Kings' players trade value: Who stays.. who goes..

kingsthings · Post #1 » by **kingsthings** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:49 pm

Midseason Sacramento Kings trade value report. We tell you who should stay and who should go. http://kingstalkingpoints.blogspot.com

RoyalCourtJestr · Post #2 » by **RoyalCourtJestr** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:52 pm

Stopped reading as soon as I saw the words "trade" and "Tyreke" on the same line.

YC42Balla · Post #3 » by **YC42Balla** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:02 pm

The guy's an idiot, Plain and simple.

I'd rather trade him (Tyreke) for a young, talented point guard and a first-round pick.

Why would you trade Tyreke for a draft pick in a potentially weak draft? :eek1:

RoyalCourtJestr · Post #4 » by **RoyalCourtJestr** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:06 pm

Who is the young talented PG? At least name a couple possibilities if you're shipping out a star.

Giving up on Tyreke this early is completely illogical.

kingsthings · Post #5 » by **kingsthings** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:49 am

Aaron Brooks, Ty Lawson, Eric Maynor, Kyle Lowry, Dragic, maybe George Hill, to name a few... lots of point guards ready to take their games to the next level.
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kingsthings · Post #6 » by **kingsthings** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:53 am

Lightning Strike wrote:Who is the young talented PG? At least name a couple possibilities if you're shipping out a star.

Giving up on Tyreke this early is completely illogical.

Didn't say give up on Tyreke. It was only if you got a great offer. Just don't think you win with Tyreke as the focus of your offense.

rpa · Post #7 » by **rpa** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:40 am

kingsthings wrote:Didn't say give up on Tyreke. It was only if you got a great offer. Just don't think you win with Tyreke as the focus of your offense.

kingsthings wrote:Aaron Brooks, Ty Lawson, Eric Maynor, Kyle Lowry, Dragic, maybe George Hill, to name a few

"Fail" doesn't even begin to describe the above.

kingsthings · Post #8 » by **kingsthings** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:15 am

Actually, Fail perfectly describes the past two seasons with the Kings

OGSactownballer · Post #9 » by **OGSactownballer** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:47 am

So genius, you beliueve that trading a ROY six months removed from that campaign with obvious and documented injury issues this season and STILL is the focus of EVERY opponents defense to the tune of TRIPLE TEAMS - in other words a can't miss star for a pack of guys who wsill likely never see more than maybe one or two all-star appearances between them if lucky is a good move?

I have this great piece of beachfront desert property I'd like to sell you...

OGSactownballer · Post #10 » by **OGSactownballer** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:55 am

BTW who the hell is this Ron Wenig clown? His writing reads like a sophomore English paper that had mom up all night to re-write and edit so that it could clear a B-.

Seriously. Not to blow my own horn, but I call in REGULARLY for YEARS to every local show and some national ones and I am allowed to speak my piece for as long as I like. I am always prepared with FACTS and legitimate information. This guy is a joke.

wiltchamberlain · Post #11 » by **wiltchamberlain** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:59 am

kingsthings wrote:Midseason Sacramento Kings trade value report. We tell you who should stay and who should go. http://kingstalkingpoints.blogspot.com

Are you the guy who wrote this?

Post #12 » by **Wolfay** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:25 am

Why does this blog keep popping up on here?

longfellow44 · Post #13 » by **longfellow44** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:30 am

That is completely ridiculous. Apparently you don't understand a thing about value in the NBA.

Lets see you wrote

Tyreke for Eric Maynor and a 1st and then you said that Casspi is untouchable.

That shows a distinct lack of basketball knowledge, and a general misunderstanding of basic market principles pertaining to value.

kingsthings · Post #14 » by **kingsthings** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:00 am

OGSactownballer wrote:BTW who the hell is this Ron Wenig clown? His writing reads like a sophomore English paper that had mom up all night to re-write and edit so that it could clear a B-.

Seriously. Not to blow my own horn, but I call in REGULARLY for YEARS to every local show and some national ones and I am allowed to speak my piece for as long as I like. I am always prepared with FACTS and legitimate information. This guy is a joke.

You actually call in to radio shows? Really? My, that's impressive. Congrats. No need to blow your own horn.

By the way, Ron Wenig got a B in English, not a B-

kingsthings · Post #15 » by **kingsthings** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:02 am

longfellow44 wrote:That is completely ridiculous. Apparently you don't understand a thing about value in the NBA.

Lets see you wrote

Tyreke for Eric Maynor and a 1st and then you said that Casspi is untouchable.

That shows a distinct lack of basketball knowledge, and a general misunderstanding of basic market principles pertaining to value.

Never said that I would do that trade -- especially that trade. But Ty Lawson, Nene, and a first for Tyreke and Dalembert, then I'm listening.

kingsthings · Post #16 » by **kingsthings** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:09 am

OGSactownballer wrote:So genius, you beliueve that trading a ROY six months removed from that campaign with obvious and documented injury issues this season and STILL is the focus of EVERY opponents defense to the tune of TRIPLE TEAMS - in other words a can't miss star for a pack of guys who wsill likely never see more than maybe one or two all-star appearances between them if lucky is a good move?

I have this great piece of beachfront desert property I'd like to sell you...

By the way, Tyreke is never triple teamed or rarely double teamed. He does, however, consistently dirve into sagging defenses that are acutely aware of his tendencies. So, yes, he does end up forcing shots against two and maybe three people.

Tyreke is a very talented guy, but he is too young to have chronically bad feet and ankles and he does not have tremendous basketball IQ. I think he has a chance to be great, but I believe the Kings would be better off as a franchise with an unselfish team leader who can facilitate and help the team grow.

Just my opinion. Go ahead. Shoot the flame throwers.

longfellow44 · Post #17 » by **longfellow44** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:31 am

kingsthings wrote:
longfellow44 wrote:That is completely ridiculous. Apparently you don't understand a thing about value in the NBA.

Lets see you wrote

Tyreke for Eric Maynor and a 1st and then you said that Casspi is untouchable.

That shows a distinct lack of basketball knowledge, and a general misunderstanding of basic market principles pertaining to value.

Never said that I would do that trade -- especially that trade. But Ty Lawson, Nene, and a first for Tyreke and Dalembert, then I'm listening.

You may be listening but you shouldn't be. Tyreke is a special talent. Sure he isn't the most atheltic guy and he doesn't have the highest Bball IQ. But, the one thing that he has above all is a knack for getting to the hoop. He is a crafty player on the drive and no one can stop the guy from getting into the lane. Sure he had some Plantar fasciatis which has caused him some problems. This is a problem that many runners face, basically it's just the muscle getting inflamed. The cure for this is rest, he just needs time off and it will heal. Getting the rest that his foot needs will allow the inflamation to go down and his foot will heal, this is not a problem that has to be chronic or career damaging. The foot just needs rest and the problem will go away.

IF we are trading a guy like Tyreke the kings will need to get back a superstar, or near superstar. And there isn't anyone out there right now that is available that I would trade evans for.

SacKingZZZ · Post #18 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:51 am

kingsthings wrote:
Never said that I would do that trade -- especially that trade. But Ty Lawson, Nene, and a first for Tyreke and Dalembert, then I'm listening.

Yikes, I don't think anyone else is.

DieHardKingsFan · Post #19 » by **DieHardKingsFan** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:26 am

Wolfay wrote:Why does this blog keep popping up on here?

Agreed. This blog deserves no attention by Kings fans.

moosachi · Post #20 » by **moosachi** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:26 pm

so far ive seen nobody comment on the fact that this guy is saying casspi can turn into one of the best SF's in the league in a couple of years...