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Re: 1/26 Wolves vs. Thunder 7PM FSN 

Post#421 » by KAHN_SWITCH » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:42 pm

whats Loves contract status for next year klomp, is he looking @ a max deal?
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Re: 1/26 Wolves vs. Thunder 7PM FSN 

Post#422 » by TMo519 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:17 pm

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Love finished with 31 points, 21 rebounds and made all three of his three-pointers. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, the last player to make at least three three-pointers in a 30-point, 20-rebound game was Kevin Garnett, who did it for the Timberwolves against the Sacramento Kings on Dec. 5, 2003. Garnett had 33 points, 25 rebounds and, like Love, was three-for-three from behind the arc.

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That's one of the most satisfying games I can remember watching the Wolves. That was the "Big 3" coming out party and KG hit those two late threes to send it to OT.

Can't wait until we can get back to those types of wins, instead of lamenting all these close losses.
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Re: 1/26 Wolves vs. Thunder 7PM FSN 

Post#423 » by AQuintus » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:44 pm

Dewey wrote:Green beats beas with ease and gets in the paint for an uncontested shot ... I have to think AT and Tolliver would have made a difference.


Green beat Beas because the entire team was overplaying the 3 point and Durant shot to stop the Thunder from winning. I don't think that Tolliver and/or Darko would have changed that.

I will say, though, that the team's habitual bad defense is definitely on the coaching staff.

There's an interesting thread discussing this on the general board: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1087420

And there's also a good article discussing the importance of scheme vs personal here: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/1/25/1954651/chris-paul-new-orleans-hornets-defense
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Re: 1/26 Wolves vs. Thunder 7PM FSN 

Post#424 » by Dewey » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:42 pm

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Dewey wrote:coaching? I agree it's about players, but when we need defense, why were Darko and AT on the bench? Green beats beas with ease and gets in the paint for an uncontested shot ... I have to think AT and Tolliver would have made a difference.

No matter who was on the floor, there'd be someone here complaining about it. Small ball was working, and Wes was playing well.


So your team needs a stop and you don't sub in defense during a timeout? I'm not taling about Wes.

Whatever ... :roll:
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Re: 1/26 Wolves vs. Thunder 7PM FSN 

Post#425 » by horaceworthy » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:53 am

Dewey wrote:coaching? I agree it's about players, but when we need defense, why were Darko and AT on the bench? Green beats beas with ease and gets in the paint for an uncontested shot ... I have to think AT and Tolliver would have made a difference.

Green's shot was contested by Beasley, Wes and Love tried to take the charge (but there wasn't quite enough contact to flop on). Beasley had just had to help out on Durant because Brewer got screened by Green, otherwise Durant would have had an uncontested look from the free throw line. Beasley made Durant give up the ball, Green mishandled the pass and Beasley overran him, otherwise that play likely would have resulted in a contested 3 by Green.

Beasley made a mistake by letting his momentum take him past Green, but I'll take a contested Jeff Green runner over an open Durant 15 footer. Green deserves some credit for making a fairly tough play down the stretch of a close game.

I do also question why Tolliver didn't see more time, given how well he defended Durant the last time he played against OKC, especially since Brewer was handcuffed by fouls much of the 2nd half.
"A while back,'' Cardinal said, "I took a picture of the standings and texted it to Love, just to bust his chops,'' Cardinal said. "He sent me a picture back of a snowdrift.''
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Re: 1/26 Wolves vs. Thunder 7PM FSN 

Post#426 » by AQuintus » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:17 am

horaceworthy wrote:I do also question why Tolliver didn't see more time, given how well he defended Durant the last time he played against OKC, especially since Brewer was handcuffed by fouls much of the 2nd half.


The few times that I noticed Tolliver guarding Durant, he was getting torched.
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Re: 1/26 Wolves vs. Thunder 7PM FSN 

Post#427 » by horaceworthy » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:24 am

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horaceworthy wrote:I do also question why Tolliver didn't see more time, given how well he defended Durant the last time he played against OKC, especially since Brewer was handcuffed by fouls much of the 2nd half.


The few times that I noticed Tolliver guarding Durant, he was getting torched.

Most of the time I noticed anybody guarding Durant last night, they were getting torched. The game I was referring to was the November matchup, when Tolliver did an excellent job denying Durant the ball during the 2nd half.
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Re: 1/26 Wolves vs. Thunder 7PM FSN 

Post#428 » by Klomp » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:03 am

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Klomp wrote:
Dewey wrote:coaching? I agree it's about players, but when we need defense, why were Darko and AT on the bench? Green beats beas with ease and gets in the paint for an uncontested shot ... I have to think AT and Tolliver would have made a difference.

No matter who was on the floor, there'd be someone here complaining about it. Small ball was working, and Wes was playing well.


So your team needs a stop and you don't sub in defense during a timeout? I'm not taling about Wes.

Whatever ... :roll:

I know you aren't talking about Wes. But its about matchups. Who do you take out, Beasley or Love? Do you really think you'd be fine taking out one or both of your best players in the final seconds of regulation?
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Re: 1/26 Wolves vs. Thunder 7PM FSN 

Post#429 » by Dewey » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:11 am

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I know you aren't talking about Wes. But its about matchups. Who do you take out, Beasley or Love? Do you really think you'd be fine taking out one or both of your best players in the final seconds of regulation?[/quote]

Beasley and Love certainly are not the best defensive options, so yes, one of them can be yanked ...

Not a big deal ... mere difference of opinion. Crush Jazz!!
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Re: 1/26 Wolves vs. Thunder 7PM FSN 

Post#430 » by LOBO 7 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:42 am

Interesting little video where some dude, a high school coach or something, breaks down Durant and Love in this game:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPWYjrq7bRY[/youtube]

Takes a bit to get rolling, wait for it..
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Re: 1/26 Wolves vs. Thunder 7PM FSN 

Post#431 » by Piecake » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:52 am

Brewer does look pretty bad in that video
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Re: 1/26 Wolves vs. Thunder 7PM FSN 

Post#432 » by LOBO 7 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:58 am

Piecake wrote:Brewer does look pretty bad in that video


Other than the one play where he gets wiped out by the screen and the one where he gets behind Durant going for a steal, I thought he did a good job of making Durant hit a lot of tough shots. Same with Tolliver and Johnson for the most part. Bottom line is Durant hit a lot of tough, contested shots down the stretch.
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Re: 1/26 Wolves vs. Thunder 7PM FSN 

Post#433 » by AQuintus » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:12 am

horaceworthy wrote:Most of the time I noticed anybody guarding Durant last night, they were getting torched. The game I was referring to was the November matchup, when Tolliver did an excellent job denying Durant the ball during the 2nd half.


I knew which game you were referring to. :D The reason that I said what I said is because they tried the Tolliver/Durant matchup again and it didn't work at all.
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