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One Realistic Trade Target 

Post#1 » by Bac2Basics » Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:34 am

What one player (that's at least somewhat realistic) would you most like to see Sacramento trade for?

Why do you target that particular player?

What leads you to believe that player would be a great fit with the team's core (Evans/Cousins)?
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Re: One Realistic Trade Target 

Post#2 » by rpa » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:38 am

The one guy I'd love to add is Morrow. He's not necessarily a "core" guy in terms of being uber-talented or anything like that but he's an elite-level outside shooter, he's not a sieve on defense, he's still young (25), and he's signed cheaply for 2 more years ($4mil each season).
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Post#3 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:08 am

Is the conversation completely restricted to a player that would be a part of our "core", or can it be extrapolated into taking contract status into account. Because some of the most realistic trades I can see based almost entirely for contract status to possibly dump a little more salary.

One player that might fit both areas is Troy Murphy. Would help on the boards and help spread the floor for Cousins and Evans.

Honestly, all the players I would like to add to this team are free agents this summer. Shane Battier, Tayshaun Prince, and David West.
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Re: One Realistic Trade Target 

Post#4 » by RIPskaterdude » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:26 am

rpa wrote:The one guy I'd love to add is Morrow. He's not necessarily a "core" guy in terms of being uber-talented or anything like that but he's an elite-level outside shooter, he's not a sieve on defense, he's still young (25), and he's signed cheaply for 2 more years ($4mil each season).


If we were interested in him, why wouldn't we have just signed him in the first place?
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Re: One Realistic Trade Target 

Post#5 » by wiltchamberlain » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:07 am

xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:
rpa wrote:The one guy I'd love to add is Morrow. He's not necessarily a "core" guy in terms of being uber-talented or anything like that but he's an elite-level outside shooter, he's not a sieve on defense, he's still young (25), and he's signed cheaply for 2 more years ($4mil each season).


If we were interested in him, why wouldn't we have just signed him in the first place?


Maybe Geoff underestimated the problems the team would have shooting this year? Honestly I agree with rpa, if he's there to be had why not give it a shot?

SacKingZZZ wrote:Is the conversation completely restricted to a player that would be a part of our "core", or can it be extrapolated into taking contract status into account. Because some of the most realistic trades I can see based almost entirely for contract status to possibly dump a little more salary.

One player that might fit both areas is Troy Murphy. Would help on the boards and help spread the floor for Cousins and Evans.

Honestly, all the players I would like to add to this team are free agents this summer. Shane Battier, Tayshaun Prince, and David West.


I agree with most of this, Troy Murphy in particular is interesting as a one year rental.

As far as the original question goes I used to think Mayo, and Josh Smith were realistic, but Mayo is starting to look more and more like a troublemaker and I'm not sure we need a guy like that on this team. As far as Smith goes, I don't know maybe I'm crazy, but I can't understand how Atlanta is supposed to afford all the players they have now especially after giving Joe Johnson his huge contract. He'd be expensive (which likely makes him off limits to this team) but I think he'd fit in well.
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Re: One Realistic Trade Target 

Post#6 » by dozencousins » Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:52 pm

SacKingZZZ wrote:Is the conversation completely restricted to a player that would be a part of our "core", or can it be extrapolated into taking contract status into account. Because some of the most realistic trades I can see based almost entirely for contract status to possibly dump a little more salary.

One player that might fit both areas is Troy Murphy. Would help on the boards and help spread the floor for Cousins and Evans.

Honestly, all the players I would like to add to this team are free agents this summer. Shane Battier, Tayshaun Prince, and David West.


As far as trading for Murphy its not to realistic unless the Nets would be trading Murphy & a filler for DALY wich makes zero sense .
Beno & Cisco would have to be dealt in order to get Murphy then and the Nets would not need either especially Beno just see D.Harris & as mentioned they have Morrow .
No way I would trade J.Thompson , Landry or Casspi to get him so who do we trade .
The answer is nobody Murphy makes no sense .

If the Thunder wanted to trade J.Green & expirings for Daly I would do that & thats somewhat realistic considering OKL really wants a really good big .
Another 2 types of deals I can see done by the Kings solely based on the fact the Kings are said to be willing to trade Daly but only without adding salary are :

A. Daly & Cisco for Y.Ming to save the 8.8 million he has for him + the additional 5.4 million on Garcia's contract to free up more money for next season .
B. Daly & Cisco for M.Redd the only thing we save their is dumping Cisco's contract in terms of savings but it makes sense if the Kings want to dump his contract .

Guys alot of us love Cisco's heart & play as well as leadership & yes we would miss that in the last 3 years Cisco has been injured at least 3 times he is to injury prone that coupled with the fact that he has 3 more years under contract we dont need to risk having him on the bench all the time hurt if we find a deal Cisco will be gone at the deadline .
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Re: One Realistic Trade Target 

Post#7 » by The Beam King » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:44 pm

Aaron Brooks. He's falling out of the rotation in Houston through his shooting slump and is due up to be an RFA. With his dimunitive size and shooting skill-set he's a poor fit next to Martin in the backcourt. I bet Brooks could be had by the deadline.
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Post#8 » by Sacramento_King » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:15 pm

I still like Courtney Lee and Brooks from the Rox. Lee is a guy who I think is a good fit cause he can hit the outside shot, attack, and is big. Another guy falling out of the rotation it seems in Houston. Brooks plays the point and can stroke the outside shot.
I also like Azubuike in New York. Similar to Lee and his contract is partially covered by insurance. Still working back from knee surgery so could be a good time to get him and test the goods.
Chauncey would be perfect if we were that one guy away but this year is a bust thus far. He could be a good addition next year though if we don;t find the ideal backcourt mate. He could teach some tricks to Evans.
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Post#9 » by RIPskaterdude » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:38 pm

If Melo bolts either by trade (this season) or at the end of the season by FA, I could see the Kings making a play for Mr. Big Shot in the offseason. No real point to trade for him now, but I think he would be the perfect PG to play with either Beno or Evans.
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Post#10 » by The Beam King » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:50 pm

Sacramento_King wrote:I still like Courtney Lee and Brooks from the Rox. Lee is a guy who I think is a good fit cause he can hit the outside shot, attack, and is big. Another guy falling out of the rotation it seems in Houston. Brooks plays the point and can stroke the outside shot.
I also like Azubuike in New York. Similar to Lee and his contract is partially covered by insurance. Still working back from knee surgery so could be a good time to get him and test the goods.
Chauncey would be perfect if we were that one guy away but this year is a bust thus far. He could be a good addition next year though if we don;t find the ideal backcourt mate. He could teach some tricks to Evans.


We're on the same wavelength in terms of Guards we'd like to see added. Add Arron Afflalo to the list. If Denver nabs Landry Fields in a Melo deal, I think Afflalo instantly becomes available to us this summer in Free Agency(barring a lockout).
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Post#11 » by The Beam King » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:51 pm

Also, Kyrie Irving should make the list.
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Post#12 » by RIPskaterdude » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:52 pm

If Melo bolts, I think we'll have to overpay for Afflalo. Denver fans like him alot. We'd have to front load the deal a la Matthews/Portland.
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Post#13 » by pillwenney » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:54 pm

xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:If Melo bolts either by trade (this season) or at the end of the season by FA, I could see the Kings making a play for Mr. Big Shot in the offseason. No real point to trade for him now, but I think he would be the perfect PG to play with either Beno or Evans.


I don't know. First off, generally speaking, especially when a guy probably won't want to play for you in the first place, you have a much better shot of having him stay around if you get him traded to your team in the first place. Just as an example, Webber never would have initially signed here. But after he was traded and had to play here, he got used to the idea. You can find other examples of this.

But like I've been saying for a while now, I'm 100% behind going after Chauncey. Also if we trade for him now, the last year of his deal is unguaranteed. So we can actually just guarantee the last year of that contract. We get 1 1/2 years of Chauncey and all that he brings, and maybe don't have to sign him to a long term deal.

And just to rehash some of the things I've said in the past, he not only would be a perfect fit with this team in terms of X's and O's (a floor general that's a real threat from 3 and isn't ball dominant), but if you were to quantify veteran leadership and somehow put a number on it, I think Chauncey would lead the league.

I just think he'd be so valuable here. I'd definitely overpay to trade for him now. JT/Donte/cap space? Sign me up. That immediate cap space is something that only Minnesota can also offer right now, and I don't think they would.
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Re: One Realistic Trade Target 

Post#14 » by RIPskaterdude » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:01 pm

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xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:If Melo bolts either by trade (this season) or at the end of the season by FA, I could see the Kings making a play for Mr. Big Shot in the offseason. No real point to trade for him now, but I think he would be the perfect PG to play with either Beno or Evans.


I don't know. First off, generally speaking, especially when a guy probably won't want to play for you in the first place, you have a much better shot of having him stay around if you get him traded to your team in the first place. Just as an example, Webber never would have initially signed here. But after he was traded and had to play here, he got used to the idea. You can find other examples of this.

But like I've been saying for a while now, I'm 100% behind going after Chauncey. Also if we trade for him now, the last year of his deal is unguaranteed. So we can actually just guarantee the last year of that contract. We get 1 1/2 years of Chauncey and all that he brings, and maybe don't have to sign him to a long term deal.

And just to rehash some of the things I've said in the past, he not only would be a perfect fit with this team in terms of X's and O's (a floor general that's a real threat from 3 and isn't ball dominant), but if you were to quantify veteran leadership and somehow put a number on it, I think Chauncey would lead the league.

I just think he'd be so valuable here. I'd definitely overpay to trade for him now. JT/Donte/cap space? Sign me up. That immediate cap space is something that only Minnesota can also offer right now, and I don't think they would.


Agreed with everyone above, but wouldn't trading JT pretty much put all of our eggs in re-signing Landry? Or would we just look to target a PF in the draft then?
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Post#15 » by pillwenney » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:46 pm

I like JT, but he's replaceable. It would probably make it more likely that we would look to re-sign Landry, but if we didn't, it wouldn't be the end of the world.
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Post#16 » by Nicky Nix Nook » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:40 pm

mitchweber wrote:I like JT, but he's replaceable. It would probably make it more likely that we would look to re-sign Landry, but if we didn't, it wouldn't be the end of the world.


I love JT. He's one of those guys that brings it every night, even if his numbers aren't spectacular. The dude has heart, no question. Now with that said, I tend to agree with you (reluctantly). I think people have forgotten how solid Jackson has looked in limited minutes. Now, by no means am I saying that he is even close to being our future PF, but I am saying that he can be serviceable when given minutes and isn't too far off JT's production.

Or to put it simply, D Block isn't that much of a downgrade from JT. And that's not an insult to JT but more of a compliment to Jackson who I think is a little overlooked.
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Post#17 » by longfellow44 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:47 am

^^i dont disagree with you at all. Which is why i think its ok to lose both landry and dalembert. It would increase both thompson and jacksons role with the team and give whiteside garbage minutes.

I would like to see the kings target george hill. I think we could get him for something like greene and landry. His skill set would be a great compliment to our team with his shooting and defense.
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Post#18 » by SacKingZZZ » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:54 am

Hate to lose Daly, but I don't know if it makes sense to re-sign him to possibly be a backup and for the kind of money he'll want.
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Post#19 » by deadenddude » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:34 am

LaMarcus Aldridge. Not sure how realistic it is but if it was possible I'd trade anyone barring Evans/Cousins to get him. The Blazers are over the cap and may be going into rebuild mode with all the injuries so taking on Dalembert's expiring would be big for them. if Dalembert, Greene, Landry, and this years 1st round pick would get it done, I'd do it in a heartbeat. A big 3 of Cousins/Evans/Aldridge could be scary for years to come.
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Post#20 » by RIPskaterdude » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:42 am

With their injury problems, Aldridge is the only thing left for Blazer fans to be proud of. That being said, he's not going anywhere.
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