Danny Granger

[8 Mile Ilic]

FACT: The Knicks began the season with the EASIEST schedule in the league.
FACT: Now that the Knicks have started to play average / good teams they're struggling to play .500 ball.

[vincecarter4pres]

Hey Jeff1624 you can keep all your picks. We will have the Amare, Melo, Felton show soon or starting next year. Who cares if you have more picks? We will have 2 great players and a decent guard to get them the ball. Good luck with your future in Brooklyn. Favors won't even be as good as Lee was for us. Take that Nets fans.

I want a mulligan.

I'm rolling back the over under to 210.

[John Starks]

Hey 8 mile the Nets can't even play .300 ball. Don't you have a better come back then that? Come on now.

Alright, enough everyone.

- Rich Rane

[vincecarter4pres]

Hey 8 mile the Nets can't even play .300 ball. Don't you have a better come back then that? Come on now.

As is you're a fringe above .500 team. With Melo, you're still right below Chicago.

[Joel Embust]

^^Again, I completely understand all that and can even get behind it, but I was speaking specifically and strictly in relation to the direct quote, "not that far from becoming a better player than Danny".

He is way far from becoming a better player than Danny. Even if he reaches his potential, he's way too raw to even match Granger's skill set and level of play for at least around another two seasons, that is not, "not that far".

It would be like saying Derrick Favors is "Not that far from becoming the better player than LaMarcus Aldridge".

To me, that is not that far since he's a 20 year old rookie who would be on a very young, bad and rebuilding Nets team. What do you think I was talking about, after the all-star break?

He'd be 22/23 in two/three years so if he can reach Danny's level of play at age 22 I think I'd much rather go for a guy like George. Granger was a rookie at age 22 and started to blossom around age 24.




Imagine George and Favors on the same team at age 22, 23 with guys like Irving and Lopez as other starters.



Edit: I've watched several Pacers games and I just finished watching the Pacers-Nuggets game. It's no secret that Granger isn't a leader. I hardly noticed him on the floor and that's usually the case when the Pacers are losing. George already is a better ballhandler, looks smoother, is a better passer and has the ability to knock down shots from anywhere on the floor in a variety of ways. He's getting better game by game.

The same Paul George averaging 6ppg who's career high is 16?

17 points tonight, a new career high for the rookie. Old high was 16, also registered in January since he's only been getting relevant minutes since the new year.

He'll easily improve on that career high this season.

[vincecarter4pres]

You don't have to sell me on Paul George, I wanted to trade Devin to Indiana on draft night for T.J. Ford and the 10th overall pick and take him.

I had no beef with you saying he would be better then Granger in time, you just kind of made it sound like he was going to be better by something like next season, which isn't impossible, but it's highly, highly improbable.

[enetric]

^^Again, I completely understand all that and can even get behind it, but I was speaking specifically and strictly in relation to the direct quote, "not that far from becoming a better player than Danny".

He is way far from becoming a better player than Danny. Even if he reaches his potential, he's way too raw to even match Granger's skill set and level of play for at least around another two seasons, that is not, "not that far".

It would be like saying Derrick Favors is "Not that far from becoming the better player than LaMarcus Aldridge".

I agree with you point. However...
I dont think you picked the right guy since Aldridge is overrated and not as good as Granger...plus Favors is a better prospects than George...so pick someone better than Aldridge. I probably would have said Dwight Howard in the example. But the point is....the previous comments were a HUGE reach. I guess Evan Turner is close to being Wade?

[Joel Embust]

Paul George is better than Turner while being two years younger and Granger is nowhere near Wade's level.

[captaincrunk]

I'm fine getting Granger, but you won't get a deal as good as Harris/Favors. By the way, Pacers offered us that deal and we declined just to refresh everyone's memory.

The problem is we can't use murphy in the deal, which makes it difficult. If you wanted Harris/Ross/Houston 1st for Granger/2nd, then deal but I don't think the pacers would be interested in that so much.

I haven't been paying attention to Indy this year. How are they liking Collison?

The cats might be interested in Murphy + randomguy for Wallace + random guy, especially if a pick is thrown in. If you want Granger, you could do a 3 team deal sending Wallace and someone young to Indy for Granger, but you're right they can't take back murphy.

But it's a way to keep Harris and get Granger, which sounds pretty nice.

[vincecarter4pres]

^^Again, I completely understand all that and can even get behind it, but I was speaking specifically and strictly in relation to the direct quote, "not that far from becoming a better player than Danny".

He is way far from becoming a better player than Danny. Even if he reaches his potential, he's way too raw to even match Granger's skill set and level of play for at least around another two seasons, that is not, "not that far".

It would be like saying Derrick Favors is "Not that far from becoming the better player than LaMarcus Aldridge".

I agree with you point. However...
I dont think you picked the right guy since Aldridge is overrated and not as good as Granger...plus Favors is a better prospects than George...so pick someone better than Aldridge. I probably would have said Dwight Howard in the example. But the point is....the previous comments were a HUGE reach. I guess Evan Turner is close to being Wade?

I don't think LMA is overrated, I think he finally found his game and his heart.
He has been an absolute monster since this has become his team.
He really took the next step this year.
Finally stopped taking a million midrange jumpers and started banging in the post with the big boys since Roy went down.
Sure it took him way too long to stop playing like a puss, but if he keeps this up from here on out, he's legitimately one of the top big men in the game.
His defense was always solid and he's been better on that end as well, all while Nate runs him into the ground on 40 something minutes per night.
He's leading a group of inexperienced role players into the playoffs in a stacked West.

Also, he's been getting a lot of time at center, where he has seemed to excel, he has the true size for that position, not a stretch to say maybe he stays there from now on for the most part.

If you watch him on the court, he looks almost transformed, similar to Rudy Gay.

All his advanced stats and splits back me up as well.

He's finally living up to his draft position and if he sustains this play for good, he's a straight steal for that contract extension.

Don't be hatin' yo!

[8 Mile Ilic]

George Paul. Mad overrated yo.

[vincecarter4pres]

George Paul. Mad overrated yo.

And that fool still owes me 37 dollars!