play through. (PAUSE)

Difference between Nets leaks hurting their existing team as compared to the Knicks is that the best two players on the Knicks are not involved and they can set the tone for the rest of the team on the court.

CHARLYMURPHY · Post #1290 » by **CHARLYMURPHY** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:07 pm

Why Trade Landry Fields why?? Who the hell trades a ROY candidate?

Hes our only SG, if we trade him we are not winning a championship with Bill Walker manning the helm.

Context · Post #1291 » by **Context** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:07 pm

Starksfor3 wrote:If they shot down Wilson + Fields + 1st and expect to get much more, there's no deal to be made. Sorry Carmelo lovers. Time to test his mettle.

The Knicks since the Ewing era have NEVER had two players like Melo and Stat play together. It has been proven time and time again that championship teams need AT LEAST two super-stars or a superstar and a couple of all-stars. At what point do we learn from our mistakes? By mistakes I mean over valuing our players and risking missing out on an opportunity to have two superstars play together. And most importantly TWO SUPERSTARS that WANT TO BE HERE. Two guys with TONS of play-off experience...

adog50 · Post #1292 » by **adog50** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:10 pm

CHARLYMURPHY wrote:Why Trade Landry Fields why?? Who the hell trades a ROY candidate?

Hes our only SG, if we trade him we are not winning a championship with Bill Walker manning the helm.

Because simply we cant win a Championship with this group. Thats the goal.

knickabocker88 · Post #1293 » by **knickabocker88** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:10 pm

Sooner rather than later

My lust for fields has dipped this past month whats hurts us is that Affalo is a better version of Fields, you can't have enough smart players if your Den.

Throw in Azu and we'll take back Birdman else tell em the Press Conference is July 8th at the Garden

swisscheeseD · Post #1294 » by **swisscheeseD** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:11 pm

If we trade Fields, I wouldn't mind Anthony Parker on the cheap.

Post #1295 » by **knicks742** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:12 pm

This is simply a horrendous first offer IF it is indeed true. Horrendous. You don't offer Chandler and Fields as your first offer, maybe you eventually have to give both of them up but you just set the floor of your offer at Chandler and Fields. Absolutely horrible move.

Context · Post #1296 » by **Context** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:12 pm

CHARLYMURPHY wrote:Why Trade Landry Fields why?? Who the hell trades a ROY candidate?

Hes our only SG, if we trade him we are not winning a championship with Bill Walker manning the helm.

The Knicks since the Ewing era have NEVER had two players like Melo and Stat play together. It has been proven time and time again that championship teams need AT LEAST two super-stars or a superstar and a couple of all-stars. At what point do we learn from our mistakes? By mistakes I mean over valuing our players and risking missing out on an opportunity to have two superstars play together. And most importantly TWO SUPERSTARS that WANT TO BE HERE. Two guys with TONS of play-off experience...

Post #1297 » by **moocow007** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:13 pm

Pharmcat wrote:what could chandler get from other teams?

I know there was the rumor bout mayo

dallas doesnt really have much to offer

port wont pony up batum

any suggestions?

Clippers? Apparently the Clips have put acquiring a SF as one of their top priorities. With all this movement of superstar types and the statement out of Clip land of their "intent" to keep Griffin, it would seem logical that while Aminu has a lot of upside that they are looking to make a move now to establish themselves as more of a team of today and not a team of (perpetual) tomorrow.

Chandler to the Clips (he should be interested since he'd end up starting there at his natural positon and could be looking at spending the next 5 years or so playing alongide Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon), Aminu to the Nuggets? Aminu is in his 1st year of his rookie contract and has upside. He also plays the same position Carmelo would vacate.

Post #1298 » by **knicks742** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:14 pm

kneega wrote:
CHARLYMURPHY wrote:Why Trade Landry Fields why?? Who the hell trades a ROY candidate?

Hes our only SG, if we trade him we are not winning a championship with Bill Walker manning the helm.

The Knicks since the Ewing era have NEVER had two players like Melo and Stat play together. It has been proven time and time again that championship teams need AT LEAST two super-stars or a superstar and a couple of all-stars. At what point do we learn from our mistakes? By mistakes I mean over valuing our players and risking missing out on an opportunity to have two superstars play together. And most importantly TWO SUPERSTARS that WANT TO BE HERE. Two guys with TONS of play-off experience...

I can understand that but you dont make that offer as a FIRST offer. Maybe it becomes a negotiated compromise that gets you to this offer but this offer just became the floor. Now, to get him, you are going to have to give up even more. Terrible move if true.

Pharmcat · Post #1299 » by **Pharmcat** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:15 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:what could chandler get from other teams?

I know there was the rumor bout mayo

dallas doesnt really have much to offer

port wont pony up batum

any suggestions?

Clippers? Apparently the Clips have put acquiring a SF as one of their top priorities. With all this movement of superstar types and the statement out of Clip land of their "intent" to keep Griffin, it would seem logical that while Aminu has a lot of upside that they are looking to make a move now to establish themselves as more of a team of today and not a team of (perpetual) tomorrow.

Chandler to the Clips (he should be interested since he'd end up starting there at his natural positon and could be looking at spending the next 5 years or so playing alongide Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon), Aminu to the Nuggets? Aminu is in his 1st year of his rookie contract and has upside. He also plays the same position Carmelo would vacate.

get it done donnie!!!!

CHARLYMURPHY · Post #1300 » by **CHARLYMURPHY** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:15 pm

kneega wrote:
CHARLYMURPHY wrote:Why Trade Landry Fields why?? Who the hell trades a ROY candidate?

Hes our only SG, if we trade him we are not winning a championship with Bill Walker manning the helm.

The Knicks since the Ewing era have NEVER had two players like Melo and Stat play together. It has been proven time and time again that championship teams need AT LEAST two super-stars or a superstar and a couple of all-stars. At what point do we learn from our mistakes? By mistakes I mean over valuing our players and risking missing out on an opportunity to have two superstars play together. And most importantly TWO SUPERSTARS that WANT TO BE HERE. Two guys with TONS of play-off experience...

Who's the SG? Bill Walker? I wouldnt do the trade with fields unless theirs a 3rd team involved and us recieving a somewhat average SG. Even if we get Carmelo SG and C would be a new glaring need instead of just C