Trade Idea Thread

[TheKingLivesOn]

We certainly wouldn't trade a first round pick in a trade that would send Kaman out for Wallace.

That deal is way too good for Cleveland and I doubt you would get Wallace for only that TPE anyways.

Why would it matter to you what the Clippers or Cavaliers are getting? From OKC's perspective, they give up a 1st and a project center to get a borderline All-Star center in his 20's that fills a major positional need. Your core remains intact and you are instant contenders. Yes, it is really good for Cleveland but thats what good trades are.. ones where everybody wins.

Secondly, Charlotte was the one that approached Cleveland about taking on Wallace for the TPE but Cleveland held out for an additional first. So it is entirely within the realm of possibility that a Wallace to Cleveland trade go down provided the cavs can secure this following trade..

[Det the Threat]

We certainly wouldn't trade a first round pick in a trade that would send Kaman out for Wallace.

That deal is way too good for Cleveland and I doubt you would get Wallace for only that TPE anyways.

Why would it matter to you what the Clippers or Cavaliers are getting? From OKC's perspective, they give up a 1st and a project center to get a borderline All-Star center in his 20's that fills a major positional need. Your core remains intact and you are instant contenders. Yes, it is really good for Cleveland but thats what good trades are.. ones where everybody wins.

Secondly, Charlotte was the one that approached Cleveland about taking on Wallace for the TPE but Cleveland held out for an additional first. So it is entirely within the realm of possibility that a Wallace to Cleveland trade go down provided the cavs can secure this following trade..

Because I'm a Clippers supporter and we wouldn't give up a future first rounder on top of that.
I'd be hesitant to do a Kaman for Wallace swap and certainly wouldn't give a future first away as well.

[TheKingLivesOn]

We certainly wouldn't trade a first round pick in a trade that would send Kaman out for Wallace.

That deal is way too good for Cleveland and I doubt you would get Wallace for only that TPE anyways.

Why would it matter to you what the Clippers or Cavaliers are getting? From OKC's perspective, they give up a 1st and a project center to get a borderline All-Star center in his 20's that fills a major positional need. Your core remains intact and you are instant contenders. Yes, it is really good for Cleveland but thats what good trades are.. ones where everybody wins.

Secondly, Charlotte was the one that approached Cleveland about taking on Wallace for the TPE but Cleveland held out for an additional first. So it is entirely within the realm of possibility that a Wallace to Cleveland trade go down provided the cavs can secure this following trade..

Because I'm a Clippers supporter and we wouldn't give up a future first rounder on top of that.
I'd be hesitant to do a Kaman for Wallace swap and certainly wouldn't give a future first away as well.

Kaman for Wallace is essentially a wash given their potentials/injury history (although Wallace has been quite healthy the past 2 seasons and this one)/contracts, etc. Then, you guys trade a first rounder in 2018 (which doesnt have much value considering the Clips are on the rise) for 2 valuable second rounders in the immediate future and $6 Million in instant cash! Pretty fair trade if you ask me considering how well DeAndre Jordan is playing. A core of Griffin, Wallace, Gordon, Jordan, Bledsoe, and Aminu going forward looks very dangerous. Plus, you guys also have the Minny 1st Rounder.

[Det the Threat]

Kaman for Wallace is essentially a wash given their potentials/injury history (although Wallace has been quite healthy the past 2 seasons and this one)/contracts, etc. Then, you guys trade a first rounder in 2018 (which doesnt have much value considering the Clips are on the rise) for 2 valuable second rounders in the immediate future and $6 Million in instant cash! Pretty fair trade if you ask me considering how well DeAndre Jordan is playing. A core of Griffin, Wallace, Gordon, Jordan, Bledsoe, and Aminu going forward looks very dangerous. Plus, you guys also have the Minny 1st Rounder.

Look, you're basing this one on Charlotte giving you Wallace(and maybe something else) for just that TPE, which won't happen IMO.

And even if they're shopping Wallace, they's certainly rather just cut out you guys and OKC to get their hands on Kaman themselves.

Even if you would get Wallace, we just wouldn't give away a first round pick on top of Kaman, no matter how much we're "rising" and what not, because 2018 is a long time away and we certainly wouldn't deal another first rounder, owing one to OKC already.

[Rondo2Hondo]

DeAndre Jordan (S&T) + Butler for Wilson Chandler (S&T) in the offseason, would be pretty good for both teams.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

DeAndre Jordan (S&T) + Butler for Wilson Chandler (S&T) in the offseason, would be pretty good for both teams.

We're not interested in trading DeAndre Jordan, the sign and trade would only happen if he wants to leave. I'm not sure DJ would want to leave his buddy Blake Griffin.

[old rem]

Kaman for Wallace is essentially a wash given their potentials/injury history (although Wallace has been quite healthy the past 2 seasons and this one)/contracts, etc. Then, you guys trade a first rounder in 2018 (which doesnt have much value considering the Clips are on the rise) for 2 valuable second rounders in the immediate future and $6 Million in instant cash! Pretty fair trade if you ask me considering how well DeAndre Jordan is playing. A core of Griffin, Wallace, Gordon, Jordan, Bledsoe, and Aminu going forward looks very dangerous. Plus, you guys also have the Minny 1st Rounder.

Look, you're basing this one on Charlotte giving you Wallace(and maybe something else) for just that TPE, which won't happen IMO.

And even if they're shopping Wallace, they's certainly rather just cut out you guys and OKC to get their hands on Kaman themselves.

Even if you would get Wallace, we just wouldn't give away a first round pick on top of Kaman, no matter how much we're "rising" and what not, because 2018 is a long time away and we certainly wouldn't deal another first rounder, owing one to OKC already.

Of COURSE.

With (allegedly) the Nets willing to wipe out their roster and future to pay MAX $ to Melo....how is G Wallace...who also plays DEFENSE...and is 1/2 the $...a giveawy? Uh...like the Cavs are the only team who paid the phone bill? " I'm sorry but that number is no longer in service...."

Hell 25 teams would happily take the guy for free...and most would include some assets. Sadly.....Cav's fans are WAY off in Neverland.

[TheKingLivesOn]

Kaman for Wallace is essentially a wash given their potentials/injury history (although Wallace has been quite healthy the past 2 seasons and this one)/contracts, etc. Then, you guys trade a first rounder in 2018 (which doesnt have much value considering the Clips are on the rise) for 2 valuable second rounders in the immediate future and $6 Million in instant cash! Pretty fair trade if you ask me considering how well DeAndre Jordan is playing. A core of Griffin, Wallace, Gordon, Jordan, Bledsoe, and Aminu going forward looks very dangerous. Plus, you guys also have the Minny 1st Rounder.

Look, you're basing this one on Charlotte giving you Wallace(and maybe something else) for just that TPE, which won't happen IMO.

And even if they're shopping Wallace, they's certainly rather just cut out you guys and OKC to get their hands on Kaman themselves.

Even if you would get Wallace, we just wouldn't give away a first round pick on top of Kaman, no matter how much we're "rising" and what not, because 2018 is a long time away and we certainly wouldn't deal another first rounder, owing one to OKC already.

Of COURSE.

With (allegedly) the Nets willing to wipe out their roster and future to pay MAX $ to Melo....how is G Wallace...who also plays DEFENSE...and is 1/2 the $...a giveawy? Uh...like the Cavs are the only team who paid the phone bill? " I'm sorry but that number is no longer in service...."

Hell 25 teams would happily take the guy for free...and most would include some assets. Sadly.....Cav's fans are WAY off in Neverland.

Sadly, you havent been following basketball for the past week. It is true that many teams would love to acquire Gerald Wallace for free. However, it is also true that no other team (other than the Raptors) possess a single trade exception large enough to absorb Gerald Wallace's contract. Secondly, the Bobcats were the team that contacted the cavaliers about absorbing Wallace straight up for the exception. The reason that the deal did not go through was because of the cavalier's insistance that an extra pick be attached (which i dont condone but its worth playing hardball with a franchise in dire need to shed salary. If the bobcats are persistent that they will not attach a pick then the cavs just do the straight up trade a week before the deadline and then trade him away again for assets) Its not cavs fans that are in neverland.. Its anyone that doesnt believe Charlotte is serious about trading Wallace for the exception.

[Indy2thaWindy]

I thought Charlotte said they're not trading Wallace.

[clippermitch]

If Clips want to make a run, gotta improve the perimeter D. We need a young Bruce Bowen that can play lockdown D and hit open 3s.

The closest player out there in this mold is Battier and Prince. So we should trade Kaman for either one of these guys. They are both expiring. If it doesn't work out, we free up cap space to resign DJ and make a run at a legit starting C.

[scoobs07]

What about a three way trade?
Clippers get: Granger/Mo Evans
Hawks: Kaman/ Aminu
Pacers: Josh Smith/ 2012 Minisota 1st rd pick

Clippers get 3rd scorer in Granger ,
Evans is filler.
Hawks get a starting center and a small forward that could shoot and happens to be from Atlanta.
Pacers get a power forward that would pair good with HIbbert and be lethal in Pacers running style with Collison. Pacers also get a very good draft pick.

[Det the Threat]

What about a three way trade?
Clippers get: Granger/Mo Evans
Hawks: Kaman/ Aminu
Pacers: Josh Smith/ 2012 Minisota 1st rd pick

Clippers get 3rd scorer in Granger ,
Evans is filler.
Hawks get a starting center and a small forward that could shoot and happens to be from Atlanta.
Pacers get a power forward that would pair good with HIbbert and be lethal in Pacers running style with Collison. Pacers also get a very good draft pick.

Make it our own pick in 2011 and we could have a deal.

Not trading that Minny pick before we somehow close to know what kind of a pick it will be.

[scoobs07]

That might work. Pacers still get a lot of value for Granger. They get a power forward, which is exactly what they are looking for and they get a pick that will be in the 14-18 range ( I'm being optimistic here). In this scenario, i think we will have to take on some salary from Indy to sweeten it for them. We could take back Foster's 6.5 million expiring for Butler's 2.2 million expiring. That saves the Pacers an extra 8.6 million this season.

[clippermitch]

Kaman/aminu/minny's pick is prob enough to get Melo. Granger is hood but not that good.

I'd rather just take out Indy and do Kaman/Aminu for Josh Smith and Evans. Josh can play the defensive SF and he's improved his 3 ball too.

[scoobs07]

Kaman/aminu/minny's pick is prob enough to get Melo. Granger is hood but not that good.

I'd rather just take out Indy and do Kaman/Aminu for Josh Smith and Evans. Josh can play the defensive SF and he's improved his 3 ball too.

Well Smith could also be used as the back up power forward as well. That would be a freaky athletic line up. However, IMO our biggest need is perimeter shooting. I would do it if we could maybe get Caspi and Garcia from sac for Butler and Smith, because it would really hurt to loose Aminu's shooting. That's what is intriguing about Granger.

[colors]

Hey Pistons fan here. We're not particularly interested in a straight up Kaman for Prince trade, we would need some incentive to do it.

I guess a 1st round pick coming our way is out of the question, so two kinds of things would be interesting for us :
_Get rid of Will Bynum and/or Maxiell (also maybe Villanueva).
_Get some prospects back. Obviously you wouldn't give us Jordan, but how about Bledsoe or Aminu ?

We also could consider trading Stuckey, and Wilcox (expiring) could be used as filler without problem. And personnally I wouldn't mind including Gomes (and of course your small expirings too). But no Baron unless you want to talk about a Rip Hamilton trade.


Starting from this, a number of trades could work (several were proposed on the Pistons board), which one would look ok to you ?

[SportsFan215]

We don't need to add any incentive, since we wouldn't even do that deal straight up. We could easily sign Prince as a FA this offseason.

[scoobs07]

I think it is imperative now that we go for Granger, since EJs hand is messed up, it would be nice to have another guy capable of getting 25 points per night in Granger. How about this big 3:
EJ 23 ppg/ 38 % threes
Griffin 23 ppg/ 13 rpg/ 4 apt
Granger 17 ppg/ 6 rpg/ 38% threea
THE KILLER Gs!

[SportsFan215]

I think it is imperative now that we go for Granger, since EJs hand is messed up, it would be nice to have another guy capable of getting 25 points per night in Granger. How about this big 3:
EJ 23 ppg/ 38 % threes
Griffin 23 ppg/ 13 rpg/ 4 apt
Granger 17 ppg/ 6 rpg/ 38% threea
THE KILLER Gs!

I wouldn't mind that, but I still would not give up the MIN first from him.

[Det the Threat]

Kaman/aminu/minny's pick is prob enough to get Melo. Granger is hood but not that good.

I'd rather just take out Indy and do Kaman/Aminu for Josh Smith and Evans. Josh can play the defensive SF and he's improved his 3 ball too.

No he can't as he's a power forward and not a small forward in this league.

His inability to do so is the main reason why the Hawks have to play Horford out of position at center and why some folks believe that they'd move Smith(for the right package) so they can play Horford at his natural position, which is power forward.

Though, in trading for him we'd have the same problem, cause we'd have to bench DJ and play Griffin out of position at center.
And that's something we shouldn't ever consider.

Hey Pistons fan here. We're not particularly interested in a straight up Kaman for Prince trade, we would need some incentive to do it.

I guess a 1st round pick coming our way is out of the question, so two kinds of things would be interesting for us :
_Get rid of Will Bynum and/or Maxiell (also maybe Villanueva).
_Get some prospects back. Obviously you wouldn't give us Jordan, but how about Bledsoe or Aminu ?

We also could consider trading Stuckey, and Wilcox (expiring) could be used as filler without problem. And personnally I wouldn't mind including Gomes (and of course your small expirings too). But no Baron unless you want to talk about a Rip Hamilton trade.


Starting from this, a number of trades could work (several were proposed on the Pistons board), which one would look ok to you ?

There's no reason for the Clippers to add any incentive on top of Kaman, if it's just for Prince.
Prince could(and probably would) leave anyways in the summer and we aren't interested in a salary dump of Kaman's contract.
And if Prince were to be interested in playing for the Clippers we could just sign him this summer.

All things considered, we probably aren't even interested all that much in a Kaman for Prince straight up deal, and certainly would not add anything on top of it for reasons mentioned above.

I think it is imperative now that we go for Granger, since EJs hand is messed up, it would be nice to have another guy capable of getting 25 points per night in Granger. How about this big 3:
EJ 23 ppg/ 38 % threes
Griffin 23 ppg/ 13 rpg/ 4 apt
Granger 17 ppg/ 6 rpg/ 38% threea
THE KILLER Gs!

Granger would be good, but he certainly would cost us quite some assets and I'm not sure if a volume scorer at sf is really what we need.

Of course Gomes isn't great and Aminu's still very young, but I think our main problem isn't the small forward position.
To me what we really need is a scorer off the bench(a combo guard or sg/sf) that allows us to rest EJ and Griffin, while we still can keep our leads.
So a Jamal Crawford, Jason Terry or even JR Smith kind of player would do wonders for us. IMO.

Though I'm not saying we should trade for them(makes no sense, as two are FA's at the end of the year and the other guy's playing in Dallas), but should look to add guys with such talents either throug the draft(maybe Brandon Knight of Kentucky?) or free agency.