Maybe we expected too much too quickly?

[Dr. Detfink]

D'Antoni came here to win a championship, his goal every year is to make the playoffs, those are the standards he came with and why he makes $6 mil a year. He's been a failure by his own standards and he's clearly not a championship caliber coach.

Yea but look what he has? Donnie CLEARLY should not have gone after Mike IF the plan was going to try and win a title with role players. Cause to win with lesser talent, you have to go Defense.

[Trademarkk]

D'Antoni came here to win a championship, his goal every year is to make the playoffs, those are the standards he came with and why he makes $6 mil a year. He's been a failure by his own standards and he's clearly not a championship caliber coach.

Yea but look what he has? Donnie CLEARLY should not have gone after Mike IF the plan was going to try and win a title with role players. Cause to win with lesser talent, you have to go Defense.

You're typing dumb sh*t and making no effort to justify it. That D'antoni cape isn't a good look.

[Dr. Detfink]

D'Antoni came here to win a championship, his goal every year is to make the playoffs, those are the standards he came with and why he makes $6 mil a year. He's been a failure by his own standards and he's clearly not a championship caliber coach.

Yea but look what he has? Donnie CLEARLY should not have gone after Mike IF the plan was going to try and win a title with role players. Cause to win with lesser talent, you have to go Defense.

You're typing dumb sh*t and making no effort to justify it. That D'antoni cape isn't a good look.

So WAIT...we go ahead and blame the front office for past failures but give Donnie a free pass?!?!

Hey F*CK Mike D'Antoni but he didn't hire HIMSELF.

Explain WHAT did Donnie do in Indiana that was SO memorable? Because outside of Reggie Miller's MSG moment, I am FAILING to understand what makes him so untouchable.

[lataflava00]

this is exactly where i saw us heading in to the season. right around .500.

for those that want to argue that we lost to some horrible teams (cavs, clippers, bucks, 76ers minnesota) we also pulled out some pretty big wins against some pretty good teams (bulls, thunder, spurs, heat, hornets, denver).

it goes both ways. we'll be fine and i expect us to get better after the all-star break.

[Trademarkk]

So WAIT...we go ahead and blame the front office for past failures but give Donnie a free pass?!?!

Hey F*CK Mike D'Antoni but he didn't hire HIMSELF.

Explain WHAT did Donnie do in Indiana that was SO memorable? Because outside of Reggie Miller's MSG moment, I am FAILING to understand what makes him so untouchable.

So that's what you're upset about? You think D'antoni has shouldered too much of the blame?
Walsh went for the most appealing coach available at the time and landed him.
I don't want to get started with Walsh's credentials but I think the up-haul that he's
accomplished with the Knick roster is enough. You're straying into something irrelevant when
bringing up his past.

[Dr. Detfink]

So WAIT...we go ahead and blame the front office for past failures but give Donnie a free pass?!?!

Hey F*CK Mike D'Antoni but he didn't hire HIMSELF.

Explain WHAT did Donnie do in Indiana that was SO memorable? Because outside of Reggie Miller's MSG moment, I am FAILING to understand what makes him so untouchable.

So that's what you're upset about? You think D'antoni has shouldered too much of the blame?
Walsh went for the most appealing coach available at the time and landed him.
I don't want to get started with Walsh's credentials but I think the up-haul that he's
accomplished with the Knick roster is enough. You're straying into something irrelevant when
bringing up his past.

Mike D'Antoni should NEVER been hired in the first place. What has that system won btw?

What is the plan of this organization because it's been THIRTY EIGHT years of futility. I've been alive for 36 of them.

Again, if you're going to have a GM who is shrewd with role players and likes to sit with a wait and see attitude is 0-1 with trying to lure a star by clearing cap. Now, getting too cute the price has escalated because Melo is scoring in ridiculous sums.

I would love to see the Knicks win a title before I am 50 years old. I Do NOT see going that way if Donnie strikes out AGAIN...

Walsh HAD to understand with D'Antoni, a defenseless system requires BIG time scorers because the pressure by blowing out the other team allows them to REST the starters but the Knicks aren't doing that and you SEE the starters hitting the wall.

[Deeeez Knicks]

So WAIT...we go ahead and blame the front office for past failures but give Donnie a free pass?!?!

Its not a free pass, but judging on results

Past front offices were blamed because we sucked and had no flexibility to improve.

Donnie does not deserve blame because he built a young team on pace for the 6th seed with flexibility to add another superstar and improve even further.

Its a big difference

And everyone seems way too stressed out over Melo right now. No way we are able to trade for him before the deadline. Denvers stalling as long as possible because our deal will still be on the table. Donnies probably right to play it cool. But we will find out

[br7knicks]

i said 42 wins, so i think i'm ok.

[Dr. Detfink]

So WAIT...we go ahead and blame the front office for past failures but give Donnie a free pass?!?!

Its not a free pass, but judging on results

Past front offices were blamed because we sucked and had no flexibility to improve.

Donnie does not deserve blame because he built a young team on pace for the 6th seed with flexibility to add another superstar and improve even further.

Its a big difference

And everyone seems way too stressed out over Melo right now. No way we are able to trade for him before the deadline. Denvers stalling as long as possible because our deal will still be on the table. Donnies probably right to play it cool. But we will find out

You don't need a GM to sit there, dump salary and SUCK while charging $50-5000 per ticket and saying "Next season we're going after Lebron and..."

Now, it's "This summer we're going after Melo!"

What happens if the Knicks strike out and it's Next year wait for...

Again, what has Walsh done with the Pacers? The Knicks made it to the Finals more times than his Pacers during the same stretch...

For Indiana, making the playoffs is a ticker tape parade. For NYC, it's kind of weak.

[Pharmcat]

So WAIT...we go ahead and blame the front office for past failures but give Donnie a free pass?!?!

Its not a free pass, but judging on results

Past front offices were blamed because we sucked and had no flexibility to improve.

Donnie does not deserve blame because he built a young team on pace for the 6th seed with flexibility to add another superstar and improve even further.

Its a big difference

And everyone seems way too stressed out over Melo right now. No way we are able to trade for him before the deadline. Denvers stalling as long as possible because our deal will still be on the table. Donnies probably right to play it cool. But we will find out

the flexibility thing is overrated since all of isiahs trash was expiring this year anyways and team wouldve had the space

[CrazyKnicks]

So WAIT...we go ahead and blame the front office for past failures but give Donnie a free pass?!?!

Its not a free pass, but judging on results

Past front offices were blamed because we sucked and had no flexibility to improve.

Donnie does not deserve blame because he built a young team on pace for the 6th seed with flexibility to add another superstar and improve even further.

Its a big difference

And everyone seems way too stressed out over Melo right now. No way we are able to trade for him before the deadline. Denvers stalling as long as possible because our deal will still be on the table. Donnies probably right to play it cool. But we will find out

the flexibility thing is overrated since all of isiahs trash was expiring this year anyways and team wouldve had the space

But we wouldn't have had Amare and if we signed Melo in the (upcoming) offseason, we would be in the same situation we're in now just a year later.

[Deeeez Knicks]

So WAIT...we go ahead and blame the front office for past failures but give Donnie a free pass?!?!

Its not a free pass, but judging on results

Past front offices were blamed because we sucked and had no flexibility to improve.

Donnie does not deserve blame because he built a young team on pace for the 6th seed with flexibility to add another superstar and improve even further.

Its a big difference

And everyone seems way too stressed out over Melo right now. No way we are able to trade for him before the deadline. Denvers stalling as long as possible because our deal will still be on the table. Donnies probably right to play it cool. But we will find out

You don't need a GM to sit there, dump salary and SUCK while charging $50-5000 per ticket and saying "Next season we're going after Lebron and..."

Now, it's "This summer we're going after Melo!"

What happens if the Knicks strike out and it's Next year wait for...

Again, what has Walsh done with the Pacers? The Knicks made it to the Finals more times than his Pacers during the same stretch...

For Indiana, making the playoffs is a ticker tape parade. For NYC, it's kind of weak.

Well, if you have any better plans I'd love to hear them.

Clearing cap was our best chance to get stars and we had to gut that terrible team. We got one along with Fields and Felton. Now we are the favorite to get another. Maybe 2.

We are the 6th seed too w/ perenial playoff teams ahead of us that had a head start on us. Its not like we're in last place.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Its not a free pass, but judging on results

Past front offices were blamed because we sucked and had no flexibility to improve.

Donnie does not deserve blame because he built a young team on pace for the 6th seed with flexibility to add another superstar and improve even further.

Its a big difference

And everyone seems way too stressed out over Melo right now. No way we are able to trade for him before the deadline. Denvers stalling as long as possible because our deal will still be on the table. Donnies probably right to play it cool. But we will find out

the flexibility thing is overrated since all of isiahs trash was expiring this year anyways and team wouldve had the space

But we wouldn't have had Amare and if we signed Melo in the (upcoming) offseason, we would be in the same situation we're in now just a year later.

You know Melo would be dying to play with Zach, Jamal and Eddy.

Melo would be a Net right now if we waited

[richardhutnik]

Besides my usual chilled about things, where I thought the Knicks are a .500 club, which is 12 games better than last year, and 6 games better than their normal 35 game win seasons, I am seriously chilled on some pain pills, and can't help but NOT care. Wow, so these are what chill pills are. Now excuse me as I join Donnie Walsh in taking a nap. Wake me up when the Melo deal goes through. You know, this state is a TON better than being a fan who is under high anxiety.

- Rich

Its all about the naps. Rich for our next GM!!

Working on it. Since the pain has gone to where the incision was made for the surgery, and away from my leg, I have had to relearn how to sit, lay, stand and so on. Generally little pain here, but still doing stuff.

And I hope my naps don't connect to the wiretap. I did NOT order Felton to be part of a trade for Melo.

- Rich

[Gold Chain]

You guys are finally on the upswing and you want a coaching change? Hmm.

You lucky devils are set to probably set to get one, two more superstars and on to contending status.

Just my humble opinion, but maybe go with it for a while longer?

[richardhutnik]

Hey guys, let's sacrifice ANOTHER season till we become contenders instead of first round knock outs.

Hey Patton, post a picture of a tank.... I DARE YOU!

- Rich

[MG20]

This team have been losing for 8 years in a row, i remember a thread at the beginning of the season and we were all very happy if this team reach mediocrity by winning 41 games...still think the same. Right now, we are not a better team than that.

[nykballa2k4]

The issues people have right now with this team, the legitimate ones, are issues with Feltons point guard skills and Mike D's coaching. Amare is playing better than expected, Galinari is more like what we expected out of the draft, Chandler is beyond expectations, Mozzy has played well of late. AR never gets to play, so we can't judge him. Our team right now is like a sandwich with boars head meats and mold bread. We have great stuff, but our bad parts hurt our good parts.

Felton IS a good player, near allstar level. BUT he is a half court pg that needs to play with 2 good rebounding big men.

Example Felton, Thabo, W. Chandler, Randolph, T. Chandler would be a good starting lineup with Felton getting 25 ppg and like 10 assists from pick and rolls and lobs

[makeitstop]

You guys are finally on the upswing and you want a coaching change? Hmm.

You lucky devils are set to probably set to get one, two more superstars and on to contending status.

Just my humble opinion, but maybe go with it for a while longer?

That'll never work. Some people around here just like crying because we're not undefeated.

Patience is underrated when your goal is to proclaim that the team has failed.

[Dr. Detfink]

No, the Knicks would be able to afford Amare but NOT have two MAX contracts. Then again, they wouldn't have the switch pick in 2011 and give up 2012 pick to Houston that could come in handy to land Melo for a bucket load of expiring deals.

BTW don't make it like Donnie was responsible for Amare. That was more Amare wanting to play with his old coach than Donnie who was SET on getting Lebron.