Prospect Watch Thread

[Klomp]

Some links please? Not trying to question you, just want to read more about the guy. All I have to go on is some youtube footage and a couple games from the FIBA tournament this summer I made sure to catch after DX pimped him a bit. Looked really active, which is why it's somewhat surprising to hear he doesn't want to put in work.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/lucas-nogueira

[horaceworthy]

Some links please? Not trying to question you, just want to read more about the guy. All I have to go on is some youtube footage and a couple games from the FIBA tournament this summer I made sure to catch after DX pimped him a bit. Looked really active, which is why it's somewhat surprising to hear he doesn't want to put in work.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/lucas-nogueira

Edited my post as you were posting this. I'd have to see it from another source before really taking it into consideration.

[moss_is_1]

Some links please? Not trying to question you, just want to read more about the guy. All I have to go on is some youtube footage and a couple games from the FIBA tournament this summer I made sure to catch after DX pimped him a bit. Looked really active, which is why it's somewhat surprising to hear he doesn't want to put in work.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/lucas-nogueira

Edited my post as you were posting this. I'd have to see it from another source before really taking it into consideration.

I did see it on nbadraft.net, but I thought I saw it elsewhere too. Like I said I haven't seen him at all besides youtube so I really didn't know much about him. But it'd be nice to grab him with the Memphis pick if he decided to come out this year. He probably wouldn't come over right away but it'd be nice to have that length and size stashed away. He kinda seems like he could be a Marcus Camby type, skinny, long, great shotblocker, not much of an offensive game besides the occasional jumper.

[Klomp]

I was thinking more a JaVale McGee type

[Twolves98]

I feel like we drafted another guy that we saw from youtube... what was his name again

[[RCG]]

Where do you think Jimmer Fredette will go? He could be interesting with the Utah pick assuming we have it.

[Piecake]

Where do you think Jimmer Fredette will go? He could be interesting with the Utah pick assuming we have it.

I'd rather draft David Lighty with our Utah Pick. I would draft lighty with our second, but I dont think we have our second, do we?

[[RCG]]

Where do you think Jimmer Fredette will go? He could be interesting with the Utah pick assuming we have it.

I'd rather draft David Lighty with our Utah Pick. I would draft lighty with our second, but I dont think we have our second, do we?

Pretty sure Miami has it.

[shangrila]

I think he'll go higher than the Utah pick if he keeps playing like this. The Steph Curry comparisons I've seen are a bit much but he's a mid first and maybe a late lottery pick, depending on where the chips fall.

[KAHN_SWITCH]

Any love for Knight on here? saw him play and liked what i saw utah pick consideration?

[Piecake]

Any love for Knight on here? saw him play and liked what i saw utah pick consideration?

He isnt going to be there at the Utah Pick

[horaceworthy]

Where do you think Jimmer Fredette will go? He could be interesting with the Utah pick assuming we have it.

I'd rather draft David Lighty with our Utah Pick. I would draft lighty with our second, but I dont think we have our second, do we?

The Utah pick is looking like it could end up in the 18-22 range, Lighty's more an early 2nd/late 1st guy, unless this draft is even weaker than expected. Nice player, but there are already guys on the team who bring similar things to the table.

I love watching Fredette play. Just an uncanny knack for creating space, strong handle and killer jump shot. He uses screens, changes speeds and splits doubles like Brandon Roy. He also does a good job using his shoulders to create space around the rim.

I don't think he'll be available at the Utah pick, and the only way I can see the Wolves having interest in him is if they've lost faith in Rubio.

I hope the Wolves go big man (Jones, Valanciunas or Kanter preferably) or Irving with their pick. The Memphis pick I don't see being relayed this year. There should be some solid SG available with the Utah pick. Probably a little late for Burks, but there are a couple freshman that have come on a bit recently, like Will Barton and Jeremy Lamb.

Lamb's got a nice handle, can shoot and has played well since getting called out by Calhoun. He's a pretty good athlete, more smooth than explosive, and may have one of the more absurd height to wingspan ratios out there if reports of his 7'4" wingspan are correct (he's either 6'4" or 6'5", the wingspan was mentioned during UCONN's last game against Marquette and in his ESPN recruiting profile).

He's just recently gotten more assertive, and he's still painfully thin, but he's a very interesting prospect if he chooses to declare.

Barton is about 6'5" or 6'6" and also looks to have Dhalsim arms, although not quite to the same extent as Lamb. He's got a skill set similar to Jamal Crawford, but he gets after it on the defensive end. Good athlete, although not the most explosive leaper.

I was a little bummed about the Utah pick earlier in the year when it was in the 25+ range, but now that it looks like it could be #20 or a bit earlier, I'm a bit more excited about the possibilities, even in this draft.

[Piecake]

I really don't think we have a player like Lighty on this team. He is a complete all-around player. Now, I'm not saying that that means he is better than any of our guys right now or anything, but he really doesnt have any weaknesses. Brewer can't shoot worth a damn and plays out of control too much, Webster is pretty poor on defense and turns the ball over a lot, Beasley is poor on defense as well. I think I am forgetting about someone, but whatever, he must not be important.

You really can't say that about Lighty. Sure, he isnt elite at everything, but he is competent to good at everything and is a true SG with good handles - and good handles is something that this team sorely lacks. Plus, he is already an intangibles guy, a role-player. that might sound like a knock, but it isnt. He does what it takes for the team to win. We need guys like that. Plus, he is 6'6 and looks a lot more athletic/explosive this year, so it looks like he finally recovered from his injuries. I think his game will transfer fantastically to the NBA

I do agree on your Jonas and Irving pick, less on Kanter, but ill be OK if we pick him. I have little interest in every other top prospect. Just a glut of SF and PFs and that is something that we don't need.

[AQuintus]

At this point, I'm thinking that if we're not in position to get Irving, we should just trade the picks to get some good veteran help (allstar or very, very close). We're already too young and there just aren't enough minutes to go around to develop another young guy.

[horaceworthy]

You really can't say that about Lighty. Sure, he isnt elite at everything, but he is competent to good at everything and is a true SG with good handles - and good handles is something that this team sorely lacks. Plus, he is already an intangibles guy, a role-player. that might sound like a knock, but it isnt. He does what it takes for the team to win. We need guys like that. Plus, he is 6'6 and looks a lot more athletic/explosive this year, so it looks like he finally recovered from his injuries. I think his game will transfer fantastically to the NBA

Lighty looks about the same athletically to me as he has throughout his career. He has a decent enough handle to pump and go, as well as take advantage of the space Ohio State's offense affords him, especially since he has a PF closing out on him most of the time. Wes, Martell, even Ellington and Hayward can all do that.

Lighty's also a willing passer who can kick it out or dump it off to Sullinger or Lauderdale if their guy comes over to rotate, but I don't think he'll create shots off the bounce as effectively when going against NBA wings as opposed to collegiate PF's who are typically already at a disadvantage since they're closing out on a 3 point shooter.

He has good body control and leaping ability when he gets his feet under him, has improved his jumper, and plays solid defense. He also makes good decisions, but I don't see him as a 6'6" true SG. Closer to a 6'5" guy more of a SF offensive game playing a combo forward role for his college team. He'll end up playing some/mostly SG because he'll likely be better off defending that position in the pros.

I think he'll be a solid role player in the NBA but I don't see where his playing time would come here, and I don't see enough upside/differentiation from what's already on the roster to get too excited about taking him with the Utah pick.

[Grits n Gravy]

Where do you think Jimmer Fredette will go? He could be interesting with the Utah pick assuming we have it.

I'd rather draft David Lighty with our Utah Pick. I would draft lighty with our second, but I dont think we have our second, do we?

The Utah pick is looking like it could end up in the 18-22 range, Lighty's more an early 2nd/late 1st guy, unless this draft is even weaker than expected. Nice player, but there are already guys on the team who bring similar things to the table.

I love watching Fredette play. Just an uncanny knack for creating space, strong handle and killer jump shot. He uses screens, changes speeds and splits doubles like Brandon Roy. He also does a good job using his shoulders to create space around the rim.

I don't think he'll be available at the Utah pick, and the only way I can see the Wolves having interest in him is if they've lost faith in Rubio.

I hope the Wolves go big man (Jones, Valanciunas or Kanter preferably) or Irving with their pick. The Memphis pick I don't see being relayed this year. There should be some solid SG available with the Utah pick. Probably a little late for Burks, but there are a couple freshman that have come on a bit recently, like Will Barton and Jeremy Lamb.

Lamb's got a nice handle, can shoot and has played well since getting called out by Calhoun. He's a pretty good athlete, more smooth than explosive, and may have one of the more absurd height to wingspan ratios out there if reports of his 7'4" wingspan are correct (he's either 6'4" or 6'5", the wingspan was mentioned during UCONN's last game against Marquette and in his ESPN recruiting profile).He's just recently gotten more assertive, and he's still painfully thin, but he's a very interesting prospect if he chooses to declare.

Barton is about 6'5" or 6'6" and also looks to have Dhalsim arms, although not quite to the same extent as Lamb. He's got a skill set similar to Jamal Crawford, but he gets after it on the defensive end. Good athlete, although not the most explosive leaper.

I was a little bummed about the Utah pick earlier in the year when it was in the 25+ range, but now that it looks like it could be #20 or a bit earlier, I'm a bit more excited about the possibilities, even in this draft.

that is absolutely absurd(not saying it's not true) the longest wingspan i think i have ever seen measured is javale mcgee and i think his were 7'6 but he's also 7' himself, wow

[Piecake]

I think he'll be a solid role player in the NBA but I don't see where his playing time would come here, and I don't see enough upside/differentiation from what's already on the roster to get too excited about taking him with the Utah pick.

Is there going to be anyone exciting at that pick? I sure don't think so. A solid role player is about what we should expect from the Utah pick, especially in such a weak draft. I think Lighty definitely has a better handle than Webster, Brewer, or Johnson, simply because they have such poor handles. He is a decent shooter, a decent passer and can finish around the rim.

To me, that is what we need out of our SG. the only wing player we have right now that can actually guard SGs effectively is Brewer, and he is just bad on offense. If we can get a player who is a better shooter, is better in transition, and just plays smarter, I think we should take it. I don't think Webster is really a long term player for us since he simply can't guard SGs. Johnson is more of a SF, but might be able develop on the defensive end and get some handles so that he is more of what we need.

I simply think we would be a much more balanced team if we got rid of Webster for a decently tall SG who can defend, can shoot alright, dribble pretty well, and makes the smart play sounds like the type of player that would be great for us coming off the bench. I would much much much rather have Lighty than Ellington or Hawyard - and think he can be a better player than Brewer or Webster.

[horaceworthy]

Is there going to be anyone exciting at that pick? I sure don't think so. A solid role player is about what we should expect from the Utah pick, especially in such a weak draft. I think Lighty definitely has a better handle than Webster, Brewer, or Johnson, simply because they have such poor handles. He is a decent shooter, a decent passer and can finish around the rim.

If the pick lands in the 18-20 range? Yes, there likely will be someone more exciting than Lighty at that pick.

Lighty's handles aren't as good as you're making them out to be. may have a better handle than Johnson or Webster, but that's debatable. He's mostly a straight line, pump and go guy without a consistent midrange game. His jumper isn't good enough to run him off screens, and his handle and passing ability aren't to the point where you'd use him in pick and roll situations. He doesn't have the first step or the change of speed/direction ability to consistently create space or break down the defense in the halfcourt, although he's adept at playing off of the pressure others put on the defense.

The Wolves have that type of wing already, and they don't appear to be all that tough to find. There's a handful or so of that type of player available from the late 1st on out this year (Justin Holiday, Travis Leslie, Scotty Hopson, etc.). I don't see what separates Lighty from that group so definitively.

He's a nice player (and I think he'll be a solid NBA player), but he's the same type of player the Wolves used just about all their draft assets last year acquiring. I hope they go another direction in the first round this year.

[horaceworthy]

that is absolutely absurd(not saying it's not true) the longest wingspan i think i have ever seen measured is javale mcgee and i think his were 7'6 but he's also 7' himself, wow

Yeah, it's ridiculous. The longest in the DX measurements database is erstwhile Mississippi State center John Riek at 7'8.75", although I guess he hasn't been in a draft yet. Longest wingspan drafted in that database is Saer Sene at 7'8.5". I think the biggest disparity in there is Jason Maxiell at 6'5" in socks and a 7'3.25" wingspan. Lamb's wingspan is pretty much historically ludicrous if the reports are true.

[Devilzsidewalk]

I'd love to see them package that Utah pick w/ Flynn to try and get a shot at Fredette or Knight. The team could really use a guard w/ some semblance of handles that can create some offense. I don't know how good Fredette can be defensively, but I think offensively his slashing is underrated and he seems to have no problem getting space for his jumper. As for Knight, he's a scoring guard for sure, but he looks like he has the NBA game down pat, I think he's going to adapt very quickly