2010-11 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread

Weems · Post #601 » by **Weems** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:43 pm

I feel this will receive warranted ridicule from every direction because I don't know player value.

To Toronto: Batum, Oden -- possible Fernandez (it works with or without him in the trade checker)
To Portland: Evans, DeRozan -- possible Miami 1st

I like Batum a hell of a lot. He's less than a year older than DeMar, he's a long and athletic 6'8", and he can actually defend the perimeter. Huge upgrade there. And though he's an inconsistent shooter, he can spread the floor better than DeRozan.

Fernandez is coveted around the league even through his struggles. Oden is a RFA(?) and he might be worth a flyer. Evans could replace Camby, Pryz, etc and he's an expiring.

Rude Boy 1 · Post #602 » by **Rude Boy 1** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:10 pm

Weems wrote:I feel this will receive warranted ridicule from every direction because I don't know player value.

To Toronto: Batum, Oden -- possible Fernandez (it works with or without him in the trade checker)
To Portland: Evans, DeRozan -- possible Miami 1st

I like Batum a hell of a lot. He's less than a year older than DeMar, he's a long and athletic 6'8", and he can actually defend the perimeter. Huge upgrade there. And though he's an inconsistent shooter, he can spread the floor better than DeRozan.

Fernandez is coveted around the league even through his struggles. Oden is a RFA(?) and he might be worth a flyer. Evans could replace Camby, Pryz, etc and he's an expiring.

Rule number one when trading: Never trade a young stud for an injury prone dud. Batum is okay but still not quite sure what type of player he is... Is he a spot up shooter? is he a defender? is he an all purpose?

bboyskinnylegs · Post #603 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:18 pm

Weems wrote:I feel this will receive warranted ridicule from every direction because I don't know player value.

To Toronto: Batum, Oden -- possible Fernandez (it works with or without him in the trade checker)
To Portland: Evans, DeRozan -- possible Miami 1st

I like Batum a hell of a lot. He's less than a year older than DeMar, he's a long and athletic 6'8", and he can actually defend the perimeter. Huge upgrade there. And though he's an inconsistent shooter, he can spread the floor better than DeRozan.

Fernandez is coveted around the league even through his struggles. Oden is a RFA(?) and he might be worth a flyer. Evans could replace Camby, Pryz, etc and he's an expiring.

I'd love to get Batum to play alongside DeMar, but no way would I trade DeMar for him and Oden, who may never play a full season.

WhatsaTDot · Post #604 » by **WhatsaTDot** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:51 pm

Weems wrote:I feel this will receive warranted ridicule from every direction because I don't know player value.

To Toronto: Batum, Oden -- possible Fernandez (it works with or without him in the trade checker)
To Portland: Evans, DeRozan -- possible Miami 1st

I like Batum a hell of a lot. He's less than a year older than DeMar, he's a long and athletic 6'8", and he can actually defend the perimeter. Huge upgrade there. And though he's an inconsistent shooter, he can spread the floor better than DeRozan.

Fernandez is coveted around the league even through his struggles. Oden is a RFA(?) and he might be worth a flyer. Evans could replace Camby, Pryz, etc and he's an expiring.

I would take that gamble but I dont think Portland ever would.

Weems · Post #605 » by **Weems** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:10 am

Rude Boy 1 wrote:
Weems wrote:I feel this will receive warranted ridicule from every direction because I don't know player value.

To Toronto: Batum, Oden -- possible Fernandez (it works with or without him in the trade checker)
To Portland: Evans, DeRozan -- possible Miami 1st

I like Batum a hell of a lot. He's less than a year older than DeMar, he's a long and athletic 6'8", and he can actually defend the perimeter. Huge upgrade there. And though he's an inconsistent shooter, he can spread the floor better than DeRozan.

Fernandez is coveted around the league even through his struggles. Oden is a RFA(?) and he might be worth a flyer. Evans could replace Camby, Pryz, etc and he's an expiring.

Rule number one when trading: Never trade a young stud for an injury prone dud. Batum is okay but still not quite sure what type of player he is... Is he a spot up shooter? is he a defender? is he an all purpose?

Oden would be the throw in, not the centrepiece. Batum would be the best player in the deal (or at minimum he's not just "okay" if you label DeRozan a "young stud"). He's probably too much better of a prospect than DeRozan that this deal would constitute anything but a laugh from the Portland GM. I just wouldn't want to send our 1st rounder or Ed Davis and we have nothing else.

WhatsaTDot · Post #606 » by **WhatsaTDot** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:21 am

Well Batum is the type of player for which I'm happy to jettisson DD. He's clearly the better player in this deal. Plus theres no anti Canada stigma for him to play in a foreign country.

But Ed Davis or our unprotected 1st for Oden is a pretty steep price to pay.

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #607 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:00 am

what about this blockbuster

To TOR: Green + Udrih + Bogans
To SAC: Calderon + Watson + Dorsey + Miami 2011 1st Round Pick
To OKC: James Johnson + Carl Landry
To CHI: Barbosa

Bayless / Udrih / Gaines
Derozan / Weems / Bogans
Green / Klezia / Wright
Johnson / Davis / Ajinca
Bargnani / Evans / Alabi

WhatsaTDot · Post #608 » by **WhatsaTDot** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:03 am

Tor says yes.

SAC says **** no.

RocLaFamilia · Post #609 » by **RocLaFamilia** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:28 am

WhatsaTDot wrote:Tor says yes.

SAC says **** no.

You mean OKC says that...

OAKLEY_2 · Post #610 » by **OAKLEY_2** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:45 am

I would take that gamble but I dont think Portland ever would.

I think it is the other way around especially if you take Fernandez out of there. Oden looks to be another Hakeem and damaged at a young age. So why would MLSEL pay the guy to be in all likelihood an Eddy Curry? Derozan swaps out even with Batum (in theory) although I think the vast majority of GM's would prefer Derozan's scoring potential and upside. So then we furnish them with a first rounder for getting involved and giving them an expiring? The deal clearly favours Portland. I'd rather invest in Derozan getting better on defence and us getting a pick in an expiring Reggie package. This is a waste of time (lateral trade), money (Oden) and a pick (Miami).

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #611 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:53 am

Bayless looks to crazy for me. Not too excited about him anymore

what about.

Bayless + Dorsey for Flynn

bboyskinnylegs · Post #612 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:29 am

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:Bayless looks to crazy for me. Not too excited about him anymore

what about.

Bayless + Dorsey for Flynn

I'm pretty impartial either way... I think Flynn might look better running the break, but he's looked absolutely horrendous for Minny this year (33% from the field, 29% from 3, 69.2% from the line, 4.3pts/2.3assists in 16.5 mpg).

TDotRep · Post #613 » by **TDotRep** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:12 am

RocLaFamilia wrote:
WhatsaTDot wrote:Tor says yes.

SAC says **** no.

You mean OKC says that...

No sac says that, Okc would probably say sure.

marcwagz · Post #614 » by **marcwagz** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:54 am

Ed Davis looks like he could be a legitimate starting Power forward
But BC will want to keep bargnani.

Bargnani can't stay at C, he has to be moved to PF to cover for his defensive lapse.

So we can't keep both of these guys...

As much as I'm liking davis i think it would be wise to maybe package him with our first and maybe even miami's first to ensure we get a first overall?

anyone else think that makes sense?

edgehead411 · Post #615 » by **edgehead411** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:55 am

Moving Bargnani to PF will cover his defensive woes?

Really?

Moving Bargnani to a different team would help our defensive woes

marcwagz · Post #616 » by **marcwagz** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:56 am

edgehead411 wrote:Moving Bargnani to PF will cover his defensive woes?

Really?

Moving Bargnani to a different team would help our defensive woes

thread isn't about bargnani's defensive woes, fyi

Man of Steel · Post #617 » by **Man of Steel** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:57 am

We have a legitimately talented power forward that is defensively capable. Given time to develop, i think he could be an all-star, and a strong piece on a contender. I wouldn't package that for anyone in the upcoming draft, but maybe that's just me.

Jose_Matador · Post #618 » by **Jose_Matador** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:58 am

I would probably trade Ed Davis for Washington, Minni or New Jerseys pick ...

it would sting a little bit but IMO you go for it.

you potentially leave draft night with the top 2 prospects, that's unheard of...

Man of Steel · Post #619 » by **Man of Steel** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:59 am

Jose_Matador wrote:I would probably trade Ed Davis for Washington, Minni or New Jerseys pick ...

it would sting a little bit but IMO you go for it.

you potentially leave draft night with the top 2 prospects, that's unheard of...

Quite likely that New Jersey will be picking ahead of us by June.

Jose_Matador · Post #620 » by **Jose_Matador** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:00 am

luisnani wrote:
Jose_Matador wrote:I would probably trade Ed Davis for Washington, Minni or New Jerseys pick ...

it would sting a little bit but IMO you go for it.

you potentially leave draft night with the top 2 prospects, that's unheard of...

Quite likely that New Jersey will be picking ahead of us by June.

all the more reason.