[Camelo Thread Part 15] - Slim Chance of LA/DEN Deal

Post #121 » by **GONYK** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:42 pm

The Lakers don't make sense on so many levels. I'm not really worried about that.

Post #122 » by **moocow007** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:43 pm

What exactly are we afraid of? That really IS the bottom line for questions like this.

Post #123 » by **knicks742** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:43 pm

I think it may be time for the cat picture again.

aggo · Post #124 » by **aggo** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:44 pm

shtolky wrote:I don't really think L.A. necessarily has more assets than us. We've heard Bynum possibly going to here, there, everywhere straight up for so and so. Remember how so many reported Bynum for Bosh straight up during last season, please. The guy is 23 and has shown he simply can't stay on the court. For all of his star potential everyone thinks he has, he sure hasn't shown anything to warrant that. Also, he has 15 million coming to him next season and then will expect to get paid the year after. I can't see Denver taking on that contract for next season with the strong chance he walks after next year. Sure, they have Nene and he could walk next year, but they are going to get an injury prone 23 year old straight up for Melo? I don't buy it, neither should you.

unless LA gets a third team involved to take on ~15million in cap space (think: harrington, billups, Kmart) melo isnt going to LA.

Post #125 » by **moocow007** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:45 pm

As far as an answer to the question goes? YES OF COURSE HE IS.

If we go by the "if he's not able to be a stud on both ends of the ball" then Dwight Howard also is not elite...and somehow I doubt anyone would ever say that.

He's a top 10 player in the NBA. Yes....elite.

aggo · Post #126 » by **aggo** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:46 pm

god shammgod wrote:i don't buy the lakers because denver won't save money in the deal. i thought we were going to take al back all along, that's not a big deal to me.

yup and many of us have been saying this all along.

it isnt our assets that will be what gets us melo.. it'll be our capspace and expiring contracts that can taking harrington or birdman back that will eventually get us melo.

Post #127 » by **moocow007** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:48 pm

ITGM wrote:
TDcraz5 wrote:According tro Broussard...

The Lakers are now in on the Melo trade talks....

I swear I'm the Nostradamus of our time; did I call this or what.

Wasn't Nostradamus poisoned and was still a virgin at time of death?

Curryy · Post #128 » by **Curryy** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:48 pm

a lot of you are over reacting about this Dolan thing.

"OMG AN OWNER OF A SPORTS FRANCHISE IS TALKING TO ANOTHER OWNER OF A FRANCHISE DOLAN IS AN IDIOT!"

jstudabaka · Post #129 » by **jstudabaka** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:48 pm

Haha, all along I thought the Lakers would get involved and work on a Bynum package. Thing is, is it really smart for the Nuggets to trade 'Melo in conference unless it's a much better package?

HighRyzer83 · Post #130 » by **HighRyzer83** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:49 pm

ESPN reporting (by way of Broussard) Denver has no interest in Artest or Odom.
Although I dont blame them I do find it interesting Denver still believes they're position of power like they have leverage.

seren · Post #131 » by **seren** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:50 pm

Melo to Lakers sound like a BS to me.

Post #132 » by **Thorn** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:50 pm

NySpartan4 wrote:PS- these are genuine questions. I am not trying to bash any player or their supporters.

I feel that he is yes. Without question.

Curryy · Post #133 » by **Curryy** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:53 pm

seren wrote:Melo to Lakers sound like a BS to me.

Fisher
Kobe
Melo
Lamar
Pau

?????

Profit.

Post #134 » by **knicks742** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:53 pm

Btw the Lakers also traded their 2011 first rounder to the Nets already. So they can't trade their 2012 pick.

Post #135 » by **moocow007** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:53 pm

HighRyzer83 wrote:ESPN reporting (by way of Broussard) Denver has no interest in Artest or Odom.
Although I dont blame them I do find it interesting Denver still believes they're position of power like they have leverage.

That's what you get with a Junior GM and a Junior Owner trying to figure their way out of a box over there.

knicks9784 · Post #136 » by **knicks9784** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:54 pm

HighRyzer83 wrote:ESPN reporting (by way of Broussard) Denver has no interest in Artest or Odom.
Although I dont blame them I do find it interesting Denver still believes they're position of power like they have leverage.

lol no artest and no odom, so the ONLY asset they have is bynum's huge contract......

poor attempt at leverage this time denver...next

Post #137 » by **moocow007** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:55 pm

Like I posted in the Trade Board, the Nuggets last best hope to get something close to what they want out of this is this bafoon of a man...

seren · Post #138 » by **seren** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:55 pm

Curryy wrote:
seren wrote:Melo to Lakers sound like a BS to me.

Fisher
Kobe
Melo
Lamar
Pau

?????

Profit.

Why does Denver do it?

bigfnjoe96 · Post #139 » by **bigfnjoe96** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:57 pm

Broussard "Lakers now in talks" =

JohnStarksTheDunk · Post #140 » by **JohnStarksTheDunk** » Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:57 pm

Capn'O wrote:
JohnStarksTheDunk wrote:
DatNYKnicka wrote:Top 15 Player in the league??? Whats good with all this Melo bias??? If we get Melo he automatically becomes the best player on this team. I want someone to name 14 Players in this league that are better than Carmelo Anthony

I'd say he is definitely in the top 10. In no real order, here are 10 of the top guys in the league (add in CP3 when 100% healthy). Is there anyone not on this list who should be in here instead of Melo?

LBJ
Kobe
Melo
DWill
Wade
Durant
Dirk
Dwight
Amare
Griffin

Rose? Pau? Not necessarily instead of... but I now put them in that class of players.

I prefer the tier system myself where

LBJ
Kobe

Are tier 1

Dwight
Wade
Dirk
Durant*

Are tier 1A

And the rest of the guys are tier 2. I find it hard to rank when each gives a skillset that could be more valuable to one team than another.

*Durant could easily move to tier 1 after a great playoffs.

I thought about Rose, but I wouldn't put him there yet, and if I did, it wouldn't be in place of Melo. I had a hard time deciding between Amare, Griffin, and Gasol for the final 2 spots.

I generally prefer the tier system as well. I think that if we're putting an aging Dirk (who is still incredibly efficient because he shoots such a high % from everywhere and gets to the line) in 1A, then folks could probably make a case for putting Melo there, even though he has had a down year.

As for the elite discussion, I think a lot of the disagreement in this thread is in defining where the cutoff is for elite. I initially considered it tier 1 when I opened this thread. The very best of the best. Though thinking about it more, that's basically reserved for the "best player in the league" conversation, which isn't the same as calling someone elite.