Thoughts On Wes Johnson

[Krapinsky]

No evidence? Brewer is like a -7 on the season. When he's out of the game we are a -200,000,843.

Yes, you probably figured out that too was an exaggeration. Obviosuly, the opposing SG is not scoring 6-7 threes a game on Wes, but if you watch the games you can see that Wes has a tough time fighting through screens and closing out on three point shooters. Not brain science.

Develop young talent? Wes isn't much younger than the rest of the players playing instead of him.

Some people will always find ways to criticize and point fingers.

[younggunsmn]

Some people will always find ways to criticize and point fingers.

(Points finger at you pointing finger at Wes Johnson).

Last 4 losses w/ Brewer in starting lineup:
Wolves -44
Brewer -20
Johnson +10.

+/- means absolutely nothing.
The Wolves are playing just as bad overall, if not worse, with Brewer in the lineup.
Brewer has also had a ton of trouble getting around screens (although he's been better lately).

The last meaningful win we had was when Wes dropped 24 on the Hornets and sealed the game with his Ice Cold shooting in the 4th quarter. I want that player back.

[Krapinsky]

Some people will always find ways to criticize and point fingers.

(Points finger at you pointing finger at Wes Johnson).

Last 4 losses w/ Brewer in starting lineup:
Wolves -44
Brewer -20
Johnson +10.

+/- means absolutely nothing. The Wolves are playing just as bad overall, if not worse, with Brewer in the lineup.
Brewer has also had a ton of trouble getting around screens (although he's been better lately).

The last meaningful win we had was when Wes dropped 24 on the Hornets and sealed the game with his Ice Cold shooting in the 4th quarter. I want that player back.

Certainly means more over the course of a season than four games. I want "that" player back too. But so far Wes has only done that in two games and has played 30 games with no intensity. I'm not pointing fingers or blaming anyone the way you are, I'm defending Rambis's actions against your finger pointing.

[Grits n Gravy]

Hey T-wolves board, I just wanted to know how you guys feel about Wes Johnson. How he's played, if you think he will improve into a borderline all-star, would you draft Wes again given the chance. And if you were to trade him what would you expect in return?

Johnson hasnt been playing well lately at all, but before that he played alright. The two things he really needs to do to improve his game is to become more aggressive in all facets of the game and develop a decent handle. His shooting stroke is really smooth, his passing and court vision are great, and I think he is a really smart player. Lately though, he hit the rookie wall, and has just been playing bad, making stupid mistakes, shooting poorly, and not affecting the game in all facets.

As for if I would draft him again, I guess I wouldnt have a problem with it, though it would be nice to have Monroe, Cousins or Fields on this team. As for return, I really dont know. I'd have to see the offer/s before i make a decision

Wes has the athleticism, shooting touch, desire to play defense, and NBA body to be a successful player. He lacks handles and agressiveness right now. I think the agressiveness will come with time, although I don't think he will ever be a #1 option/creator. He seems to view himself as a Pippen-type guy, not a Jordan-type so I think a lot of it is just his mindset. The handles may be the one limiting factor for him. I would really like to see how he would look as a 2nd or 3rd option on offense playing next to a playmaking PG, though.

he also needs to work strongly on defense as i think he is very weak there which is to be expected playing out of position. but sum up simply - aggressiveness - especially slashing, ball handling, defense and i think we'll have ourselves a extremely nice player. this first year is all a new experience for him, i think he'll have a far greater impact next year when he's had a chance to see where he needs to improve.

[[RCG]]

Couldn't see the game but his stat line from tonight looks pretty good:

19 pts on 13 shots, 3 rbs, 4 asts, 3 stls 2 blks. Looks very Iggy-ish to me.

[stiles21]

Johnson's problem is that he's too happy, he always smiling and smirking. The Kid need to get tough and start playing mad.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Johnson's problem is that he's too happy, he always smiling and smirking. The Kid need to get tough and start playing mad.

he had a couple moments today. Greatest part was when I was just getting ready to rip into him for lolly gagging up the court, he was walking and behind all 9 players and I thought he lost his mind, then he grabs the ball from Flynn real fast and explodes into a drained three, pretty nice

[younggunsmn]

Certainly means more over the course of a season than four games. I want "that" player back too. But so far Wes has only done that in two games and has played 30 games with no intensity. I'm not pointing fingers or blaming anyone the way you are, I'm defending Rambis's actions against your finger pointing.

Point was Brewer was finally playing with the first unit, and the tables turned. +/- is flawed because it penalizes you for the play of your teammates and the quality of the opposition. According to +/- Eric Maynor is a much better player than Russell Westbrook. That's not true, OKC's 2nd unit is just a bunch better than most other teams' 2nd units.

I'm defending Johnson and criticizing Rambis's handling of him. You're defending Rambis and criticizing Wes.

The difference is that you pointed a finger at me for stating my opinion. I'm a kettle and you're a pot, but I already know I'm only stating my opinion. That's what this forum is all about.

Wes has been ripped by Rambis subtlely and by Jim Pete constantly on air over the past month. You see a guy not giving effort, I don't. I see a rookie who is afraid to screw up and is still learning a complicated system on both ends of the floor, which keeps him from playing fast.

I thought he played well tonight, he did some good things. His D in the 1st quarter was shaky, but after that he picked it up.

[Steve_Holiday]

I still say there is something out of the ordinary about Rambis's treatment of Wes outside of the usual distaste for rookies.

Conspiracies abound with your posts.

Wes has not shown he's the clear-cut best option the team has on the wing, yet averages nearly 30 minutes a game. Jonny averaged nearly 30 a night last year, and he didn't do a whole lot to distinguish himself from Sessions. Kurt Rambis is not Larry Brown.

[Klomp]

Some people will always find ways to criticize and point fingers.

(Points finger at you pointing finger at Wes Johnson).

Last 4 losses w/ Brewer in starting lineup:
Wolves -44
Brewer -20
Johnson +10.

+/- means absolutely nothing.
The Wolves are playing just as bad overall, if not worse, with Brewer in the lineup.
Brewer has also had a ton of trouble getting around screens (although he's been better lately).

The last meaningful win we had was when Wes dropped 24 on the Hornets and sealed the game with his Ice Cold shooting in the 4th quarter. I want that player back.

And what was it when Johnson was starting? Its hard for some of you to believe I'm sure, but it could just be that Wes plays better off the bench. Its hard for him to be aggressive when he's got to wait to get the ball from Love, Beasley, Darko, or Luke. Also, I think Wes and Jonny playing together more is helping the both of them.

[Ice32]

Guys, theres an easy way to solve this issue which seems to be, is Wes or Brewer better in the starting 5....

Simple: PER

Wes - 9.8

Brewer - 11.0

Nuff said.

[AQuintus]

Guys, theres an easy way to solve this issue which seems to be, is Wes or Brewer better in the starting 5....

Simple: PER

Wes - 9.8

Brewer - 11.0

Nuff said.

Or we could do this:

Wes - .529 TS% & Team sucks at defense

Brewer - .468 TS% & Team sucks at defense

...Wait, maybe it isn't so easy.

[Esohny]

Guys, theres an easy way to solve this issue which seems to be, is Wes or Brewer better in the starting 5....

Simple: PER

Wes - 9.8

Brewer - 11.0

Nuff said.

Yes, easy and a bit dumb.

[zerogravity15]

Wes is a good athlete and outside shooter. He needs to work on his handle and be more aggressive in looking for his shot. He should put a lot of work on his handle in the off season.

[kemi4kobes]

Anyone know what happened to Wes' twitter page? Did he delete it?