Kwame Brown is gonna get PAID this offseason

Leolovinliberal · Post #1 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:57 am

13 points and 18 boards tonight, averaging 7 and 6 in 21 mpg. I think he's finally shed the bust label, now that coaches and gm's have figured out how to use him. If playing 30 plus mpg he'll be good for 12/12 on a nightly basis and would be that "missing piece" to put a contending team over the hump. I could see Orlando or Atl. making a big push for him this off season, allowing Dwight or Al to move over to the 4 spot. If OKC lets Green go in the offseason, KD would stay at the 3, Ibaka goes to the 4 and Kwame could be their center. Toronto could definitely use him, but they're no where near contending, plus Kwame's almost 29 and the Raps have a glut of pf's with Ed Davis, Amir and Bargs, if he were to move back to his normal position. Regardless, good to see Kwame resurrecting his career in Clt. and it's gonna pay off (literally) for him big time.

bruddahmanmatt · Post #2 » by **bruddahmanmatt** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:59 am

Looks like the work with Oakley is paying off. He's averaging 8.6/8.1 on 60 FG% since the start of the month. Pretty impressive. Given the league's shortage on bigs, I'm inclined to agree with you in that he'll get a contract but uhh...Dwight Howard is NOT a 4 and he would not be sliding over to accommodate Brown. If Orlando were to pick him up, Kwame would fill the Gortat role and play behind Howard at the 5. That being said, I wouldn't put it past someone to overpay and dole out the full MLE for the guy.

ChuckTheD · Post #3 » by **ChuckTheD** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:00 am

Kwame'd be a good backup for Dwight but he definitely hasn't shed the bust label. A #1 pick peaking as a solid defensive back-up big man is a bust.

GoBobs · Post #4 » by **GoBobs** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:05 am

He is having some good games and I hope he continues to do well. 7 and 6 in 21 minutes doesn't get you paid in the NBA though. Ask K Brown those are his career averages and he is playing for the league min or close to it.

Legend-of-Wade · Post #5 » by **Legend-of-Wade** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:07 am

joel anthony defended amare well last time we played the knicks, point i am trying to make is one game means nothing. prove to me he can play on a continues basis. then lets talk. but maybe the raptors would say him well, wouldn't be shocked at all lol.

Post #6 » by **miller31time** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:07 am

Sonrise wrote:averaging 7 and 6 in 21 mpg. I think he's finally shed the bust label

Post #7 » by **darth_federer** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:08 am

Colangelo will offer him 5 year 35 million

Stills12 · Post #8 » by **Stills12** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:09 am

Not even close to shedding the bust label.

Dr Aki · Post #9 » by **Dr Aki** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:13 am

if he turns into a respectable center backup, that would be great considering his resume right now

Leolovinliberal · Post #10 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:18 am

ChuckTheD wrote:Kwame'd be a good backup for Dwight but he definitely hasn't shed the bust label. A #1 pick peaking as a solid defensive back-up big man is a bust.

13/18 is not a "solid defensive back-up big man", as you put it. Those are starter numbers, for sure, and granted, tonight was an outlier game, but 12/12 is very reasonable.

Leolovinliberal · Post #11 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:20 am

miller31time wrote:
Sonrise wrote:averaging 7 and 6 in 21 mpg. I think he's finally shed the bust label

That was very deep and thought provoking. I hadn't considered your point of view before and will give that some serious consideration. Moron.

Post #12 » by **KF10** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:20 am

For some odd reason, Kwame plays well against the Kings. I remember when Kwame was a Laker, he had a MONSTER game against Sacramento. I think he had something like: 34/19 + 4 blocks.

Kwame looks like he still has the talent to be in the NBA. I think he can be a very serviceable reserve big on a good team.

vincecarter4pres · Post #13 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:21 am

Sonrise wrote:
ChuckTheD wrote:Kwame'd be a good backup for Dwight but he definitely hasn't shed the bust label. A #1 pick peaking as a solid defensive back-up big man is a bust.

13/18 is not a "solid defensive back-up big man", as you put it. Those are starter numbers, for sure, and granted, tonight was an outlier game, but 12/12 is very reasonable.

:notsureifserious:

Leolovinliberal · Post #14 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:22 am

Still Desi wrote:Not even close to shedding the bust label.

"Not even close", huh? If you had written, "close to shedding the bust label" I may have agreed with you, but to type in "not even" makes me ask what you would use to define "close?"

Leolovinliberal · Post #15 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:24 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
Sonrise wrote:
ChuckTheD wrote:Kwame'd be a good backup for Dwight but he definitely hasn't shed the bust label. A #1 pick peaking as a solid defensive back-up big man is a bust.

13/18 is not a "solid defensive back-up big man", as you put it. Those are starter numbers, for sure, and granted, tonight was an outlier game, but 12/12 is very reasonable.

:notsureifserious:

He started tonight and put up 13/18. Over the last month he's been good for 8/8. I said that if given 35 plus minutes a game 12/12 is not unrealistic. Not sure what you're not sure about? :dontknow:

Post #16 » by **miller31time** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:28 am

Sonrise wrote:
miller31time wrote:
Sonrise wrote:averaging 7 and 6 in 21 mpg. I think he's finally shed the bust label

That was very deep and thought provoking. I hadn't considered your point of view before and will give that some serious consideration. Moron.

Didn't mean to offend. Just found it funny.

You have to understand, I'm a Wizards fan. We drafted this guy with the #1 pick. We were banking on him being a franchise player or at the very least, an All-Star-caliber player.

These SHOULD be the expectations of a #1 overall selection.

Saying 6pts and 7rebs in 21 minutes simply will not help shed the "bust label".

big bang bl0w · Post #17 » by **big bang bl0w** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:30 am

IF he can defend I don't see why a team won't give him a chance. Any big taht can defend has some value in this league.

Post #18 » by **miller31time** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:35 am

Sonrise wrote:He started tonight and put up 13/18. Over the last month he's been good for 8/8. I said that if given 35 plus minutes a game 12/12 is not unrealistic. Not sure what you're not sure about?

Two points.

1. 12/12 won't help shed the bust label.

2. You cannot extrapolate 8 and 8 to 12 and 12. Well, mathematically, you can. But basketball doesn't work like that. Otherwise, the coach of a team with a player averaging 2pts in 2 minutes per game would simply give his player 40mpg and see him score 40ppg. There's a reason these players don't get a lot of minutes. Sometimes, it's because productivity takes a steep decline with added minutes. Sometimes, it's because they can't handle consistently facing starting competition rather than bench competition. Sometimes, they foul at a high rate. And sometimes, it's a healthy combination of all these factors.

Leolovinliberal · Post #19 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:36 am

Miller,
i understand as a Wizards fan, you have bad memories, but sadly Kwame was put in a no win situation there. Michael Jordan happens to be the greatest player of all time, but also one of the worst human beings of all time. I don't have to tell you about the daily verbal abuse Kwame had to endure under MJ. Imagine being 18, told by the greatest player to ever live that you were going to be a star when he drafted you and then 3 months later literally being called a "pu55y" and "fa55ot" every day at practice, by that same exact greatest player of all time. I don't care how much money you're making, that kind of emotional and verbal abuse had to take it's toll, especially on an 18 year old. Not to mention MJ is a piss poor talent evaluator and Kwame should have never been the #1 pick to begin with. It wasn't his fault he was picked #1.

Post #20 » by **miller31time** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:41 am

Sonrise wrote:Miller,
i understand as a Wizards fan, you have bad memories, but sadly Kwame was put in a no win situation there. Michael Jordan happens to be the greatest player of all time, but also one of the worst human beings of all time. I don't have to tell you about the daily verbal abuse Kwame had to endure under MJ. Imagine being 18, told by the greatest player to ever live that you were going to be a star when he drafted you and then 3 months later literally being called a "pu55y" and "fa55ot" every day at practice, by that same exact greatest player of all time. I don't care how much money you're making, that kind of emotional and verbal abuse had to take it's toll, especially on an 18 year old. Not to mention MJ is a piss poor talent evaluator and Kwame should have never been the #1 pick to begin with. It wasn't his fault he was picked #1.

Well-aware of all of these things and I agree that it's not Kwame's fault he was picked 1st (though he was the consensus #1 pick by a multitude of talent evaluators, not just Jordan), nor was it his fault MJ was (and is) a scumbag of a person.

However, he WAS the 1st overall pick and thus will be evaluated as such in terms of bustability. Also, while I don't know of many players who would enjoy being humiliated by Jordan, Kwame certainly doesn't have the toughest skin.