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Post#1 » by bango_the_buck » Thu Feb 3, 2011 6:22 pm

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Post#2 » by LUKE23 » Thu Feb 3, 2011 6:25 pm

I can see the argument for BB to be honest. Nobody outside of NE thought that team would be where they were at the end of the regular season this year. They revamped a ton of their team.

I think MM deserves credit for his player development and motivational abilities, but I still think he's no better than average as a gameday adjustment guy. I know I might be in the minority on that one.
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Re: Belichick wins coach of the year, McCarthy not a single vote 

Post#3 » by bango_the_buck » Thu Feb 3, 2011 6:27 pm

I'm not saying Belichick doesn't deserve it, but McCarthy doesn't get a single vote!? That's a travesty...
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Post#4 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Thu Feb 3, 2011 6:30 pm

Yeah MM deserves a vote for doing what he did with the most injured team in the league. You could even argue he deserves a vote based on the way he prepared Flynn and the rest of the team going into NE.
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Re: Belichick wins coach of the year, McCarthy not a single vote 

Post#5 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Feb 3, 2011 6:34 pm

Don't forget the voting is done before the playoffs start.
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Post#6 » by LUKE23 » Thu Feb 3, 2011 6:35 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Don't forget the voting is done before the playoffs start.


Another thing I can't stand about all these awards. Playoffs should count in all of them outside of the Pro Bowl, IMO.
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Post#7 » by bango_the_buck » Thu Feb 3, 2011 6:38 pm

Well, hopefully all the disrespect with the post-season awards so far (Rodgers, Matthews, and McCarthy all striking out) will just provide extra motivation for the players to go out and get the job done on Sunday...
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Post#8 » by JayMKE » Thu Feb 3, 2011 6:39 pm

I don't have a problem with this.
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Post#9 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Thu Feb 3, 2011 6:42 pm

On a related note... Belichick has to find some offensive weapons for Brady. I don't think they can win a Super Bowl with their pedestrian line up of skilled players (Welker, Woodhead, couple of TEs, Branch etc.). I know Moss didn't do anything after he left NE, but he was a guy that at least made defenses worry, they need to find another guy like that. The fact that their defense is only solid, makes the lack of weapons that much worse.
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Post#10 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Thu Feb 3, 2011 9:59 pm

No surprise, Jim Rome thinks Mike McCarthy was the obvious choice for Coach of the Year. He LOVES the Packers.
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Post#11 » by BucksRuleAll22 » Thu Feb 3, 2011 10:12 pm

MM is one of the best coaches pre game getting a team ready. On the field I think hes one of the worst coaches in the NFL and I will put just about every loss on him not the players this year. MM and his coaching chokes away almost every game. Eagles game should of never came down to the wire and when it did the Packers should of lost. Vick wins that game 9 out of 10 times. Same goes with the Bears game.

I bet if you switch MM with any top 10 coach in the NFL this team goes 13-3 with all the injurys still. We miss Grant, and Finely. Every other player is a upgrade.

Big ups to TT and MM getting them prepared. But on the field MM is one of the last coaches I would want.
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Post#12 » by rilamann » Thu Feb 3, 2011 10:25 pm

Can't complain about MM in the playoffs obviously but based on regular season I don't really have a problem with him not getting any votes.

Injuries or not this team should have been better than 10-6 in the regular season and shouldn't have needed to win their final 2 games in the reg season to get the #6 seed.

Now the team has finally woke up and plays good smart football with swagger and I give MM a lot of credit for that,but it should have happened sooner.It damn near cost the NFC Champs a spot in the playoffs.
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Post#13 » by Ayt » Thu Feb 3, 2011 10:48 pm

He's clearly one of the best HCs in the game. He also gets huge credit for hiring such an incredible staff.

I think many of the Packer fans that are his biggest critics need to watch other teams play with the same level of emotional investment they give to the Packers. If you put yourself into the shoes of a fan of another team, it quickly becomes evident that all HCs, OCs, and DCs do things that make you scratch your head in wonderment. If you just think about the playoffs this year that should be clear. The question is how often does that happen and to what degree are the decisions stupid, and in MM's case it really isn't that bad. Since he doesn't make huge blunders with his playcalling or game management, he's way above the curve because of how well prepared his teams are. To be specific, I think his playcalling is very good, and I think his gameplanning prior to games is elite. I think he puts more faith in his defense than a lot of fans which makes them question his playcalling late and with a lead, but I really don't have a problem with that. He really just goes run, run, pass in those situations for the most part, and expects his offense to either be able to execute or for the D and ST to do their jobs if called upon.

I also think people just allow too much emotion into their evaluations of football in general, but that seems to be the nature of the sport. There is way too much results oriented thinking amongst fans when looking at football. We just had an example of that against Philly where we were running the ball at the end.

For an example of bad coaching from a HOF coach that is considered to easily be the best coach in the game, just look at NE wasting all that time against the Jets. WTF?
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Post#14 » by Newz » Thu Feb 3, 2011 10:49 pm

Ayt wrote:He's clearly one of the best HCs in the game.

I think many of the Packer fans that are his biggest critics need to watch other teams play with the same level of emotional investment they give to the Packers. If you put yourself into the shoes of a fan of another team, it quickly becomes evident that all HCs, OCs, and DCs do things that make you scratch your head in wonderment. If you just think about the playoffs this year that should be clear. The question is how often does that happen and to what degree are the decisions stupid, and in MM's case it really isn't that bad, and since he doesn't make huge blunders with his playcalling or game management, he's way above the curve because of how well prepared his teams are.

I also think people just allow too much emotion into their evaluations of football in general, but that seems to be the nature of the sport. There is way too much results oriented thinking amongst fans when looking at football. We just had an example of that against Philly where we were running the ball at the end.

For an example of bad coaching from a HOF coach that is considered to easily be the best coach in the game, just look at NE wasting all that time against the Jets. WTF?


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Post#15 » by chuckleslove » Thu Feb 3, 2011 11:13 pm

Ayt wrote:He's clearly one of the best HCs in the game. He also gets huge credit for hiring such an incredible staff.

I think many of the Packer fans that are his biggest critics need to watch other teams play with the same level of emotional investment they give to the Packers. If you put yourself into the shoes of a fan of another team, it quickly becomes evident that all HCs, OCs, and DCs do things that make you scratch your head in wonderment. If you just think about the playoffs this year that should be clear. The question is how often does that happen and to what degree are the decisions stupid, and in MM's case it really isn't that bad. Since he doesn't make huge blunders with his playcalling or game management, he's way above the curve because of how well prepared his teams are. To be specific, I think his playcalling is very good, and I think his gameplanning prior to games is elite. I think he puts more faith in his defense than a lot of fans which makes them question his playcalling late and with a lead, but I really don't have a problem with that. He really just goes run, run, pass in those situations for the most part, and expects his offense to either be able to execute or for the D and ST to do their jobs if called upon.

I also think people just allow too much emotion into their evaluations of football in general, but that seems to be the nature of the sport. There is way too much results oriented thinking amongst fans when looking at football. We just had an example of that against Philly where we were running the ball at the end.

For an example of bad coaching from a HOF coach that is considered to easily be the best coach in the game, just look at NE wasting all that time against the Jets. WTF?


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Post#16 » by Dirty Water » Fri Feb 4, 2011 5:51 pm

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:On a related note... Belichick has to find some offensive weapons for Brady. I don't think they can win a Super Bowl with their pedestrian line up of skilled players (Welker, Woodhead, couple of TEs, Branch etc.). I know Moss didn't do anything after he left NE, but he was a guy that at least made defenses worry, they need to find another guy like that.


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Post#17 » by an_also » Fri Feb 4, 2011 5:57 pm

if fitz goes to the pats. They'll win the superbowl next year.
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Post#18 » by Rockmaninoff » Fri Feb 4, 2011 6:25 pm

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Injuries or not this team should have been better than 10-6 in the regular season and shouldn't have needed to win their final 2 games in the reg season to get the #6 seed.



I can buy that. Prior to the season, my thinking was that anything less then 11-5 would be a disappointment. But two of the six losses were with Flynn under center. Rodgers probably wins one of those games.

Next season, the stakes are raised. If the Packers were to stand pat in the personnel department, they should finish 12-4, just off of increased experience and better health.

If Thompson can upgrade the offensive line and get a receiver/returner, all bets are off.
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Post#19 » by Wilford Brimley » Fri Feb 4, 2011 6:46 pm

Honestly, I will be disappointed if we don't go 16-0 next year. There's no reason why we can't.
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Post#20 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Feb 4, 2011 6:50 pm

If this season has taught me anything, it's that I don't care if we're 14-2 or 10-6. I just want to get in the playoffs. I don't even care about home field advantage, seeing as we're a better in-door/warm-weather team.

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