The trading of Mats

[Griff83]

It becomes more clear every passing game that this team isnt a playoff team and greatly needs to rebuild its core going forward. Mats is the key here seeing hes our teams best player and is very attractive to contenders looking to make a run and having him on contract just for this season. Trading him would greatly aid in the rebuilding process as we could add a decent young player, a pick and a upper prospect. With Peddie saying thru the media recently that any deal with Sundin would have to be brough to the board, it seems veru obvious they have bantered around the likely possibilty that he will be traded. Lets here posters view on where he should be traded and what they would like to get back from that team.

With the swedish connection and the fact the Red Wings are legit contenders, they seem like the best fit for Mats imo. This is what Id like to get back from them.

Filpula
Jakub Kindl
2008 first round pick

detroit might see that as a steep price to pay but adding Mats would almost make them a shoe-in to win the cup.

[Tor-Rap-Tor]

It becomes more clear every passing game that this team isnt a playoff team and greatly needs to rebuild its core going forward. Mats is the key here seeing hes our teams best player and is very attractive to contenders looking to make a run and having him on contract just for this season. Trading him would greatly aid in the rebuilding process as we could add a decent young player, a pick and a upper prospect. With Peddie saying thru the media recently that any deal with Sundin would have to be brough to the board, it seems veru obvious they have bantered around the likely possibilty that he will be traded. Lets here posters view on where he should be traded and what they would like to get back from that team.

With the swedish connection and the fact the Red Wings are legit contenders, they seem like the best fit for Mats imo. This is what Id like to get back from them.

Filpula
Jakub Kindl
2008 first round pick

detroit might see that as a steep price to pay but adding Mats would almost make them a shoe-in to win the cup.

I definitely think Mats is on the block and that he is being shopped around...

Having said that, as I'm a big fan of his, I hope he will be here next year and will remain a Leaf for life...

In the event he is traded some deals I would do are the one mentioned above and...

From Anaheim
Bobby Ryan and Edmonton's first this year

[NeverGoingToWin]

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I think both teams would be overpaying. This is going to be a good draft so Anaheim should keep Edmonton's pick.

[Tor-Rap-Tor]

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I think both teams would be overpaying. This is going to be a good draft so Anaheim should keep Edmonton's pick.

I agree they would be over paying but considering what they are getting, it would pretty near ensure that they are cup contenders, with a great chance to take it all...

Prospects and Draft choices are just that, unknown commodities and trading a great player like Mats is not something that should be done, for a hand full of suspect prospects and long shot draft choices...

Bobby Ryan is a blue chip prospect and as you have eluded to, Edmonton's pick in this draft is a very good one and could be in the lottery come June and in my opinion, it's a stiff price but one I would hold out for. In the Detroit scenario Filppula and Kindl are good prospects but the draft choice, is like last in the first round and would actually be more like a second so this is fall back deal...

Another Deal has the Canucks dealing
Luc Bourdon,
Pat White
Michael Grabner and their first

for Sundin and ?

Again good prospects and fair draft choice (not as good as Ryan though)...

[Tor-Rap-Tor]

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/Hockey/article/292233

If they were JFJ ...

GLENN HEALY

During a 15-year career, played for the Los Angeles Kings, New York Islanders, New York Rangers and Maple Leafs. It has widely been speculated he is a candidate to become an NHL general manager.

I would trade Sundin to Ottawa for ...

Andrej Meszaros, D. 22 years old. In 41 games, has 7 goals, 12 assists and has a plus-minus rating of plus-8.

Patrick Eaves, RW. 23 years old. In 20 games, has 4 goals, 4 assists.

Antoine Vermette, LW. 25 years old. In 40 games, has eight goals, 15 assists.

Two first- or second-round draft picks in 2008.

JOHN MUCKLER

Muckler has more than 50 years of pro hockey experience as a part owner, general manager, director of player personnel, director of hockey operations, head coach, assistant coach and player.

I would trade Sundin to Detroit for ...

Andreas Lilja, D. 32 years old. In 42 games, has 2 goals, 7 assists with a plus-minus rating of plus-7.

Brendan Smith, D. 18 years old. A Toronto native, Smith was Detroit's first-round pick in 2007.

Two high round picks.

PHIL ESPOSITO

Coach and GM of the Rangers for three years in the mid-1980s, during which he earned the nickname "Trader Phil." He also was GM of the Lightning.

I would trade Sundin to Pittsburgh for ...

Jordan Staal, C. 19 years old. In 41 games, has 3 goals, 7 assists.

Angelo Esposito, C. Was Pittsburgh's first-round pick in 2007, 20th overall.

A 2008 first-round pick.

BILL WATTERS

Former Maple Leafs assistant general manager.

I would trade Sundin to San Jose for ...

Ryane Clowe, LW, 25 years old. In 11 games, has 3 goals and 3 assists.

Nick Petrecki, D, 18 years old. Was the 28th pick in the 2007 draft, the second of San Jose's two first-round picks.

First and second-round pick, 2008.

BRIAN LAWTON

A former first overall pick and longtime player agent, Lawton is looking for work as an NHL GM.

I would trade Sundin to Anaheim for ...

Drew Miller, LW. 23 years old. In 25 games, has 2 goals and 3 assists.

Anaheim's first-round pick in 2009.

Anaheim's first-round pick in 2008 (acquired from Edmonton) or Bobby Ryan, C. 20 years old. In 13 games, he has 3 goals, 2 assists.

GORD STELLICK

GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs from April 1988 until August 1989.

I would trade Sundin to Vancouver for ...

Mason Raymond, LW. 22 years old. In 20 games, has 3 goals, 6 assists.

Cory Schneider, G. 21 years old. Vancouver's first-round pick, 26th, in 2004. Taylor Ellington, D. 19 years old. Vancouver's second-round pick, 33rd overall, in 2007.

CRAIG BUTTON

Former Calgary Flames GM.

I would trade Sundin to Calgary for ...

Matthew Lombardi, C. 18 years old. In 43 games, has 9 goals, 12 assists.

Mikael Backlund, C. 18 years old. Calgary's first-round pick, 24th overall, in 2007.

Dustin Boyd, C. 21 years old. In 19 games, has 3 goals, 2 assists.

Two first-round picks in the next three years

[Griff83]

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Im sorry but I wouldnt call a possible #1, #2 or #3 overall pick a longshot draft pick. I dont see why Anaheim would trade Edmontons pick seeing it has a very realistic chance at getting them one of Stamkos, Doughty or Pietrangelo for a rental player, if when its Mats Sundin. If they make that trade and dont win the cup it will look like a horrendous trade down the road.

[MAS]

Basically, I would look at any playoff contending team in the West aside from Dallas because they all have good young talent that we can use. If we trade him east then you make that team over pay for him. ESPECIALLY if it's Montreal or Ottawa.

But the teams I'd especially be looking at are Anaheim and San Jose

[Tor-Rap-Tor]

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Im sorry but I wouldnt call a possible #1, #2 or #3 overall pick a longshot draft pick. I dont see why Anaheim would trade Edmontons pick seeing it has a very realistic chance at getting them one of Stamkos, Doughty or Pietrangelo for a rental player, if when its Mats Sundin. If they make that trade and dont win the cup it will look like a horrendous trade down the road.

I agree but when your talking, say Detroits 1st, that is going to be a longshot, as they are maybe top team and will choose last in the first round unless you get very good players and prospects that choice is almost non existant more like a second rounder...

Bobby Ryan and Edmonton's first, that is a different matter.
Ryan is already an elite player and as it stands now Edmonton's first would be a lottery pick, that to me is a good trade but others in the list I posted like...

MIKE MILBURY

Former New York Islanders GM

I would trade Sundin to New Jersey for ...

Nicklas Bergfors, RW. 20 years old. New Jersey's first-round pick, 23rd overall, in 2005, 2008 first-round draft pick..

This scenario contain a good prospect and a 1st but Bergfors is not even close to Ryan as a prospect and the Devil's 1st as it stands will be between 23-29 not a lottery pick at all (so a longshot)...

[Crowned]

I think the Pittsburgh proposal is a bit out there. There's no way the Leafs would recieve Jordan Staal, Angelo Esposito and a first for Sundin.

[risktaker91]

Trade Mats now before he goes in a slump like last year and loses all value he had in the first place. I like any of the deals mentioned in this thread.

[Crowned]

At this point, I'd be satisfied with a first rounder for Sundin. I'd much rather get something, than nothing. I have a funny feeling that you'll see Sundin in a Leaf uniform on our last game of the season, and we'll get nothing in value for him.

[kelso]

Mike Milbury was misquoted. If he was making the deal, it would be to the Islanders for 4 guys he would immediately deal to someone else for a aging forward who could help for the stretch run. then he'd take his first round pick this year and swap it to someone else for their pick, just for **** and giggles, then he'd think of something else stupid and useless to do.

[bryant08]

Burke won't give up that Edmonton 1st IMO. But hey, I'll take Staal+1st from Pitts for Sundin

I truly think that JFJ can fight and argue and even come close to trying to incorporate Staal in a deal from Pittsburgh, because of his terrible season so far. But I do like to dream occassionally, and I'm not sure Pittsburgh would really want Sundin, but my o my:

Malkin-Sundin-Crosby

[BringBackPopeye]

from a senator fan's perspective I really can't see them dealing any of the defensemen away, if they traded meszaros in the package for sundin, it would leave them with luke richardson and shubert playing heavy minutes and leaves them with nothing as a backup in case of injury. That is unless they thought brian lee was ready for the big times after half a year of pro hockey or they had a lot of faith in nycholat.

that and I can't for the life of me seeing the leafs trading their captain to ottawa, that would be surreal