[Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50

[moocow007]

i wasnt aware carmelo has said himself to the public he is coming to NY regardless

whatever a "analyst" writes or tweet is still the same as b4: speculation

This one's for you Pharmcat :

Carmelo Anthony's "ultimate dream" would be to play in New York, the Denver Nuggets forward said Friday in an interview with ESPN's Colleen Dominguez.

Anthony and his wife, LaLa Vazquez, are from the area.

"That's like the ultimate dream at the end of the day," Anthony said. "Who wouldn't want to go back home to play?"

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/ ... id=6023180

Thinking of those still in denial (i.e. most Denver fans and pharmcat): It was an actor in disguise pretending to be Melo.

[Pharmcat]

i wasnt aware carmelo has said himself to the public he is coming to NY regardless

whatever a "analyst" writes or tweet is still the same as b4: speculation

This one's for you Pharmcat :

Carmelo Anthony's "ultimate dream" would be to play in New York, the Denver Nuggets forward said Friday in an interview with ESPN's Colleen Dominguez.

Anthony and his wife, LaLa Vazquez, are from the area.

"That's like the ultimate dream at the end of the day," Anthony said. "Who wouldn't want to go back home to play?"

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/ ... id=6023180

Thinking of those still in denial (i.e. most Denver fans and pharmcat): It was an actor in disguise pretending to be Melo.

so what was lebron when he told larry king cle has an advantage over others when it comes to signing him??


was that a actor too?

[moocow007]

I guess now Chris Broussard has legit sources...?

For the haters, he used to be but not anymore. For Knick fans, he wasn't but he is now.

[Justdatdude]

Afflalo is better than Fields and Fields is a great hustle player and high IQ player. That's it. He won Rookie Of The Month because John Wall kept getting hurt. I like the kid, but you have to be realistic. Does anyone see Fields turning into a star? Why should the Nuggets be willing to trade us Melo just for Fields?

Sometimes taking nothing is better than getting something. Fields and Gallo serve no purpose on the Nuggets. That's reality. Chandler could serve purpose, but with him looking at a contract extension, why would they trade for him? They would be better off trying to get 2 first round picks at the end of the year or just seeing where they finish and try to make moves to better their franchise.

I dont understand though if Denver doesnt like the Knicks peices why dont they just say what they are looking for? Give the KNicks a list of players and an idea of what type of package they are looking for in order to let Melo go. Gallo, Fields, Chandler, Curry, AR these guys can all be used to get us the peices that Denver covets or at least things that they can work with. In this case something is better than nothing. If you have to take Gallo and fields or nothing you take Gallo and fields becaue they have value. Flip them later for picks or whatever your heart desires.

If the Knicks were able to get the pieces that Denver desires, don't you think a trade would've been done by now? A team had the pieces that Denver desired and that trade fell through with the Nets. The Nuggets want picks and a young player they can possibly build around. The Knicks aren't helping the Nuggets find that type of player because no player of that sort is worth giving up for our young assets. The main piece Denver receives must come from the Knicks because that is the team landing Carmelo. That is why a deal with the Knicks is so complicated.

[Justdatdude]

I guess now Chris Broussard has legit sources...?

For the haters, he used to be but not anymore. For Knick fans, he wasn't but he is now.

Your posts make to much sense. Haha.

[moocow007]

This one's for you Pharmcat :

Carmelo Anthony's "ultimate dream" would be to play in New York, the Denver Nuggets forward said Friday in an interview with ESPN's Colleen Dominguez.

Anthony and his wife, LaLa Vazquez, are from the area.

"That's like the ultimate dream at the end of the day," Anthony said. "Who wouldn't want to go back home to play?"

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/ ... id=6023180

Thinking of those still in denial (i.e. most Denver fans and pharmcat): It was an actor in disguise pretending to be Melo.

so what was lebron when he told larry king cle has an advantage over others when it comes to signing him??


was that a actor too?

No, he was actually lying cause he was still in Cleveland AND needed to keep up the charade or risk tampering and blowing his "decision"? If Carmelo was to follow Lebron, he would have said "I'm in Denver and that's where I expet to be cause that's where I've always been." So what again is the similarities between this and Lebron again?

Dude...if you still believe that Carmelo Anthony doesn't want to be here desperately then by all means keep doing so.

[AllanHoustonFan]

so what was lebron when he told larry king cle has an advantage over others when it comes to signing him??


was that a actor too?

Melo said he is not going to handle this situation like LeBron. LeBron knew what he wanted to do for the longest time and every Melo related article always sites NY is his preferred destination. Stop being so paranoid when the writing is on the wall.

[Houston99]

i think the best way this trade need to be done is three way.

[moocow007]

Afflalo is better than Fields and Fields is a great hustle player and high IQ player. That's it. He won Rookie Of The Month because John Wall kept getting hurt. I like the kid, but you have to be realistic. Does anyone see Fields turning into a star? Why should the Nuggets be willing to trade us Melo just for Fields?

Sometimes taking nothing is better than getting something. Fields and Gallo serve no purpose on the Nuggets. That's reality. Chandler could serve purpose, but with him looking at a contract extension, why would they trade for him? They would be better off trying to get 2 first round picks at the end of the year or just seeing where they finish and try to make moves to better their franchise.

I dont understand though if Denver doesnt like the Knicks peices why dont they just say what they are looking for? Give the KNicks a list of players and an idea of what type of package they are looking for in order to let Melo go. Gallo, Fields, Chandler, Curry, AR these guys can all be used to get us the peices that Denver covets or at least things that they can work with. In this case something is better than nothing. If you have to take Gallo and fields or nothing you take Gallo and fields becaue they have value. Flip them later for picks or whatever your heart desires.

If the Knicks were able to get the pieces that Denver desires, don't you think a trade would've been done by now? A team had the pieces that Denver desired and that trade fell through with the Nets. The Nuggets want picks and a young player they can possibly build around. The Knicks aren't helping the Nuggets find that type of player because no player of that sort is worth giving up for our young assets. The main piece Denver receives must come from the Knicks because that is the team landing Carmelo. That is why a deal with the Knicks is so complicated.

HOnestly, I think there are parts incompetence and bitterness going on here on the part of the Nuggets.

I think they really do not want to make it seem like they are bowing to Melo's wishes (and without getting equal value something that is IMPOSSIBLE to get from any team...even the Nets had they still been in it they just don't want to move him to NY).

And then I'm not really sure that they know what they want. As evidenced by the back and forth silliness that has gone on so far where they've pissed off about half a dozen teams, I think there's a lot of wheel spinning going on.

A vindictive new man in charge (Junior Kroenke) and an inexperienced GM (Ujiri) have been put into basically a no-win situation and they are floundering like a drowing man.

[Knick4Real]

Get Melo and keep Fields? Do the deal Donnie!

THIS!

[Justdatdude]

This is how I view Carmelo on New York.

Carmelo called playing in New York, not for the Nets or Knicks, but playing in New York would be the ultimate dream. We've seen how the Nets thing fell through and we all read how Bernard King was his favorite player growing up. All signs point to him wanting to play for the Knicks.

He also stated that all players would love to go back home and play, but it doesn't always happen. That means don't mark him down for the Knicks just yet. He would love to come back here, but it doesn't mean he will come back here.

Another big thing he stated was winning will be a key factor. That means whatever team he can possibly join that will give him the best chance of winning, will most likely be a team he goes to.

I personally feel the choices are between Denver and New York. Denver is a good team and there is still a possibility that they can make a trade that would put them in a better position then they are now and probably will convince Carmelo to stay. So we'll see how that goes.

This Carmelo wanting New York thing is nothing new though. I remember Stephen A asking him a question about playing in NY on his Quite Frankly show that aired on ESPN and I believe Carmelo said he would love to come back here.

[Jmonty580]

If the Knicks were able to get the pieces that Denver desires, don't you think a trade would've been done by now? A team had the pieces that Denver desired and that trade fell through with the Nets. The Nuggets want picks and a young player they can possibly build around. The Knicks aren't helping the Nuggets find that type of player because no player of that sort is worth giving up for our young assets. The main piece Denver receives must come from the Knicks because that is the team landing Carmelo. That is why a deal with the Knicks is so complicated.

Beggers cant be choosers right? At some point Denver has to wake up and say Melo wants NY and he'll do whatever to get there. Now we can do a few things. We can take whatever the Knicks give us. We can bargain and try to get from them what we want. We can tell them we want these players, try and get them for us with your assets. They have to get creative and work with the Knicks. At the end of the day, they dont like Gallo, Will, Fields, AR, whatever, then we can say we'll get a bunch of picks for you, will that suffice? Again beggers cant be choosers, I believe the knicks are willing to work with them to get them something that can live with, getting Melo now is beneficial to the Knicks too. At the same time, we cant make something happen if Denver is just bitter. you wanted Favors? well guess what that deal isnt there anymore, and the Nets arent going to take our peices for favors so that we can turn around and give him to Denver and get Melo. It reality, you cant always get what you want.

I got a new car 4 years ago. I really wanted a Caddy CTS-V, but all i was ok with in my price range was a jeep patriot. Guess what? Driving in my patriot isnt as good as a CTS-V, but I do like not having to walk. I didnt sit and sulk becaue I couldnt get what I wanted. Denver isnt entitled to anything, they'll be lucky if they dont lose Melo for nothing.

[Justdatdude]

HOnestly, I think there are parts incompetence and bitterness going on here on the part of the Nuggets.

I think they really do not want to make it seem like they are bowing to Melo's wishes (and without getting equal value something that is IMPOSSIBLE to get from any team...even the Nets had they still been in it they just don't want to move him to NY).

And then I'm not really sure that they know what they want. As evidenced by the back and forth silliness that has gone on so far where they've pissed off about half a dozen teams, I think there's a lot of wheel spinning going on.

A vindictive new man in charge (Junior Kroenke) and an inexperienced GM (Ujiri) have been put into basically a no-win situation and they are floundering like a drowing man.

I agree with everything you said, but the point remains...What can New York possibly offer that will keep Ujiri his job? He's an inexperienced GM going into a situation where there is no way they come out as winners. So what can he possibly do? The wrong deal is getting him fired and he won't see another job for a longtime.

[MeloUpInNYC]

Lettuce be reality, the Nuggets would probably be better off just taking nothing and completely starting over than taking taking back Chandler or Gallo and putting them closer to no man's land. A 2012 team of Billups, AA, Galo/Chandler, PF(??), Nene probably is closer to an 8th seed in the West than it is to a top 5 lottery pick. They have said themselves, they are looking to rebuild. It might actually be better for both team to not work out a trade.

[Justdatdude]

so what was lebron when he told larry king cle has an advantage over others when it comes to signing him??


was that a actor too?

Melo said he is not going to handle this situation like LeBron. LeBron knew what he wanted to do for the longest time and every Melo related article always sites NY is his preferred destination. Stop being so paranoid when the writing is on the wall.

Melo said he isn't going to handle it like Lebron as in he wasn't going to have an ESPN special and all that other stuff. Every article we read had Lebron coming to the Knicks or staying with the Cavs. The Heat possibility wasn't even thought of until SAS put his job on the line.

[knicks82023]

Wizards supposedly want to trade Blatche right? (came out after his fight with McGee)


Den Rec: Blatche, Curry, Mason, Rautins, Walker, 1st rounder (from trading AR), 2nd rounder

NY Rec: Carmelo, Harrington

Was Rec: Chandler, Azabuike


Den- Gets a good young big on a long but reasonable contract. Save a ton of cash and get rid of Harrington's contract and get a 1st rounder

NY: Get Carmelo and still have fields and gallo around

Was saves a ton of cash and can re-sign Chandler if they like him. He's an upgrade at SF for them.

[Context]

Afflalo is better than Fields and Fields is a great hustle player and high IQ player. That's it. He won Rookie Of The Month because John Wall kept getting hurt. I like the kid, but you have to be realistic. Does anyone see Fields turning into a star? Why should the Nuggets be willing to trade us Melo just for Fields?

Sometimes taking nothing is better than getting something. Fields and Gallo serve no purpose on the Nuggets. That's reality. Chandler could serve purpose, but with him looking at a contract extension, why would they trade for him? They would be better off trying to get 2 first round picks at the end of the year or just seeing where they finish and try to make moves to better their franchise.

I dont understand though if Denver doesnt like the Knicks peices why dont they just say what they are looking for? Give the KNicks a list of players and an idea of what type of package they are looking for in order to let Melo go. Gallo, Fields, Chandler, Curry, AR these guys can all be used to get us the peices that Denver covets or at least things that they can work with. In this case something is better than nothing. If you have to take Gallo and fields or nothing you take Gallo and fields becaue they have value. Flip them later for picks or whatever your heart desires.

For one, I think that Denver is weighing the value of making the play-offs vs what they can receive in a pre-deadline trade from the Knicks. Two, I think Donnie is as high on Gallo as I am and doesn't have him on the table.

[AllanHoustonFan]

so what was lebron when he told larry king cle has an advantage over others when it comes to signing him??


was that a actor too?

Melo said he is not going to handle this situation like LeBron. LeBron knew what he wanted to do for the longest time and every Melo related article always sites NY is his preferred destination. Stop being so paranoid when the writing is on the wall.

Melo said he isn't going to handle it like Lebron as in he wasn't going to have an ESPN special and all that other stuff. Every article we read had Lebron coming to the Knicks or staying with the Cavs. The Heat possibility wasn't even thought of until SAS put his job on the line.

The Lebron coming to NY was all speculation whereas it is known Melo wants NY because his camp is leaking these stories. That's the difference. All Lebron did was cock tease the Knicks saying how awesome MSG was which everyone made the assumption that he wanted NY if not Cleveland. That is the difference between the two.

[smw6230]

Lettuce be reality, the Nuggets would probably be better off just taking nothing and completely starting over than taking taking back Chandler or Gallo and putting them closer to no man's land. A 2012 team of Billups, AA, Galo/Chandler, PF(??), Nene probably is closer to an 8th seed in the West than it is to a top 5 lottery pick. They have said themselves, they are looking to rebuild. It might actually be better for both team to not work out a trade.

The reality is that politically Denver can't do that. How do they explain that to their ticket holders?

After Anthony served notice that he wouldn't resign they simply can't allow a top 10 talent, in a game that's all about talent, to walk away and get nothing in return. Their FO would get killed by their fans, the NBA establishment, and those who cover the league in the media.

Also I reject the premise that the Knicks assets are completely worthless. You're telling me that Denver can't get even a 1st for Gallo? You're telling me that they'd rather have an end of the 1st or possibly 2nd round pick than him?

Come' on.

[ophdog]

At the end ofthe day get me melo and leave me with one of gallo,fields, or chandler and we got a nice core.