ImageImageImage

Nash Snubbed

Moderators: bwgood77, Qwigglez, lilfishi22

Shooly
Ballboy
Posts: 30
And1: 4
Joined: Jul 31, 2009

Nash Snubbed 

Post#1 » by Shooly » Fri Feb 4, 2011 1:31 am

All Star reserves were announced.

Predictably Nash was snubbed. The West is stacked with great players. I'm really not surprised.

Question: Could Nash be picked to replace Yao Ming? Or is it a given that a big man like Kevin Love or LeMarcus Aldridge will get the nod?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/210584/NBA_Announces_All_Star_Reserves

The NBA announced the reserves of the 2011 All-Star Game on Thursday.

Boston's Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen were named to the team, along with Chris Bosh of Miami and Atlanta's Al Horford and Joe Johnson.

In the Western Conference, Dirk Nowitzki, Russell Westbrook, Pau Gasol, Blake Griffin, Deron Williams and San Antonio's Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili were named to the team.

Kevin Love, LaMarcus Aldridge, Steve Nash and Monta Ellis were amongst the most prominent snubs.

Commissioner David Stern will name at least one replacement for injured starting center Yao Ming.
Jimmy76
RealGM
Posts: 14,548
And1: 9
Joined: May 01, 2009

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#2 » by Jimmy76 » Fri Feb 4, 2011 1:38 am

meh always snubs

he could use the time off anyways, maybe next year
YFZblu
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,873
And1: 426
Joined: Apr 13, 2010

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#3 » by YFZblu » Fri Feb 4, 2011 1:40 am

Westbrook over Nash is just crazy.

Anyway, Nash is too busy climbing Camelback Mountain with a 50lb vest to be concerned about this:

http://twitvid.com/RTEJQ

Edit: What the hell. Ghill's twitter says he rode his bike to Tucson and back today. These guys aren't normal.
User avatar
rsavaj
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 24,863
And1: 2,767
Joined: May 09, 2007
Location: Phoenix, Arizona

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#4 » by rsavaj » Fri Feb 4, 2011 2:09 am

That's an 11 hour bike ride one way, according to google maps.

22 hour bike ride? I'm not sure Grant could pull it off.
BurningHeart
General Manager
Posts: 9,725
And1: 1,629
Joined: Jun 02, 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#5 » by BurningHeart » Fri Feb 4, 2011 2:15 am

Absurdity. Nash and Love not making it is **** ridiculous. The West should have carried 4 PGs.
User avatar
lilfishi22
Forum Mod - Suns
Forum Mod - Suns
Posts: 36,206
And1: 24,563
Joined: Oct 16, 2007
Location: Australia

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#6 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Feb 4, 2011 2:26 am

Westbrook deserves to be an All-Star this season. Was Nash snubbed? Probably. But players playing on winning teams are always looked upon more favorably.
User avatar
TheJohnWallShow
Junior
Posts: 462
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 11, 2010

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#7 » by TheJohnWallShow » Fri Feb 4, 2011 3:08 am

Westbrook over Nash crazy? Not really...Westbrook is averaging 22, 5 and 9 this year on a team with prolific scoring Durant. Nash should have made it regardless, but id give the nod to Westbrook over Nash this year hands down. To put things in another perspective, Kobe is only averaging 26, 5 and 5, and to me, 4 assists is more important than 4 points. Westbrook also has a higher efficiency rate than the black mamba as well.
RunDogGun
No Sham, More Cam
Posts: 17,891
And1: 5,437
Joined: Jun 27, 2009
Location: Beyond the Sun

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#8 » by RunDogGun » Fri Feb 4, 2011 3:29 am

I don't think he cares. He already is the best free-throw shooter in NBA history, and he is the only player in NBA history to have more than two years in a row of 50/40/90, and he is working on another one of those this year. I think he is fine sitting out this popularity contest.
blackjays1
Junior
Posts: 318
And1: 0
Joined: Jan 17, 2010

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#9 » by blackjays1 » Fri Feb 4, 2011 3:50 am

I don't think Westbrook is the issue it's pretty clear he's better than Nash. The player I have issue with here is Chris Paul he really screws this up, he's not having his best year and he's not the only player making the Hornets go, D-West and Okafor are killing it for them this year. Dun't see how he's a starter. It should be Westbrook-Williams-Nash-Paul in that order.
User avatar
rsavaj
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 24,863
And1: 2,767
Joined: May 09, 2007
Location: Phoenix, Arizona

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#10 » by rsavaj » Fri Feb 4, 2011 4:43 am

TheJohnWallShow wrote:Westbrook over Nash crazy? Not really...Westbrook is averaging 22, 5 and 9 this year on a team with prolific scoring Durant. Nash should have made it regardless, but id give the nod to Westbrook over Nash this year hands down. To put things in another perspective, Kobe is only averaging 26, 5 and 5, and to me, 4 assists is more important than 4 points. Westbrook also has a higher efficiency rate than the black mamba as well.


Nash is still the most efficient guard in the NBA. 17/11 was enough for an all-star start for him when he was playing next to Amare.

Westbrook- 22.5 ppg/8.4apg/54 TS% as a second option with the defense focusing on Durant first and foremost.

Nash- 17.2ppg/11apg/64 TS% as a first option, with the defense totally keyed in on him, in less minutes

And I know Westbrook is touted as the better defender, but Nash is actually putting up an astonishing season defensively.

Westbrook allows .89 points per possession (41.9% shooting)
Nash allows .85 points per possession (39.2% shooting)

Nash has him beat quite handily using adjusted plus/minus measures. The team is 11.79 points better when Nash is playing. The numbers say that Westbrook's impact actually is negative .79.

.154 win shares for Westbrook, .184 win shares for Nash.

82games.com's simple rating puts Nash's impact at +15.8, and Westbrook's at 2.9. etc, etc.

IMO, Nash has the advantage.
User avatar
Nando88
Veteran
Posts: 2,568
And1: 256
Joined: Feb 06, 2009

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#11 » by Nando88 » Fri Feb 4, 2011 4:51 am

Jdiddy701
RealGM
Posts: 10,145
And1: 6,555
Joined: Jun 05, 2006

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#12 » by Jdiddy701 » Fri Feb 4, 2011 5:59 am

IMO, Nash is the best pg in the NBA. What he's doing with the roster we have is incredible. I guarantee if you put any other PG in the NBA with the Suns, he would not average 11 asts, and we would have a worst record. Nash is getting robbed.
SideSwipe
Analyst
Posts: 3,718
And1: 687
Joined: Aug 20, 2007

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#13 » by SideSwipe » Fri Feb 4, 2011 6:29 am

Nash definitely got robbed. I am glad he is the first runner-up for Yao's spot, but not including him on here, but including Griffin is an epic failure. Griffin is good...great in fact, but Nash is better. Not convinced at all about Westbrook being better than Nash, Paul either (this year) Even D Will, (this year). Nash is the most efficient , make your team better, PG in the league right now.

On his improved defende, I noticed that he is hawking the ball much better this year. He has extended pressure out to the handlers, maybe because he has more confidence now that Gortat is here, and Frye has learned how to block.
User avatar
mikefly3113
Sophomore
Posts: 194
And1: 56
Joined: Dec 16, 2009
Location: the valley
       

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#14 » by mikefly3113 » Fri Feb 4, 2011 7:15 am

It's typical nba bs, even after the fans vote its a popularity contest so stern can boost the ratings. for both nash and love not to be all stars is ridiculous.
I like Draft Picks/Cap Space, long walks on the beach, and short youtube clips.

VIVA LA STOOL
BurningHeart
General Manager
Posts: 9,725
And1: 1,629
Joined: Jun 02, 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#15 » by BurningHeart » Fri Feb 4, 2011 7:18 am

The West should have carried 4 PGs.

Nash not being in is ridiculous, considering what he's doing with a much, MUCH crappier team. It really is unreal.

Awesome post, Sav.
schnakenpopanz
General Manager
Posts: 8,922
And1: 3,206
Joined: Dec 05, 2008
Location: Germany
Contact:
 

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#16 » by schnakenpopanz » Fri Feb 4, 2011 9:48 am

nash snubbed for all star, nothing new, he got snubbed for his 3rd mvp, so nothing surprises me.
Ishiba is a BUSINESS MAN!
DRK
RealGM
Posts: 12,178
And1: 3,609
Joined: Feb 28, 2010
Location: Kentucky Suns
Contact:
   

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#17 » by DRK » Fri Feb 4, 2011 1:17 pm

Phoenix's Steve Nash is a strong favorite to replace the injured Yao Ming on the Western Conference roster, sources told Y! Sports


http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA

Not snubbed after all?
MrMiyagi wrote:Lob to DA for the win
User avatar
RocPHX
Senior
Posts: 612
And1: 0
Joined: Dec 29, 2009

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#18 » by RocPHX » Fri Feb 4, 2011 1:26 pm

On inside the nba, they didn't even mention him as a snub.
Steve Nash is the point guard jason kidd wishes he was.
KLEON
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,905
And1: 2,144
Joined: Jul 15, 2009
   

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#19 » by KLEON » Fri Feb 4, 2011 7:08 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:Westbrook deserves to be an All-Star this season. Was Nash snubbed? Probably. But players playing on winning teams are always looked upon more favorably.


OK if so why the hell is BLAKE GRIFFIN on the All-Star team. Those coaches most be smoking those funny cigarettes because if BLAKE GRIFFIN made the All-Star team so should LOVE. Gasol shouldn't be on the team this year because i think Odom been playing way better than him this year and the coaches may be feel they owe Duncan something by putting him on the team because he shouldn't be an All-Star either, its Ginobili and Parker who been carrying the Spurs this year. Nash should also be an All-Star because he's way better than Westbrook,D-Will and even CP3. I THINK THIS WHOLE THING COMES DOWN TO BLAKE GRIFFIN BECAUSE IF HE MADE IT SO SHOULD LOVE, NASH, ODOM AND MAYBE MONTA ELLIS
User avatar
NYK 455
General Manager
Posts: 7,994
And1: 163
Joined: Sep 13, 2009
Location: New York

Re: Nash Snubbed 

Post#20 » by NYK 455 » Fri Feb 4, 2011 7:21 pm

Nash is still the best PG in the NBA, sad that only Suns fans and a handful of others even realize it. I was watching Inside the NBA yesterday, and they didn't talk about Nash once when mentioning the best replacement. Pathetic and disgraceful.

Return to Phoenix Suns


cron