Andrew Bogut's Trade Value

Post #21 » by **moocow007** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 2:44 pm

In hindsight, worst pick of alltime has to be Sam Bowie. Sure knee problems derailed Bowie but anytime you had the chance to get the GOAT and miss its bad. And every picks relative value is based on hindsight.

PS: Worst franchise derailing trade of all time? The Knicks trading Patrick Ewing for a gaggle of long term crap that they then flipped for even longer term crap that set them back for more than a decade. So no not picking on Blazers.

As far as Boguts trade value? Id say damn high. Ultra talented 7 footers that can produce big on both ends dont grow on trees.

LarsV8 · Post #22 » by **LarsV8** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 4:04 pm

Rockets could relieve you of the bad contracts of CM and DG while throwing in maybe one average prospect.

Quackenboss · Post #23 » by **Quackenboss** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 4:41 pm

AussieBuck wrote:Bucks board is more pro-Curry.

Curry and ?
Ibaka, Harden, 1st
Toronto unprotected 1st and ? (if the trade happens after the season ends)

Bucks fans want to rebuild basically.

Curry for Bogut?

Sold.

sotrak1000 · Post #24 » by **sotrak1000** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 4:49 pm

nate33 wrote:McGee + WAS unprotected 1st + expiring contracts for Bogut?

You get a young center with upside plus a top 5 pick. I'd offer more, but Bogut is playing pretty poorly this year (TS% of .488, eww) and he has a bad injury history.

If I were the Bucks I would definitely do this...if the opportunity to rebuild is what we want this would definitely give us that

Quackenboss · Post #25 » by **Quackenboss** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 4:54 pm

shrink wrote:
Coxy wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Bucks board is more pro-Curry.

Curry and ?

You guys have Jennings, why would you want Curry?

I'd be curious about:

Bogut + Jennings for Curry + ???

Bogut, Jennings for Curry, Udoh, Biedrins? Biedrins is emerging from his funk, but I still don't think that's enough.

SalemStoner · Post #26 » by **SalemStoner** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 5:30 pm

I'd personally be willing to offer something built around Oden and either Batum or Mathews for Bogut.

moss_is_1 · Post #27 » by **moss_is_1** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 7:05 pm

whatever you want outside Love/Rubio.

NJD · Post #28 » by **NJD** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 9:12 pm

Lopez + Harris+ James+ GSW 1st + HOU 1st + LAL 1st

FOR

Bogut + Jennings + Mil 1st

trwi7 · Post #29 » by **trwi7** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 9:22 pm

NJD wrote:Lopez + Harris+ James+ GSW 1st + HOU 1st + LAL 1st

FOR

Bogut + Jennings + Mil 1st

No. That's awful.

HomieOmey · Post #30 » by **HomieOmey** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 9:25 pm

Unprotected 1st, Reggie Evans, Dorsey and Kleiza for Bogut
+
Trade exception for Gooden

(Basically Gooden for Kleiza and expirings + top 5 pick for Bogut).

Post #31 » by **Trader_Joe** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 9:33 pm

NJD wrote:Lopez + Harris+ James+ GSW 1st + HOU 1st + LAL 1st

FOR

Bogut + Jennings + Mil 1st

This makes no sense for either team.
You take win now PG in his prime and ship him along with a 22 y/o C, a few years from his prime to a team for their win now C, and their PG a few years from their prime.
The picks just further complicate things and are unnecessary.

eitanr · Post #32 » by **eitanr** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 10:13 pm

I think to the Lakers for Bynum and stuff would be a start...the question is what stuff

If Milwuakee has some nasty deals they want to clear, throw them with Bogut and get back Bynum and some cap space...is that even possible?

Post #33 » by **moocow007** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 10:26 pm

Ok lets not get carried away with Boguts value either.

Ducksplatt · Post #34 » by **Ducksplatt** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 11:22 pm

HomieOmey wrote:Unprotected 1st, Reggie Evans, Dorsey and Kleiza for Bogut
+
Trade exception for Gooden

(Basically Gooden for Kleiza and expirings + top 5 pick for Bogut).

I think that is a bit too much for Bogut (taking on Gooden's long term deal).

The unprotected helps them build to the future.
And if the Raps are taking on long term salary it would have to be more of a position of need (they have too many PF's as it is)...like a Maggette or Salmons.

I think the unprotected 1st (which looks like it is going to be top 3) plus J Wright (exp) and J Dorsey (exp) for Bogut.

Quite frankly, they have too many bloated contracts to build for the future. I think they would be crazy to get rid of a true C.

N.O.R.E. · Post #35 » by **N.O.R.E.** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 11:38 pm

I think S. Curry, Gadz's EC and Charlie Bell for Bogut and a minor filler would work.

Piecake · Post #36 » by **Piecake** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 11:42 pm

I would love to have Bogut on the Twolves. Pretty much everything is on the table except Love. Rubio is definitely on the table as well if we draft Irving(please please please). If we can't get Irving, then I'd offer our 2011 first in the package.

looking at some of your contracts in the espn trade checker, I have to wonder what your GM was smoking when he offered some of these deals, yikes. So, if you want to dump one of those nasty things, the assets you get back arent going to be all that impressive.

AussieBuck · Post #37 » by **AussieBuck** » Fri Feb 4, 2011 12:20 am

LarsV8 wrote:Rockets could relieve you of the bad contracts of CM and DG while throwing in maybe one average prospect.

Makes sense but is too depressing IMO.

HomieOmey wrote:Unprotected 1st, Reggie Evans, Dorsey and Kleiza for Bogut
+
Trade exception for Gooden

(Basically Gooden for Kleiza and expirings + top 5 pick for Bogut).

Not bad as long as it's done after the season ends. We don't want Bogut making the pick worse.

moocow007 wrote:Ok lets not get carried away with Boguts value either.

Is this in reference to Bynum?

magpies · Post #38 » by **magpies** » Fri Feb 4, 2011 12:23 am

Wolverine wrote:Anything from Utah except Deron

would love to see Deron and Bogut on the same team

babyjax13 · Post #39 » by **babyjax13** » Fri Feb 4, 2011 12:28 am

Millsap+Miles+???

Zarko · Post #40 » by **Zarko** » Fri Feb 4, 2011 12:45 am

Toronto would give up almost anything outside of Derozan and Bargnani for Bogut. We would probably take on Gooden too.