UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22

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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#41 » by duppyy » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:17 pm

Do you guys think Hominick has a chance against Jose?
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#42 » by Cammo101 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:40 pm

YounG GunneR wrote:Do you guys think Hominick has a chance against Jose?


Hominick is a veteran and a good striker, so he has a chance. That said, I am not picking him to win.
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#43 » by CPT » Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:15 pm

Pissed off I didn't bet on Guillard. I thought he had a good chance to win, just didn't think the price was quite good enough. Dunham's chin is pretty shaky (he's shown great recuperative abilities, but he seems to get wobbled easily), and for as good as he is, I wasn't really sure about his path to victory, aside from just a general feeling that he's better, which sometimes works out, but sometimes doesn't. Now Dunham finds himself with 2 losses in a row, and pretty far removed from the title picture. Maybe he can fight Gomi (let the UFC get a bit more use out of his name), Sherk (that rematch should happen sometime), or maybe he goes further down the ladder. Guillard now is on a 4 fight win streak, and another big win may put him in a title fight. Maybe he gets Florian, Miller, or G. Sot for a title shot, or maybe he's still got some way to go, in which case maybe he fights a Matt Wiman, Mac Danzig, Yves Edwards level guy. He was supposed to fight Yves Edwards on this card, and with both winning, maybe they will make that fight if they don't have plans to push Guillard toward a title shot.

Mitrione looked pretty good. Don't think he'll fight Barry as they seem pretty tight, and at their level there should be plenty of other fights they can take. Maybe Mitrione and Madsen can rekindle their beef from TUF, though I don't really want to see Madsen fight anyone. Struve would be a good option for either Meathead or Barry.

I was a bit distracted during Barry vs. Beltran, but it seemed like a pretty good slugfest from what I saw. May watch it again.

Hominick put on a clinic vs. Roop. I was a little worried, since I saw that the fight was short, but didn't know who won. Will be good to see him get a shot vs. Aldo in Toronto, giving that card a huge boost. Don't think his chances are all that great, but he's a worthy challenger, for sure.

Wiman looked impressive vs. Miller. Really took it to him. As I mentioned before, maybe he gets a fight against Guillard for a chance to move up the ladder, or maybe he gets left behind and has to fight another middle of the pack guy. Still want to see Cole Miller fight Cowboy next; I think that would be fun.

Really glad to see Edwards choke out Cody McKenzie. That guy needs to get cut. He brings nothing to the table except a guillotine, a stupid haircut/facial hair, and a staggering amount of douchebaggery.
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#44 » by Starkiller » Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:37 pm

How much did Melvin pay out?
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#45 » by CPT » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:08 pm

Starkiller wrote:How much did Melvin pay out?


I think he was at about +180.
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#46 » by Starkiller » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:26 pm

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Starkiller wrote:How much did Melvin pay out?


I think he was at about +180.


Dammit I meant to bet on him too, that was a good bet.
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#47 » by CPT » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:30 am

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CPT wrote:
Starkiller wrote:How much did Melvin pay out?


I think he was at about +180.


Dammit I meant to bet on him too, that was a good bet.


Turns out it was.

I thought it should have been a little higher, but I guess odds really don't get that big anymore with MMA. At least not when the guy has a real chance of winning.

I probably should have just seen the value and put the money down, but my account is hurting pretty bad right now (god damn NFL playoffs).
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#48 » by Starkiller » Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:40 pm

CPT wrote:I probably should have just seen the value and put the money down, but my account is hurting pretty bad right now (god damn NFL playoffs).


Honestly, since Edgar first upset Penn I haven't seen much payoffs for underdogs anymore. Granted, he totally dominated him in the 2nd fight, but the rematch of Edgar/Penn (which a lot of people though Penn may have won the 1st fight) Edgar wasn't much of a dog in that one. Just seems these days you can't make much money off MMA anymore, could be from judging too, as bets can totally be screwed by horrible judging (Pham/Garcia)
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#49 » by Nemesis21 » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:43 am

Mike Guymon retires ,

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Joker- ... Loss-29658

Any footage of his loss to Demarques ?
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#50 » by singh_shady » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:55 am

Damn, you guys actually bet on MMA? I think I'd be more successful trying to rob a bank
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#51 » by duppyy » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:41 pm

singh_shady wrote:Damn, you guys actually bet on MMA? I think I'd be more successful trying to rob a bank


After the last PPV event I'm not betting on UFC anymore lol. To make the most money out of UFC fights you'll have to parlay.
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#52 » by Starkiller » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:33 pm

singh_shady wrote:Damn, you guys actually bet on MMA? I think I'd be more successful trying to rob a bank


Floow close enough, it's not hard. Learn matchups and think of all possible outcomes and you can make money. Honestly, I meant to put a bunch of money on Melvin cause I knew he was too much for Dunham to handle, too strong, too fast, and would decimate him on the feet. Dunham's only chance was to take him down and hold him there and lay and pray or get a sub, but Melvin is too hard to keep down for someone of Dunham's talents.

So know which ''dogs'' aren't really ''dogs'' and parlay w/ clear cut favorites and you can make money, or bet against big hype and you can make cheese (Cain over Brock, or until he f'd it up, Chael over Silva)
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#53 » by Nemesis21 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:48 pm

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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#54 » by CPT » Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:47 am

I think parlays are a bad idea. In any sport really, but especially in something as hard to predict as MMA. Nothing is worse than making a good pick on a big underdog that comes through and then losing your bet because somebody gets KO'd.

Betting on favourites in general is a bad idea, IMO. The payout isn't good enough when you consider the likelihood of an upset.

Just pick the dogs (or even slight favourites) you think have a good chance at winning, and if you are any good at it, you should make money.*

*I'm not very good at it.
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#55 » by cowboyronnie » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:45 pm

Believe in Hominick. That's going to be an amazing fight against Aldo. MT doesn't teach much counter-striking or even evasion - it's walk forward and clash. So a MT stylist like Aldo up against someone from a more well-rounded striking background like Mark could really be interesting. Mark beating Roop's jab back to his own face was beautiful. Timing and distance. I don't know if Hominick can do it, mind you. He's been using a come forward style himself for the past two fights, constant pressure. He's going to want to move his feet more against Aldo, I've got to think.

Disappointed he shouted out the troops. It's not his country, for one thing, but among some other stuff.
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Re: UFN 23/Fight For The Troops - Jan 22 

Post#56 » by cowboyronnie » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:34 pm

McKenzie was so damn close! Crap. His striking looked way way better. And he was constantly landing all the while grappling, through transitions and everything. Great pace, great heart (I thought he was done after Yves landed a couple flurries), uncanny technique and a crazy calm in the ring.

Mitrione and McKenzie both, they're perfectly calm and fearless in the ring. That's a big deal. Not only for following a game plan but mainly for endurance.
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