Artest to the bench

Biohazard · Post #1 » by **Biohazard** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:00 am

Is there any question at this point..the excuse earlier in the season was Barnes was getting his minutes now what excuse is there? PJ better do something quick here imho :roll:

lakersdynasty · Post #2 » by **lakersdynasty** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:06 am

who are we gonna put now? luke? i would give little ariza some minutes, but its PJ....

chefy · Post #3 » by **chefy** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:10 am

nah...I say we give him a lil more touch on offense...another way of playing defense is making your man play defense/make him work. just look at his past games, hes more effective when hes also involve on offense. put him in the post more..worse thing that could happen is he gets fouled.

lakersdynasty · Post #4 » by **lakersdynasty** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:11 am

i guess he tried that today, to give paulina some work, but the result was 1-10 fg

Patterns · Post #5 » by **Patterns** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:40 am

Biohazard wrote:Is there any question at this point..the excuse earlier in the season was Barnes was getting his minutes now what excuse is there? PJ better do something quick here imho

And have Luke start?

chefy · Post #6 » by **chefy** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:47 am

lakersdynasty wrote:i guess he tried that today, to give paulina some work, but the result was 1-10 fg

there is a difference when you're actually set up on offense/a play is draw for you vs. shots that you take because you haven't taken a shot yet. plus phil is doing a bad job overplaying luke.

Biohazard · Post #7 » by **Biohazard** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:51 am

Give Odom his spot..There is no one else.

Jetset · Post #8 » by **Jetset** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:55 am

PG: Fisher, Blake
SG: Bryant, Brown
SF: Luke, Artest
PF: Gasol, Caracter
C: Bynum, Ratliff

Eww...

captaincrunk · Post #9 » by **captaincrunk** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:05 am

Artest is the starting SF. That's just the best option.

laduane1 · Post #10 » by **laduane1** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:05 am

Well there needs to be work done on the team in practice. Ron better wake up or he might be on the bench when he should be needed.

lakersdynasty · Post #11 » by **lakersdynasty** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:12 am

PJ never played lamar as sf with this team, a try here and there but nothing real, it´s not gonna be now that he will change his mind, ron got to wake the **** up and play with passion like last season

laduane1 · Post #12 » by **laduane1** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:58 am

Just waiting for the trade Ron Artest rumors to start popping up...Put Walton in and get something better and I would say yes.

AceFresh · Post #13 » by **AceFresh** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:38 am

Having Barnes today would've done wonders (esp. when Paulina heated up)

Anyways, benching ron would make the situation worse IMO.
He's been doing better w/ more mins - so only situations I see is hope as a team we collectively just start playing better (more specifically to 1 and 3 spot) or we look for deals to move Ron for an athletic wing.

Despite his not so good play, the MLE for a player of Ron's caliber is still a good deal, IMO.

DEEP3CL · Post #14 » by **DEEP3CL** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:06 am

chefy wrote:nah...I say we give him a lil more touch on offense...another way of playing defense is making your man play defense/make him work. just look at his past games, hes more effective when hes also involve on offense. put him in the post more..worse thing that could happen is he gets fouled.

^This......chefy is on point. Ron is better when he's engaged offensively, yet we don't run him into the post, we don't ISO him basically we don't utilize him in this offense at all. Hell at this point though our stuff is broken, because when guys are going all over wanting changes here and there....something is wrong.

laduane1 · Post #15 » by **laduane1** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:04 am

Ron sold his championship ring. Wonder was that a great idea. He might never get another one..

Imadogg · Post #16 » by **Imadogg** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:08 am

I can't believe he's this bad on both ends.

dub81 · Post #17 » by **dub81** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:07 am

The Lakers are not playing to his strength. He needs to post up more. That's where he's at his best.

Plus I think Artest played good D against Paul Pierce. He was hot. Paul just made some tough ass shots. Artest was always in his face.

Imadogg · Post #18 » by **Imadogg** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:48 am

dub81 wrote:Plus I think Artest played good D against Paul Pierce. He was hot. Paul just made some tough ass shots. Artest was always in his face.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej0cQ6GcaTQ[/youtube]

Looks like Ron was lost on half/most those plays... He had like 1-2 shots with a hand in his face.

Post #19 » by **Slava** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:10 pm

If he can't get his shots to fall with Kobe, Pau and Bynum on the floor, he isn't doing any better playing with Shannon Brown and Blake.

The Skyhook · Post #20 » by **The Skyhook** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:24 pm

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:If he can't get his shots to fall with Kobe, Pau and Bynum on the floor, he isn't doing any better playing with Shannon Brown and Blake.

And thats why every time he keeps missing the idea of still having Trevor pops into my head. Not like we can change it now but watching Ron is frustrating at times.