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Post#281 » by younggunsmn » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:23 am

Iceman, you only complain about Rambis's rotations when your boy Brewer is the one left out in the cold.

Truth is Rambis's wing rotations have been all over the place all year long. He changes his mind about who's "playing the right way" more often than paris hilton changes handbags. It's to the point that it is becoming completely ridiculous. I mean come on, Ellington, Telfair, and Hayward were out there for like 15 minutes straight while Pacer scrubs were shredding us. Sticking with the same unit while it's getting shredded 33-15 in the 4th quarter while Dahntay Jones lights up Elllington for 14 points in one quarter? Then Brewer immediately gives up a wide open 3 to him chasing a steal doubling down on Roy Hibbert (the 7 fiooter shooting under 45%).

The starters built up a nice lead midway through the 3rd. Then Rambis brought the 2nd unit in (and left it in until the game was out of reach) and it was all downhill from there. It's like if a player hits a couple of shots in a row Rambis gets a massive boner for him no matter what his guy is doing on the other end of the court.

Wes is the one guy who can't suck for long periods of time and not get yanked from the game. This goes with the zenmaster/rambis philosophy of being hardest on your most talented players. He played the same games with K-Love last year. I don't think Wes responds well to it at all, and it's not the way I'd run a team. Wes has been playing a really good floor game the past month or so. His shot just hasn't been falling when he can't get minutes. He has dramatically cut down his turnovers (23 AST to 7 TO the last 12 games), his handle looks better, and he is a little more aggressive; he has had a nice drive-and-dish play in several games in a row now.
His D has been good outside of occasionally having a hard time slipping a screen.

To me tonight STUNK of showcasing guys we want to trade or might be involved in one of Kahn's deals. Brewer has had plenty of showcasing already. Tonight was about Telfair, Ellington, and Hayward (whose guaranteed 2011 deal Kahn probably wouldn't mind unloading). If this crap continues after the trade deadline Rambis is going to be known as a guy who prefers playing scrubs over talent.

This game was the worst to watch all year. For the last 18 minutes I had to watch K-Love and a bunch of Wolves scrubs get pummeled by Pacer scrubs who couldn't get off Jim O'Brien's bench.
It was like watching Love play in a JV scrimmage. At least Kosta had a nice game. It was like Rambis was doing research for a book about how to turn off a fanbase. Maybe he's just trying to get fired so he can collect his money and take over for Phil.
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Re: Wolves @ Pacers 

Post#282 » by Ice32 » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:53 am

Yeah I complain when Brewer is left out in the cold, but I think I had a valid reason, and you yourself agreed that we left scrubs on for 15 mins, way too long.

And you are 100% correct when you say Rambis gets a boner when someone else gets hot. It took him 8 mins to finally call a time out in the 4th....This was a game that could have been won.

If the Wolves are showcasing certain players, instead of trying to win ball games, something is wrong. We have 3 starters away at the moment.
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Re: Wolves @ Pacers 

Post#283 » by southern wolf » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:26 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:this sucks, Wes was supposed to be that high floor ready to play guy and he can't even get minutes over guys that 50/50 on even being in the NBA in 5 years


I find myself getting frustrated with Wes in the same way I used to when Mike Miller was on the team. The Miller situation was more of a refusal to shoot, but Wes has such a silky smooth jumpshot like Miller and he still just looks a little lost on offense. I just want to see him playing freely and getting good looks from range more than once in a blue moon.
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Post#284 » by Greco21 » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:24 am

Its a pitty T-wolves could not keep the momentum. The started bad and they finished the game pretty bad too. Its really confusing to see your second unit producing and having to make a decision on who to trust. Then you have Mike Dun shooting the lights out and then D Jones doing the same. It is obvious that when perimeter defense gets going the story is different.
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Re: Wolves @ Pacers 

Post#285 » by shangrila » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:46 am

southern wolf wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:this sucks, Wes was supposed to be that high floor ready to play guy and he can't even get minutes over guys that 50/50 on even being in the NBA in 5 years


I find myself getting frustrated with Wes in the same way I used to when Mike Miller was on the team. The Miller situation was more of a refusal to shoot, but Wes has such a silky smooth jumpshot like Miller and he still just looks a little lost on offense. I just want to see him playing freely and getting good looks from range more than once in a blue moon.

I think it was just a bigger adjustment then any of us gave it credit. I mean, going from basically a stretch 4 to a 2 would have been an adjustment on the college level, let alone trying to adapt to the NBA, new teammates and a new system all at the same time.

Also, did anyone catch the Pacers' announcers talking about how athletic our wings are and how good their handles are? That made me laugh.
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Re: Wolves @ Pacers 

Post#286 » by Breakdown777 » Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:54 am

"Sometimes you make the right decisions, sometimes you don't. The thing is....you won't know until after." - Kurt Rambis.

:nonono:
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Re: Wolves @ Pacers 

Post#287 » by AQuintus » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:20 am

Breakdown777 wrote:"Sometimes you make the right decisions, sometimes you don't. The thing is....you won't know until after." - Kurt Rambis.


Did he honestly say this? :D Incredible.
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Re: Wolves @ Pacers 

Post#288 » by Foye » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:28 am

AQuintus wrote:
Breakdown777 wrote:"Sometimes you make the right decisions, sometimes you don't. The thing is....you won't know until after." - Kurt Rambis.


Did he honestly say this? :D Incredible.

:nonono:

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