Carmelo Anthony Thread (Denver Finalizes Deal With Knicks)

[Shark]

I hope we at least have a half season like we did in 99, it would suck if the whole season was canceled and then on top of that the NFL is headed for the same thing.

Yeah that would suck so much its not even funny.

[Pugsley_2491]

Can we just go ahead and lock this thread now?

[reedhopps]

I kinda feel bad for the nets if they give up picks, talent, and cap space to just have a star in melo..a decent player in Lopez, an old fogey like Rip...and well no PG, depth, or young talent....

I feel bad for the Knicks for having nobody good to trade and having to watch their cross river rival, the Nets, land the player they covet so much. Actually I dont really feel bad about that at all

WOW this just made my Day as a knicks fan....LOL

Sorry I did not come on here to talk crap, I just came on to talk about the nets other options now to improve their team.

[reedhopps]

The Nuggets are screwed!!!!!! Haha, they are going to scramble like crazy and Melo is going to be pissed! Finally, the Nets wised up. That stigma of pushing us around will be gone soon. Back to smart rebuilding yay!

Plus, who is to say that if we do smaller deals, build a quality team, and Melo does become a free agent, he doesn't come to us at a much cheaper price than the extension granted.

Bye Leon Rose.
Bye World Wide Wes.
Bye Josh Kroenke.
Bye Masai.

You're not re-tooling off of us.

Favors, become the beast that you're ready to be.

You do realize the joke is on NJ and Denver. Denver knew they could never trade Melo to NJ because he did not want to go. The joke will only be on denver if they finally give in and trade him to NY for crap and that deal you were all talking about isn't accurate. Galo/Chandler/Curry picks.....He has made it clear he will not trade chandler and galo...it would be Galo/Fields/Curry and two 1st rounders. Aparently Donnie is going to make an offer very soon and leave it at that. Take it or leave it.

[The Consiglieri]

How would the joke being on New Jersey? Sure they didn't get their marquee name to put on their soon to be new arena, but who cares, the trade on offer or rumored to be, was horrific for New Jersey. Offering loads of building block draft picks, a potential future franchise player prospect in Favors with the potential to have more upside than Anthony, and on a good contract for two more years, and more players potentially who could garner a good return in piece meal trades like Harris.

It was an asinine, destroy your franchise, Herschel Walker type short sighted move, and they just avoided it. There is no joke on them, pulling out of this, saves them from 5-7 years of no more than 30-45 wins and never being a difference maker in the east. There is no guarantee that things will fall right w/o the trade, but there is the potential to build a powerhouse, and succeed, there was no potential for that if the trade had gone through, just mediocrity. It's a great thing for them, that they didnt pull the trigger. Whether Melo only played out the contract or stuck around, it was going to be horrible otherwise.

[jman3134]

All I have to say is that I am excited that this trade didn't go through. At least now, the Nets don't have to try to win now (and without question fail at doing so). For as much as Melo didn't want to go to New Jersey, Nets fans don't want him either.

[ecuhus1981]

It seems the Melo talk has finally quieted down...

SO, WHO'S INTERESTED IN A MELO TRADE?

Seriously, I'm curious to hear feedback from other Nets fans on this deal. Some in the NBA feel that Prokhorov is posturing, and that NJN will come back to the trade table closer to the deadline. If so, would you be in favor of an all-out win-now bid like this one?

When Nyet Means Da

Please reply in the linked porposal. Thanks.

[vincecarter4pres]

Who hired you? Donnie Walsh? James Dolan? Come clean while you still have a chance!

[ecuhus1981]

^

Nobody hired me, vc4p, but there's still time to jump on the Roy bandwagon, if you don't like this deal... :mwahahahaha:

[vincecarter4pres]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... thony.html

Asked about the allure of Brooklyn - where the Nets are scheduled to move for the 2012-13 season - Anthony seemed to agree with former Nets great Jason Kidd, who said last week it's tough to envision the team there until the arena is built.

"Everybody knows what that could be in the next couple years," Anthony said. "I don't really know how far along or where that situation is at as far as the building or when they're moving or anything like that."

God this guy is an epic tool.

He has basically admitted numerous times to reading the papers, watching sports media on TV and you know his agent is all over him like a fly on ****.

He doesn't know when they're moving or anything like that?



Obviously yet another dig by this sarcastic spoiled brat.

He's another Lebron to me, as in at the right price would love for him to be on this team, but will still hate this dude as a person his entire time here.

He's another role model for all the self-centered 15 to early 20 something year olds in this country that will say, "Nah that dude's the man, he's just doin' him."

[Shark]

Hold on Melo...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Barclays+Center+progression

[jeff1624]

Or:

http://www.barclayscenter.com/about/con ... date.shtml

[JoseRizal]

^^

[Netaman]

http://www.nesn.com/2011/01/nuggets-only-option-is-to-beg-mikhail-prokhorov-nets-to-make-carmelo-anthony-deal.html

The Nets have to love the rock Denver is between. Unless a new scenario materializes they are going to have to come back to us (e.g. Chicago says Noah is on the table or something like that).

Question for the board - when DEN comes back what is our offer?

My starting place would be to refuse to give up either of the good picks ('11 NJN or '12 GSW) unless Favors is off the table - goal being to get Melo without losing Favors. We are going to be lucky to win 30-35 games even with Melo therefore our pick is being sold only at a premium.

Under the pretense of keeping Favors/Lopez, I would give up any combination of picks/expiring contracts possible. I suppose this would be the maximum offer:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=4dt4yef

GSW '12 first, NJN '11 first, HOU '12 first
Harris
James
Hump
Troy (could potentially buy out for more $ savings)
Graham
$3 Mil

for

Melo
Billups
Balkman
S Williams

- DEN gets $7 mil in their pocket this year (counting cash in trade, lux tax savings, and pro-rating the remainder of players' salaries)

- Saves $19 mil against their cap in 2011-2012

- DEN acquires 2 young-ish starters (Harris could realistically be considered an upgrade over CB)

- Counting James, DEN acquires the equivalent of 4 first round picks, 2 of which are virtual locks to be top 18, and potentially lottery bound.

IMO that offer blows away the Knicks offer, blows away what the Celtics gave up for KG, and allows this team to realistically maintain enough assets to ascend.

Billups - Farmar
Morrow - Sasha
Melo - Outlaw
Favors - S. Williams
Lopez - Petro

[Rich Rane]

If they come back and it's near the deadline AND Prokhorov is willing to listen AND Melo's willing to sign an extension, I want Favors off the table in any trade scenario. Let Denver's front office learn from being too greedy. Until then, they could enjoy entertaining every other mediocre offer.

[vincecarter4pres]

http://www.nesn.com/2011/01/nuggets-only-option-is-to-beg-mikhail-prokhorov-nets-to-make-carmelo-anthony-deal.html

The Nets have to love the rock Denver is between. Unless a new scenario materializes they are going to have to come back to us (e.g. Chicago says Noah is on the table or something like that).

Question for the board - when DEN comes back what is our offer?

My starting place would be to refuse to give up either of the good picks ('11 NJN or '12 GSW) unless Favors is off the table - goal being to get Melo without losing Favors. We are going to be lucky to win 30-35 games even with Melo therefore our pick is being sold only at a premium.

Under the pretense of keeping Favors/Lopez, I would give up any combination of picks/expiring contracts possible. I suppose this would be the maximum offer:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=4dt4yef

GSW '12 first, NJN '11 first, HOU '12 first
Harris
James
Hump
Troy (could potentially buy out for more $ savings)
Graham
$3 Mil

for

Melo
Billups
Balkman
S Williams

- DEN gets $7 mil in their pocket this year (counting cash in trade, lux tax savings, and pro-rating the remainder of players' salaries)

- Saves $19 mil against their cap in 2011-2012

- DEN acquires 2 young-ish starters (Harris could realistically be considered an upgrade over CB)

- Counting James, DEN acquires the equivalent of 4 first round picks, 2 of which are virtual locks to be top 18, and potentially lottery bound.

IMO that offer blows away the Knicks offer, blows away what the Celtics gave up for KG, and allows this team to realistically maintain enough assets to ascend.

Billups - Farmar
Morrow - Sasha
Melo - Outlaw
Favors - S. Williams
Lopez - Petro

Love this deal, not sure if Denver would but I still want top 1 protection on the pick...

Fact is you're right, at this point they're going to be hard pressed to find any offer better then this, with the exception of if Chicago made Noah available like you said.

I would definitely throw in the Lakers pick and our 2nd as some final sweetener if needed.

It would depend on two things, do they value Gallo highly and is NY willing to part with him?

Actually make it 3 things, cause Billy may outbid himself again and start by offering Favors...

[jeff1624]

I understand when Knicks fans say that they wouldn't offer fair value for 'Melo since they are heavy favorites to land him if he becomes a free agent. What I don't understand is when they say that 'Melo isn't worth Chandler and Gallinari or Fields at all because they'd be crippling their starting 5. First of all Chandler is a free agent and if you re-sign him you can't sign Melo, so he should be included in all offers for 'Melo.. Unless Denver says no thanks. Gallinari is due for an extension and overall he's a average player at best. He's a player that nets you 25 one game.. then disappears for the next 5. Landry Fields is a solid role player that doesn't need the ball to be effective, ultimate team player.. but if you honestly believe he'll ever become a legit 1st, 2nd or 3rd option on a good team then you're kidding yourself. He's basically playing the same role Courtney Lee did in Orlando except he's a better rebounder and a worse defender and we all know what happened with Lee when he was forced into a bigger role.. he failed miserably.


Off topic, but it annoys the hell out of me.

[JoseRizal]

I agree that if ever Denver decides to deal with us again Favors should be off the table... But as VC4P said, NJ '11 1st should definitely be Top 1 protected...

[Preludepunk27]

Yeah I'm not even allowing Favors to go back into talks for Melo if I were the Nets unless it was a deal we just could not refuse. If we're keeping favors and giving up Harris/James/expirings/picks then I'm actually fine taking on salary as long as Harrington or Rip are in the deal.

I'll bend a little in what I"m taking on, but I'm they'd know they're getting a rediculous premium like the were in the previous deal.

Again though, I'm not making the call to Denver. I'm totally fine if they don't call us, but that's the ONLY way I enter talks again.

[Stone]

^^ Agreed.....I think we should walk away if Favors has to be included. The thing is will Denver bite if he's not included?