Is Joe the 3rd Most Important Player on this team?

[Harry10]

i think i would have

1a. Josh
1b. Horford

2a. Joe
2b. Jamal

i don't really enjoy watching Joe ball hog it out their and put on a dribbling show, but it is fun this year watching Al and Josh hit some mid range jump shots

[myrak433]

i think i would have

1a. Josh
1b. Horford

2a. Joe
2b. Jamal

i don't really enjoy watching Joe ball hog it out their and put on a dribbling show, but it is fun this year watching Al and Josh hit some mid range jump shots

I am starting to see a trend... it seems you really don't like JJ. Hey I don't like to see him hold the ball to long and pound on one side of the court for too long either, but we don't have a play maker. so what is he suppose to do, if he does pass the ball Smoove takes a ill advised jumper( even though he is making a fare amount of them this year) or someone passes the ball back to him. we need a playmaker and then you would appreciate JJ more.

[evildallas]

3rd most important isn't a knock. To be honest all 3 are important and due to lack of production elsewhere Jamal is often important as well. If the team takes all jump shots and doesn't have intensity on defense it looks like crap. If the team plays hard and shots are falling then they look great.

Joe has the huge contract that people expect him to live up to that colors the judgment. It can make you think he should be the most important player and carry the team all the time. That just isn't reality and can't be. One man can't carry a team to any kind of success. I would go as far as saying that when Joe tries to do too much he winds up pounding the ball, but it may not be all him. You have an entire team that offensively for years have been instructed to defer to Joe. It's hard to break out of those molds and easy to slip back into on a night when nothing is falling. They empower Joe to be bad Joe.

I think Josh appears to be the most important because of the wind range of moods he exhibits on the court and how much it can impact everyone else. His every decision has a domino effect.

Al is very important because he's the consistent one that amplifies the success when Josh is good and lessens the problems when Josh is bad. He'd likely be more important if we actually made greater use of him on offense where he's among the most efficient scorers in the game these days.

For all the cries of getting a C so that Al can play his natural position that is actually the 3rd most important thing the team needs. #1 we need a true PG to take offensive workload off of Joe and get the ball more to Al and Josh. #2 we need Josh's sports psychologist that helped him improve his shot to convince him that it is okay to play inside and that when things aren't going well to channel it into his defense intensity. #3 would be a C. #4 is to either get Marvin a sports psychologist or a bus ticket. He's as unpredictable as Josh just not as demonstrative.

[azuresou1]

What we really need is a leader. I remember saying that we needed to sign Kidd when he was an FA. He's probably too old now, but a leader would solve 3 out of those 4 problems.

[parson]

Depends on what is meant by "most important."

If you mean most necessary, then it's Horford. Without him, we have a pitiful inside game. Smoove plays inside when the mood hits him but outside most of the time. Marvelous plays outside because of the SFs he's covering and only comes inside when Horford can't play. Only Horford plays inside game in and game out. He is our inside defense and our inside offense. Without an inside game, we look as we did against PHI.

If you mean most productive, then it's Joe ... by a mile... and it aint even close. Joe has the ball more, he shoots more and he scores more.

If you mean most valuable, that's defined as the player who makes his teammates better. We don't have one of those.