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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50 

Post#1301 » by Futureisnow » Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:00 am

Gregory151 wrote:@dempseypost: Melo: 'If I sit here and tell you I'm willing to lose $15-20 million, then I'll be lying to you.'

@dempseypost: Melo: 'If that's what it's going to take then so be it.'
6 minutes ago

@dempseypost: Melo cont.: 'But at the same time this has never been about money.'


The double speak is killing me. I'd rather the guy just said no comment. I read somewhere that he's trying to avoid becoming a villian like Lebron did, but attempting to appease two fanbases by being cryptic and contradictory isn't exactly helping.
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50 

Post#1302 » by Gregory151 » Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:04 am

Futureisnow wrote:
Gregory151 wrote:@dempseypost: Melo: 'If I sit here and tell you I'm willing to lose $15-20 million, then I'll be lying to you.'

@dempseypost: Melo: 'If that's what it's going to take then so be it.'
6 minutes ago

@dempseypost: Melo cont.: 'But at the same time this has never been about money.'


The double speak is killing me. I'd rather the guy just said no comment. I read somewhere that he's trying to avoid becoming a villian like Lebron did, but attempting to appease two fanbases by being cryptic and contradictory isn't exactly helping.


hm, i didnt see it that way... i saw it as him saying 'im not necessarily willing to lose that much money but if i have to i will because its not a decision thats based off money'.. pretty straight forward the way i see it
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50 

Post#1303 » by Futureisnow » Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:08 am

Gregory151 wrote:
Futureisnow wrote:
Gregory151 wrote:@dempseypost: Melo: 'If I sit here and tell you I'm willing to lose $15-20 million, then I'll be lying to you.'

@dempseypost: Melo: 'If that's what it's going to take then so be it.'
6 minutes ago

@dempseypost: Melo cont.: 'But at the same time this has never been about money.'


The double speak is killing me. I'd rather the guy just said no comment. I read somewhere that he's trying to avoid becoming a villian like Lebron did, but attempting to appease two fanbases by being cryptic and contradictory isn't exactly helping.


hm, i didnt see it that way... i saw it as him saying 'im not necessarily willing to lose that much money but if i have to i will because its not a decision thats based off money'.. pretty straight forward the way i see it


Okay. I re-read it and I agree with you now. My fault. I just got back from reading some posts on the Denver board so I guess I let The Rebel's ability to misinterpret words infect me. But yeah, I see what you mean now. Guess the guy is ours. It's just a question of when.
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50 

Post#1304 » by Justdatdude » Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:11 am

Gregory151 wrote:
Futureisnow wrote:
Gregory151 wrote:@dempseypost: Melo: 'If I sit here and tell you I'm willing to lose $15-20 million, then I'll be lying to you.'

@dempseypost: Melo: 'If that's what it's going to take then so be it.'
6 minutes ago

@dempseypost: Melo cont.: 'But at the same time this has never been about money.'


The double speak is killing me. I'd rather the guy just said no comment. I read somewhere that he's trying to avoid becoming a villian like Lebron did, but attempting to appease two fanbases by being cryptic and contradictory isn't exactly helping.


hm, i didnt see it that way... i saw it as him saying 'im not necessarily willing to lose that much money but if i have to i will because its not a decision thats based off money'.. pretty straight forward the way i see it


Exactly. He doesn't want to just give up 15-20 million dollars. No one would. But if he has to give up 20 million to go to the place he want to go, then he's willing to do it. Plain and simple.
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50 

Post#1305 » by ITGM » Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:17 am

Gregory151 wrote:ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Carmelo: "The CBA is in the back of my mind but as far as being afraid to play this [season] out, I’m not"
6 minutes ag
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Melo on NJ: "I really don’t know where that came from about how if I was going to come here that extension wasn’t going to get signed."
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50 

Post#1306 » by Knicker23 » Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:29 am

I read it pretty much the same... Melo wanting what he deserves doesn't make him all about the $ or willing to make the knicks 'blow up' their roster in order to get paid, just think he's talking pretty honestly about how yes, if he could get the extra 20 mill that would be nice...

That being said, I also think it means while he wants the money he should get, it's not enough to make him stay in Denver, or go to a team he is unhappy about....

20 mill ain't much to him i'm sure, but I don't think he's so commited to the Knicks that he's going to think 'i'll take a 20 mill pay cut plus keep myself in this situation for the remainder of the year just so the Knicks can hold onto a few players when I join them' ... I'd imagine he's more thinking 'I don't care whos on that roster, Amare and I would be fine' in his head...I think that's moot though because Denver will do some deal before all is said and done... it's not like he can say 'nahh i'll hold out for the Knicks and it'll be over with'... and tbh, I wouldn't expect the guy to do that.... a lot of Knicks fans would blame Melo for us making a deal this season for him, and I don't think that's all that fair.

I think the Knicks are in a fine position to deal for him giving up the least amount that they'd have to.
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Post#1307 » by seren » Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:45 am

There is a report that Kupchak is considering a trade in L.A. I wonder whether they would go after Melo for Bynum.
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50 

Post#1308 » by nyknicks2k2 » Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:47 am

ITGM wrote:
Gregory151 wrote:ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Carmelo: "The CBA is in the back of my mind but as far as being afraid to play this [season] out, I’m not"
6 minutes ag
:) :clap:

ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Melo on NJ: "I really don’t know where that came from about how if I was going to come here that extension wasn’t going to get signed."
6 minutes ago


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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50 

Post#1309 » by Gregory151 » Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:55 am

“The CBA is in the back of my mind,” Anthony said. “But as far as being afraid to play this out, I’m not. If that’s what it’s going to take, then so be it. I’m with that. I know in the back of my mind what the CBA is up for, what we’re up for dealing with the lockout, things like that. So as long as I know that, my decision will be my decision.”

Asked if he’d be willing to take the risk of passing on the extension and facing the unknown of post-lockout free agency, Anthony said, “Yeah, I mean whether it’s playing this year out and then going back to the drawing table, sitting down with Denver and trying to figure it out, or whether it’s to move on, I’m with that.”

“If I sit here and tell you I’m willing to lose $15 or $20 million, then I’d be lying to you,” Anthony said. “But at the same time, this has never been about the money. In my career so far, I think I’ve made enough money. Now I can focus on just trying to win a championship. That’s the only thing that’s on my plate and on my mind right now.”

Nothing has changed for Anthony, who all along has only considered signing a three-year, $65 million extension with the Knicks or Nuggets – though a person familiar with the strategy being employed by his agents at Creative Artists Agency recently told CBSSports.com that CAA has been consistent since the summer in advising the Nuggets that he won’t re-sign with them. As for Anthony himself, he refuted a previously published report that Knicks star Amar’e Stoudemire had recently texted him urging him to join forces in New York.

“I read that, that he supposedly texted me or something like that,” Anthony said. “I didn’t get it. I didn’t get that text.”

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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50 

Post#1310 » by Jay10 » Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:58 am

seren wrote:There is a report that Kupchak is considering a trade in L.A. I wonder whether they would go after Melo for Bynum.


they have to find someone to fill in once kobe retires
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Post#1311 » by mugzi » Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:00 am

The more I see this thing play out the less I want to deal with Denver. Donnie can probably clear 18 mil in cap space for the summer. Curry is 11 mil, if Turiaf opts out thats another 4 mil and Randolph being traded for a future 1st gives us another 2 mil in space....ok thats 17 mil there.....plus we lose Buikes deal which is another 3.3 mil thats a little over 20 mil in cap space.

What makes that tricky is if Turiaf doesnt opt out. Then Melo's sincerity is put to the test, will he sign for 15-16 mil his 1st season with annual raises?

To me this is a much better option than trading Chandler plus Gallo or Fields. This team with two out of those 3 is way better than having Melo with only 1 out of those 3. And to those of you that say its better to do the trade so we have the MLE and LLE, we dont even know if those will even be available with the new CBA thats going to be negotiated. Plus Gallo or Fields are both better than anyone whod be willing to sign 4 the MLE anyway.
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Post#1312 » by NYK0605 » Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:01 am

seren wrote:There is a report that Kupchak is considering a trade in L.A. I wonder whether they would go after Melo for Bynum.

Lakers are sleepers in this IMO.

Denver wants a big too. Melo and Kobe? Eh, not sure how that would work. I could defintely see Melo extended with LA but not sure how they would matchup the salaries to work.
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50 

Post#1313 » by Pharmcat » Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:12 am

mugzi wrote:The more I see this thing play out the less I want to deal with Denver. Donnie can probably clear 18 mil in cap space for the summer. Curry is 11 mil, if Turiaf opts out thats another 4 mil and Randolph being traded for a future 1st gives us another 2 mil in space....ok thats 17 mil there.....plus we lose Buikes deal which is another 3.3 mil thats a little over 20 mil in cap space.

What makes that tricky is if Turiaf doesnt opt out. Then Melo's sincerity is put to the test, will he sign for 15-16 mil his 1st season with annual raises?

To me this is a much better option than trading Chandler plus Gallo or Fields. This team with two out of those 3 is way better than having Melo with only 1 out of those 3. And to those of you that say its better to do the trade so we have the MLE and LLE, we dont even know if those will even be available with the new CBA thats going to be negotiated. Plus Gallo or Fields are both better than anyone whod be willing to sign 4 the MLE anyway.


i doubt turiaf is backing out of 4.5 guaranteed dollars, so he has to get traded, as the team cannot be banking on a 'hoping' scenario come summer time

agreed, curry, azu get renounced

trade AR

big sticking point is the chandler QO, Im pretty sure there wont be enough in the cap to keep him and sign melo at max level....remember his QO is higher than 6 mill that counts against the cap

so we already are at losing chandler/ar/turiaf, + the mle/lle + probably trade the 1st rd pick to conserve max space as possible

considering that, making a deal now isnt that much harder to swallow

(what your post left out is the raises amare and gallo , etc. are getting next year, that chews away space too)
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Post#1314 » by Jay10 » Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:21 am

Gregory151 wrote:“The CBA is in the back of my mind,” Anthony said. “But as far as being afraid to play this out, I’m not. If that’s what it’s going to take, then so be it. I’m with that. I know in the back of my mind what the CBA is up for, what we’re up for dealing with the lockout, things like that. So as long as I know that, my decision will be my decision.”

Asked if he’d be willing to take the risk of passing on the extension and facing the unknown of post-lockout free agency, Anthony said, “Yeah, I mean whether it’s playing this year out and then going back to the drawing table, sitting down with Denver and trying to figure it out, or whether it’s to move on, I’m with that.”

“If I sit here and tell you I’m willing to lose $15 or $20 million, then I’d be lying to you,” Anthony said. “But at the same time, this has never been about the money. In my career so far, I think I’ve made enough money. Now I can focus on just trying to win a championship. That’s the only thing that’s on my plate and on my mind right now.”

Nothing has changed for Anthony, who all along has only considered signing a three-year, $65 million extension with the Knicks or Nuggets – though a person familiar with the strategy being employed by his agents at Creative Artists Agency recently told CBSSports.com that CAA has been consistent since the summer in advising the Nuggets that he won’t re-sign with them. As for Anthony himself, he refuted a previously published report that Knicks star Amar’e Stoudemire had recently texted him urging him to join forces in New York.

“I read that, that he supposedly texted me or something like that,” Anthony said. “I didn’t get it. I didn’t get that text.”

LOL

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/m ... 3/27330708


person familiar with the strategy = carmelo's manager that tweeted during the heat vs knicks game
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Post#1315 » by AllanHoustonFan » Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:23 am

Jay10 wrote:
Gregory151 wrote:“The CBA is in the back of my mind,” Anthony said. “But as far as being afraid to play this out, I’m not. If that’s what it’s going to take, then so be it. I’m with that. I know in the back of my mind what the CBA is up for, what we’re up for dealing with the lockout, things like that. So as long as I know that, my decision will be my decision.”

Asked if he’d be willing to take the risk of passing on the extension and facing the unknown of post-lockout free agency, Anthony said, “Yeah, I mean whether it’s playing this year out and then going back to the drawing table, sitting down with Denver and trying to figure it out, or whether it’s to move on, I’m with that.”

“If I sit here and tell you I’m willing to lose $15 or $20 million, then I’d be lying to you,” Anthony said. “But at the same time, this has never been about the money. In my career so far, I think I’ve made enough money. Now I can focus on just trying to win a championship. That’s the only thing that’s on my plate and on my mind right now.”

Nothing has changed for Anthony, who all along has only considered signing a three-year, $65 million extension with the Knicks or Nuggets – though a person familiar with the strategy being employed by his agents at Creative Artists Agency recently told CBSSports.com that CAA has been consistent since the summer in advising the Nuggets that he won’t re-sign with them. As for Anthony himself, he refuted a previously published report that Knicks star Amar’e Stoudemire had recently texted him urging him to join forces in New York.

“I read that, that he supposedly texted me or something like that,” Anthony said. “I didn’t get it. I didn’t get that text.”

LOL

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/m ... 3/27330708


person familiar with the strategy = carmelo's manager that tweeted during the heat vs knicks game


you maybe right about that
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Post#1316 » by aggo » Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:23 am

Gregory151 wrote:“The CBA is in the back of my mind,” Anthony said. “But as far as being afraid to play this out, I’m not. If that’s what it’s going to take, then so be it. I’m with that. I know in the back of my mind what the CBA is up for, what we’re up for dealing with the lockout, things like that. So as long as I know that, my decision will be my decision.”

Asked if he’d be willing to take the risk of passing on the extension and facing the unknown of post-lockout free agency, Anthony said, “Yeah, I mean whether it’s playing this year out and then going back to the drawing table, sitting down with Denver and trying to figure it out, or whether it’s to move on, I’m with that.”

“If I sit here and tell you I’m willing to lose $15 or $20 million, then I’d be lying to you,” Anthony said. “But at the same time, this has never been about the money. In my career so far, I think I’ve made enough money. Now I can focus on just trying to win a championship. That’s the only thing that’s on my plate and on my mind right now.”


Nothing has changed for Anthony, who all along has only considered signing a three-year, $65 million extension with the Knicks or Nuggets – though a person familiar with the strategy being employed by his agents at Creative Artists Agency recently told CBSSports.com that CAA has been consistent since the summer in advising the Nuggets that he won’t re-sign with them. As for Anthony himself, he refuted a previously published report that Knicks star Amar’e Stoudemire had recently texted him urging him to join forces in New York.

“I read that, that he supposedly texted me or something like that,” Anthony said. “I didn’t get it. I didn’t get that text.”

LOL

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/m ... 3/27330708


DEN's roster is in a state of flux. That team is getting blown up with our without Melo... he doesnt want to stay. He wont sign anywhere where has to be the lone man. He wont sign where there isnt proven talent.

shots fired imo.

He's sending a message to the DEN FO. Trade me or fix this roster so that we can contend. He's sticking to his guns and after all this talk I cannot imagine him blinking first and signing an extension in DEN when he knows that team isnt anywhere near being ready to contend..
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50 

Post#1317 » by Jay10 » Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:30 am

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
Jay10 wrote:
Gregory151 wrote:“The CBA is in the back of my mind,” Anthony said. “But as far as being afraid to play this out, I’m not. If that’s what it’s going to take, then so be it. I’m with that. I know in the back of my mind what the CBA is up for, what we’re up for dealing with the lockout, things like that. So as long as I know that, my decision will be my decision.”

Asked if he’d be willing to take the risk of passing on the extension and facing the unknown of post-lockout free agency, Anthony said, “Yeah, I mean whether it’s playing this year out and then going back to the drawing table, sitting down with Denver and trying to figure it out, or whether it’s to move on, I’m with that.”

“If I sit here and tell you I’m willing to lose $15 or $20 million, then I’d be lying to you,” Anthony said. “But at the same time, this has never been about the money. In my career so far, I think I’ve made enough money. Now I can focus on just trying to win a championship. That’s the only thing that’s on my plate and on my mind right now.”

Nothing has changed for Anthony, who all along has only considered signing a three-year, $65 million extension with the Knicks or Nuggets – though a person familiar with the strategy being employed by his agents at Creative Artists Agency recently told CBSSports.com that CAA has been consistent since the summer in advising the Nuggets that he won’t re-sign with them. As for Anthony himself, he refuted a previously published report that Knicks star Amar’e Stoudemire had recently texted him urging him to join forces in New York.

“I read that, that he supposedly texted me or something like that,” Anthony said. “I didn’t get it. I didn’t get that text.”

LOL

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/m ... 3/27330708


person familiar with the strategy = carmelo's manager that tweeted during the heat vs knicks game


you maybe right about that


Ian O'Connor added this piece to the story about landry fields raising his value, and how hard it is going to be to let some of the players go in a trade for carmelo.

" 'Carmelo Anthony's manager and adviser, Robert "Bay" Frazier, took in Heat-Knicks and tweeted this about his Garden appearance: "Crazy in here!' "

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/ ... id=6067355

soon after berger posted an article presenting the manager as "anonymous", stating that the nets are out of it for good.
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Post#1318 » by Li'l Penny » Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:37 am

NYK0605 wrote:Melo and Kobe? Eh, not sure how that would work.

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Post#1319 » by Future Soldier » Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:38 am

I doubt it. Gasol at the 5 will not work against Boston, or even San Antonio. Bynum's size and rebounding will come up huge in the playoffs.
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NYK0605 wrote:Melo and Kobe? Eh, not sure how that would work.


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