How much more?

minnisisky · Post #1 » by **minnisisky** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:43 pm

How bad do we have to do before they will find a real coach??? Rambis is garbage... he is 25-100 in the last two seasons... i know for a fact that our team is better than that!

LOBO 7 · Post #2 » by **LOBO 7** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:50 pm

Vindicater · Post #3 » by **Vindicater** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:52 pm

I agree

UK-Wolf · Post #4 » by **UK-Wolf** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:54 pm

LOBO 7 · Post #5 » by **LOBO 7** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:55 pm

Vindicater wrote:I agree

Nice. I was about to say, "Where's Vindicater when we need him?"

Carry on, fellas. I'll just stay out of this. :wink:

minnisisky · Post #6 » by **minnisisky** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:57 pm

Lobo, you like Rambis?

Vindicater · Post #7 » by **Vindicater** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:08 pm

LOBO 7 wrote:
Vindicater wrote:I agree

Nice. I was about to say, "Where's Vindicater when we need him?"

Carry on, fellas. I'll just stay out of this.

Oh Ive said my peice too, I will also stay out of this one 8-)

LOBO 7 · Post #8 » by **LOBO 7** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:09 pm

minnisisky wrote:Lobo, you like Rambis?

I think by now a lot of people around here know this much about me: I LOVE Rambis.

Ok, that might be an exaggeration, but I still have a lot of faith in him. For my explanation, and for a lot of other input from this board, see this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1081598&start=75

LOBO 7 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVTHz57nb3s&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

This is a man who obviously understands what this team needs to improve upon to be able to consistently win games, he obviously understands that players are frustrated and is obviously frustrated himself, but this is also obviously a man who is remaining patient and not damaging the collective confidence or chemistry of the team by overreacting or throwing anyone under the bus. He is not the best Xs and Os coach on the planet, we all realize that, but he is learning as he goes and not being overly stubborn in his rotations or his play calling. The team continues to bring good energy almost always, which is what made last night an especially frustrating loss. I do think that this loss was probably one of the most difficult losses of the season for the players, as they realize that they absolutely should have won. We will soon see how they bounce back from this one, but I personally believe they will be very focused and energetic against the Blazers.
I strongly believe that Rambis is doing a great job of being patient and continuing to believe in his players, and that they in turn remain confident and optimistic. At this point, calling for this man's head is silly and selfish.
It's silly because Rambis is planted firmly in the center of our long-term plans. Realistically, I can't see firing him as a realistic consideration for another year. If this time next year things haven't gotten better I too will have lost patience and would be willing to consider looking for another coach. However, I really don't see that happening. I am of the belief that once this team puts it all together they will improve at a rapid rate.
It's selfish because those calling for his head are doing so because this team isn't meeting their own unrealistic expectations. Yes, on paper this team looks like it should win 30 games this season. However, this team has still not played a single game with a fully healthy roster. The roster has 10 new players on it, and is the youngest roster in the league. Young teams are historically frustrating and difficult to gauge in terms of what constitutes a realistic expectation for the team. As far as I'm concerned, it is fairly obvious that if this team averaged 5 or 6 fewer turnovers a game they would have won several more games than they have. There have been SOOOO many careless turnovers in key moments of games this year. Careless turnovers are something that you cannot pin on a coach, and I'm sure he is more enraged than any of us in that regard, but he realizes that that is something he has to patiently wait for the players to improve upon, and when they do, the results will come. For us to call for his head because the team isn't meeting our own arbitrary expectations that we formulated by looking at this team on paper is selfish.

cpfsf · Post #9 » by **cpfsf** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:13 pm

Vague title + Little substance in the OP = Rubechat Thread Award

Krapinsky · Post #10 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:23 pm

Save it for Rubechat.

minnisisky · Post #11 » by **minnisisky** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:25 pm

I get that he is a good guy.. but that only gets you so far, i think he is ideal to have as an assistant. but the bottom line is.. he doesnt know how to win a damn game as a head coach. the end. this team will to no where with him as the head.

UK-Wolf · Post #12 » by **UK-Wolf** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:28 pm

minnisisky wrote:but the bottom line is.. he doesnt know how to win a damn game as a head coach. the end.

Wrong. He has 25 wins.

Post #13 » by **The J Rocka** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:32 pm

How many times have we been over this topic?

Post #14 » by **Klomp** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:21 am

minnisisky wrote:How bad do we have to do before they will find a real coach??? Rambis is garbage... he is 25-100 in the last two seasons... i know for a fact that our team is better than that!

If you look at wins and losses alone, yeah sure he maybe deserves to be fired. But we are in the middle of building a solid foundation to move forward. At our current stage, wins and losses are more of a bonus.

Esohny · Post #15 » by **Esohny** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:30 am

I could just as soon ask how many more of these rehashed threads we have to go through.

Post #16 » by **C.lupus** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:46 am

The answer is 86. Next.

Post #17 » by **revprodeji** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:51 am

cpfsf wrote:Vague title + Little substance in the OP = Rubechat Thread Award

NICE!!!

I think we want instant gratification. That is what is burning us right now. We need to embrace the baby steps. Has Kahn maximized his assets? No, but we have brought in some nice pieces. I think we can only evaluate the Jefferson move based on what we do with the cap-space at the deadline, but without having the access to truly know, I have problems blaming Rambis for this team. I think youth and redundant skills are more of the issue.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #18 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:00 am

Bottom line is the Wolves haven't improved in any areas as a team this season; mostly we've regressed from McHale across the board. We should've backed up the brinks truck for Tom Thibodeau when we had the chance. Oh well. I like Rambis, seems like a cool guy, but I don't see what he's done that's benefited the teams' success.

Krapinsky · Post #19 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:11 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:Bottom line is the Wolves haven't improved in any areas as a team this season; mostly we've regressed from McHale across the board. We should've backed up the brinks truck for Tom Thibodeau when we had the chance. Oh well. I like Rambis, seems like a cool guy, but I don't see what he's done that's benefited the teams' success.

Well McHale had Jefferson pre-injury who was becoming a top 15 NBA player. We're definately better than last year. A lot. If we improve as much next year as we did this year we will be winning many more game.

Post #20 » by **revprodeji** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:26 am

i agree w you but why then is our defense so bad?