[Camelo Thread Part 16] - Denver wants what?! p58

[mugzi]

Exactly its comical, Gallo is 22 fn yrs old!!!!!!!!!!

He's scratching the surface of his potential these haters act as if a player cant ever improve after the tender age of 22. Im not saying hes a superstar but I know a 20 ppg scorer when I see one and Gallo will eventually reach that plateau.

[taj2133]

Gallo is to tall to play shooting guard he is 6foot10 he can't play that postion guys would go past him if he was shooting guard. Manu great because he playing the shooting guard poistion he not playing point guard he is at his right postion.

[mugzi]

Lets be totaly honest about gallo he is a good player but he is not a player who is ever going to be at elite level or a all star player. If or when carmelo comes here what postion will gallo play because he can't play shooting guard and he defiently can't play power foward. There is no room for him to be on this team i know its hard for people accept the fact you might have to loose a gallo but this carmelo its once life time type player.

We cant be honest about gallo here on this board. Its not allowed. You can try. But self proclaimed geniuses will break out complex mathematical formulas to support their argument. Then make fun of you and tell you that you are not smart enough to understand.

Kane youre one of the few posters here I truly respect but are u saying Gallo has peaked??? Come on man, I know you know this guy has at least the potential to up his ppg 3 or 4 more per game in 1 to 3 years.

[GONYK]

Gallo is to tall to play shooting guard he is 6foot10 he can't play that postion guys would go past him if he was shooting guard. Manu great because he playing the shooting guard poistion he not playing point guard he is at his right postion.

What's your point? Hedo is a playmaker from the SF position, and was very effective at it with Orlando. Gallo is already better than Hedo.

So because he can't play one specific position (SG) he can't ever contribute?

[taj2133]

Another thing about gallo i know he only 22 but next year he will be 23 he averaging same numbers like he did last year and he was 21.

[nytonm]

I'm almost 100% positive that Mike will play Melo at the 4. Mike likes Wilson at the 4 because when hes on he gives us a huge advantage (and Mikes right about that). Well Melo is always on, plus he's bigger than Wilson and a better rebounder.

With that being said I could go either way on Gallo or Landry being in the trade. But I'd really prefer to keep them both. I'm willing to let the Nuggets keep Melo past the deadline and take our chances at the end of the season even.

[GONYK]

Another thing about gallo i know he only 22 but next year he will be 23 he averaging same numbers like he did last year and he was 21.

What are you talking about? His numbers have gone up this season. Hell his numbers have taken a huge jump in the last month alone.

You are making some pretty baseless claims here.

[Justdatdude]

I shouldve clarified myself....I said if I had to Gallo weould be the odd man out but I would trade 2 out of the 3 if another asset came back...future protected 1st rnd pick or someone like Birdman. But bottom line is Denver is dealing from a position of weakness so theres no need to capitulate to them. And there's no need to be subliminal about your motives we all know that u meant Chandler and Gallo would go in a Melo trade. Maybe if u havent already been called out as a Gallo hater u wouldnt be so defensive in your posts here.

Exactly. Which is why if I meant Gallo then I would've posted his name. Maybe you should read through the past few 'Camelo Thread' and read that I said I would trade either Fields or Gallo. I mentioned trading both. Which one we trade out of the two is irrelevant to me. Whichever one is necessary to get Melo should be dealt. I can care less which one it is.

Like I said, if I want to make a hate post towards Gallinari, I would. I haven't pulled punches back in the past on him. What would be the use of doing it now? Be it Chandler and Gallo, Chandler and Fields or Gallo and Fields...I can care less. If two of the 3 is necessary, then send out 2 of the 3. Stop with the unnecessary posts. No reason to call me out. Even if it was an agenda filled post with me wanting Gallo out for Carmelo, how would that have mattered?

[Justdatdude]

Lets be totaly honest about gallo he is a good player but he is not a player who is ever going to be at elite level or a all star player. If or when carmelo comes here what postion will gallo play because he can't play shooting guard and he defiently can't play power foward. There is no room for him to be on this team i know its hard for people accept the fact you might have to loose a gallo but this carmelo its once life time type player.

We cant be honest about gallo here on this board. Its not allowed. You can try. But self proclaimed geniuses will break out complex mathematical formulas to support their argument. Then make fun of you and tell you that you are not smart enough to understand.

Exactly. But a select few still try.

[Knicker23]

Everyone can agree Gallo would be a nice asset to hold onto moving forward... I also think everyone can agree that if it means giving him up to secure Melo, he's gone.. Where people disagree probably occurs in how long we'd like to see Donnie hold out or call Denvers bluff before he gives Gallo.. (were this hypothetical with Gallo not being included in deals true)...

After performances like many witnessed tonight by Melo, and over the last couple of games, many people have moved from 'mannnn we got leverage! blackball denver w stupid deals until they cave..' to 'damn, we need this guy on our team now, no funny business, get it done.'

[Justdatdude]

Lets be totaly honest about gallo he is a good player but he is not a player who is ever going to be at elite level or a all star player. If or when carmelo comes here what postion will gallo play because he can't play shooting guard and he defiently can't play power foward. There is no room for him to be on this team i know its hard for people accept the fact you might have to loose a gallo but this carmelo its once life time type player.

We cant be honest about gallo here on this board. Its not allowed. You can try. But self proclaimed geniuses will break out complex mathematical formulas to support their argument. Then make fun of you and tell you that you are not smart enough to understand.

Kane youre one of the few posters here I truly respect but are u saying Gallo has peaked??? Come on man, I know you know this guy has at least the potential to up his ppg 3 or 4 more per game in 1 to 3 years.

But when did he say Gallo has peaked? What words can possibly lead you to the conclusion that Kane said Gallo peaked? Once again, stop trying to call people out. I'm a straight shooter. Kane's a straight shooter. Bluest, Dk7th, Stutterstep, and Alphadogz are straight shooters. When we say things, you don't have to figure out what we're trying to say with our posts. We'll tell you exactly what's on our minds. Plain and simple. Stop trying to put words into people mouths and start arguments. Its unnecessary.

[kane2021]

Lets be totaly honest about gallo he is a good player but he is not a player who is ever going to be at elite level or a all star player. If or when carmelo comes here what postion will gallo play because he can't play shooting guard and he defiently can't play power foward. There is no room for him to be on this team i know its hard for people accept the fact you might have to loose a gallo but this carmelo its once life time type player.

We cant be honest about gallo here on this board. Its not allowed. You can try. But self proclaimed geniuses will break out complex mathematical formulas to support their argument. Then make fun of you and tell you that you are not smart enough to understand.

Kane youre one of the few posters here I truly respect but are u saying Gallo has peaked??? Come on man, I know you know this guy has at least the potential to up his ppg 3 or 4 more per game in 1 to 3 years.

No. Im not saying he has peaked at all. All im saying is, you cant discuss him on this board. You cant break down his game by what you see. And what you feel. Even if you keep it respectful, and be realistic. You cant even discuss his personality. Because someone comes with their yeah gallo flag.

Its crazy to me man. I mean, at least me, im a knick fan. You know what I mean? I care about the team. I dont have a love affair with these young players. In all my years of watching knick basketball, you have to go back to the 60's, to see a team that drafts and develops. This is a big money franchise that buys players. I cant afford as a fan to get attached to a draft pick that is not elite. And unfortunately I have not seen one sense 1985.

Again it not that I think he has peaked, or that I like or dislike him, I just dont understand why this dude is such a controversial subject here.

[taj2133]

Gallo point scoring from last season to this season is a 1 point increase.
09-10 NYK 81 74 33.9 4.8-11.4 .423 2.3-6.0 .381 3.1-3.8 .818 0.90 0.70 1.4 2.4 0.8 4.1 4.9 1.7 15.1
10-11 NYK 45 45 34.8 4.4-10.6 .419 1.8-5.0 .354 5.5-6.2 .888 0.80 0.40 1.2 2.4 1.0 3.6 4.6 1.8 16.1
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/s ... yerId=3428

[Justdatdude]

Gallo is to tall to play shooting guard he is 6foot10 he can't play that postion guys would go past him if he was shooting guard. Manu great because he playing the shooting guard poistion he not playing point guard he is at his right postion.

What's your point? Hedo is a playmaker from the SF position, and was very effective at it with Orlando. Gallo is already better than Hedo.

So because he can't play one specific position (SG) he can't ever contribute?

Gallo hasn't shown he can do the things Hedo can do. Stop it. Dirk is better than Hedo too. Can Dirk bring the ball up the floor and initiate the offense?

[GONYK]

Everyone can agree Gallo would be a nice asset to hold onto moving forward... I also think everyone can agree that if it means giving him up to secure Melo, he's gone.. Where people disagree probably occurs in how long we'd like to see Donnie hold out or call Denvers bluff before he gives Gallo.. (were this hypothetical with Gallo not being included in deals true)...

After performances like many witnessed tonight by Melo, and over the last couple of games, many people have moved from 'mannnn we got leverage! blackball denver w stupid deals until they cave..' to 'damn, we need this guy on our team now, no funny business, get it done.'

Those people aren't thinking clearly though.

Melo's play has nothing to do with our leverage. We always knew he was capable of this. His on court performances changes nothing about Denver's position or ours in this affair.

[Justdatdude]

Another thing about gallo i know he only 22 but next year he will be 23 he averaging same numbers like he did last year and he was 21.

What are you talking about? His numbers have gone up this season. Hell his numbers have taken a huge jump in the last month alone.

You are making some pretty baseless claims here.

What numbers?

Fg% decreased
3p% decreased
rpg decreased
spg decreased
blk decreased

Ppg increased
apg increased
ft% increased

His numbers have gotten worse, in more minutes, but his ft% increased tremendously.

[GONYK]

Gallo is to tall to play shooting guard he is 6foot10 he can't play that postion guys would go past him if he was shooting guard. Manu great because he playing the shooting guard poistion he not playing point guard he is at his right postion.

What's your point? Hedo is a playmaker from the SF position, and was very effective at it with Orlando. Gallo is already better than Hedo.

So because he can't play one specific position (SG) he can't ever contribute?

Gallo hasn't shown he can do the things Hedo can do. Stop it. Dirk is better than Hedo too. Can Dirk bring the ball up the floor and initiate the offense?

No, but Gallo can.

Even if you disagree, the notion that Gallo has no value to a team with Melo on it is absurd. There will always be a place for a 6'10" player who can shoot, put the ball on the floor, and get to the line at very good rate.

[GONYK]

Another thing about gallo i know he only 22 but next year he will be 23 he averaging same numbers like he did last year and he was 21.

What are you talking about? His numbers have gone up this season. Hell his numbers have taken a huge jump in the last month alone.

You are making some pretty baseless claims here.

What numbers?

Fg% decreased
3p% decreased
rpg decreased
spg decreased
blk decreased

Ppg increased
apg increased
ft% increased

His numbers have gotten worse, in more minutes, but his ft% increased tremendously.

Those would be the numbers I'm referring to

[Justdatdude]

Gallo hasn't shown he can do the things Hedo can do. Stop it. Dirk is better than Hedo too. Can Dirk bring the ball up the floor and initiate the offense?

No, but Gallo can.

Even if you disagree, the notion that Gallo has no value to a team with Melo on it is absurd. There will always be a place for a 6'10" player who can shoot, put the ball on the floor, and get to the line at very good rate.

That's where I disagree. I've seen Gallo lose his handle plenty of times. I don't see Gallo making the plays that Hedo makes on the daily basis. I don't see him constantly setting players up for dunks or layups. I don't see that playmaking ability.

You're right in that it would always be a spot on a team for a player like Gallo. He's 6'10 that can shoot and get to the line. Of course its always a spot for a player like him. I just didn't find the Hedo comment necessary.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Love Gallo but if it's necessary to send him too, do it.