Game Thread:Pacers v. Bucks (Lombardi trophy at the BC)

[jerrod]

any protest is going to have to come from outside

[ReasonablySober]

I still think the best thing Squad 6 could do is no longer show up.

Again, disclaimer being it's easy for me to say.

You think the best thing Squad 6 could do is end Squad 6? Interesting take.

Yes. I think it would send a loud and perhaps powerful message. You disagree?

[rilamann]

I still think the best thing Squad 6 could do is no longer show up.

Again, disclaimer being it's easy for me to say.

You think the best thing Squad 6 could do is end Squad 6? Interesting take.

Yes. I think it would send a loud and perhaps powerful message. You disagree?

+1

The team doesn't show up every night and do their job,so why should Squad 6.

[paul]

I still think the best thing Squad 6 could do is no longer show up.

Again, disclaimer being it's easy for me to say.

You think the best thing Squad 6 could do is end Squad 6? Interesting take.

Yes. I think it would send a loud and perhaps powerful message. You disagree?

I think that would be a great shame for a number of reasons.

[austuf]

When a brainless rapist can become a fan favourite it's time for a revolt. IMO

If only Drew Gooden could lovably rape someone, we'd be in business.

Gooden and Salmons have already done that, high-five'd and shouted "Eiffel Tower"!

Hammond hasn't said much since.

[ReasonablySober]

I think that would be a great shame for a number of reasons.

Why?

[GrandAdmiralDan]

As for the "auditions" IIRC it was supposed to be a singular "audition" but roughly 50 people showed up so they added another.

It was like 79 at what was supposed to be the only audition, at the Cousins Center, and then another 28 or 29 at the Bradley Center a couple days later.

In what was another example of the Bucks getting way ahead of themselves and assuming the Bucks had "arrived" after last season and our "great" offseason, they decided not to spend anything on any kind of marketing for the auditions and that we'd have at least 200+ show up to what was supposed to be the first audition.

The ironic thing about bag night (which was awesome) was that is was started and organized by Gad.


Now I'm pretty sure Gad would ''reprimand'' anyone who even thought of doing such a horrible unacceptable thing to the Bucks franchise no matter how bad things got.



I kid I kid.

I'd be all for another bag revolt if/when warranted again. I personally don't think it is yet, although it's sad that we're even CLOSE to that point again. It would be too much of a conflict for me to lead one of those while still doing what I do with Squad 6 though and it would take an unimaginable amount to want to quit Squad 6. Seriously, I can't even fathom anything. That should be reason enough for the Bucks to make sure they keep Squad 6 going in perpetuity. To keep me and my ilk partially/mostly in check

That doesn't stop me from being critical on here, on the radio, etc.
But being brought into the fold a bit more on certain things has led to me giving the Bucks more of a benefit of the doubt, I won't dispute that.

I know you were kidding, but I'd never be upset with any passionate fan who felt something like that was needed. I'm actually glad that people in the BC booed during Saturday's debacle. That stuff just can't be done by members of Squad 6, that's all.

I posted the original idea for wearing a bag to a game about a week before GAD started organizing bagnight. True story. So... I take full credit.

Yeah, it wasn't me who came up with the original idea for a bag night. I didn't recall where the first seedlings of the idea came from, honestly (sorry Midranger! I'll endeavor to remember that!). But it was PP25 who really took the idea further and decided we needed to actually get a group together and have a bag revolt. Someone needed to step up and actually run point on that endeavor, so I did. Spent quite a bit of time organizing that and setting all of that up. Nowak was my right-hand man in all of that, lest I neglect to give him appropriate credit, and I thought would make a better "face" for what we were doing than I would. I'm confident I was correct. That iconic AP photo is the biggest proof

It's very sad that we were able to make the kind of impact we did, only to have ultimately possibly not made the kind of progress as a franchise that we should have. We'll see.

I still think the best thing Squad 6 could do is no longer show up.

Again, disclaimer being it's easy for me to say.

You think the best thing Squad 6 could do is end Squad 6? Interesting take.

Yes. I think it would send a loud and perhaps powerful message. You disagree?

It definitely would.

But it would very likely permanently end Squad 6. I obviously place a lot of value in Squad 6, so I would never want to throw it away, even for what you suggest. Something like Squad 6 hopefully will outlast our current team/franchise woes, outlast Kohl's tenure, outlast Bogut, its founder, even.

[austuf]

But it would very likely permanently end Squad 6. I obviously place a lot of value in Squad 6, so I would never want to throw it away, even for what you suggest. Something like Squad 6 hopefully will outlast our current team/franchise woes, outlast Kohl's tenure, outlast Bogut, its founder, even.

Well said

[RAW]

To the person or persons who said they saw an Area 55 member drop F-Bombs, could you maybe describe him or the situation a little more? I don't recall any of us dropping F-Bombs during the course of the game (although more than a couple of your fans sure did afterwards but that's a different story). I know myself and the vast majority of us that went tried to keep it clean because we knew we were there on behalf of the Pacers and representing them.

If there WAS any foul language involved, I'm sure that there were Bucks fans next to them using that language as well.


Once again I will say that for the most part, you Bucks fans were pretty cool. Very respectful of us and we sure did appreciate those who treated us with good hospitality. Even met a few current and former SquadSix members during and after the game. You guys are good dudes.

[GrandAdmiralDan]

To the person or persons who said they saw an Area 55 member drop F-Bombs, could you maybe describe him or the situation a little more? I don't recall any of us dropping F-Bombs during the course of the game (although more than a couple of your fans sure did afterwards but that's a different story).

Were those fans directing them at you, or at the Bucks for playing like garbage?

I know myself and the vast majority of us that went tried to keep it clean because we knew we were there on behalf of the Pacers and representing them.

Much appreciated. Prior to that ill-informed participant earlier in the thread, you folks always struck me as a classy bunch, in my limited interaction with you guys during our game in Indiana and prior to Saturday's game here.

If there WAS any foul language involved, I'm sure that there were Bucks fans next to them using that language as well.

It's possible. I didn't witness any of that personally and never really commented on that particular issue. But the person who posted that here is a friend of mine, and I know for certain he wouldn't make up what he posted. Perhaps he didn't get the opportunity to witness the full context of the situation, but if he says one of your people was using vulgar language, I believe him.

Once again I will say that for the most part, you Bucks fans were pretty cool. Very respectful of us and we sure did appreciate those who treated us with good hospitality. Even met a few current and former SquadSix members during and after the game. You guys are good dudes.

Thanks. We try. Like I've said, you guys are like us, so we generally do like you guys.
I hope most of you don't equate me not wanting you to have seats closer to the court than what you had paid for with a LACK of hospitality. I definitely didn't want you guys harassed about yelling and being noisy in your seats, or for standing (if there weren't people sitting behind you). But I wanted the Bucks to win that game. Especially with you guys in attendance. I wasn't going to allow you to have MORE of an impact than you were fairly entitled to have. We're competitors, even if we are friendly. That wouldn't make sense.

For what it's worth, I was not trying to get you moved to the 400 level. I was told by one of you that you were in section 205. That is a corner section much, much further from the court than where you all were trying to stand. That's why the face value for the seats you had in 205 are $53.35 and the face for the seats you tried to use in 216 are $91.35. What did you think was going to happen when you vacated those seats to try and get closer to the court? I'm not blind
For anyone who thinks they should have been allowed to stay there, please send me a check for the $1500 or so I could have saved my group on the Indiana trip by just buying $20 seats and sitting in $50 seats, instead of actually buying the $50 seats we were in

I wanted them to move you back to 205. I was confused when you didn't get moved back there, actually. How was I supposed to know that you guys didn't all purchase tickets together? There were only 13 of you! I figured you had at least planned it well enough to be able to get 13 tickets together in the back of a section. Why is it that you didn't? It's not like our ticket sales have been so good where that would have been hard. Our ticket sales and attendance have sucked! And you've had since the night of November 5th to plan your trip.

During that game, if I had attempted to move our group to better seats closer to the court, I would have expected either one of you guys or a Pacers employee to call shenanigans on us and make us move back, so I didn't even try. Also, I didn't want to give anyone any excuse to harass us about standing, being loud, etc.
If I had tried to do that and we were made to move back, I certainly wouldn't have been mad about it. That would have been my own fault

Keep these things in mind for the next road trip you guys plan. It will work out better for you if you do, I assure you.

Once again, it was cool of Roy Hibbert to start up Area 55 for you guys. I've always been a fan of Hibbert. I had wanted the Bucks the year he was drafted to either draft Brook Lopez, Roy Hibbert, or Robin Lopez. Considering where we were drafting, I thought that was our best bet. Instead Hammond drafted Joe Alexander

[RAW]

I think it was just a a spontaneous idea thought up by the Pacers on Friday Night. We didn't find out about it until the 4th quarter against Minnesota. It's not like we decided to do this back in January and waited until the last minute to finalize who was going and what was going on. I think it was just one of those deals where the Pacers were like "Hey, we can get you guys tickets to the Milwaukee game tomorrow if some of you guys are able to make it up there. You in?" You'd have to talk to El Pacero, but from what I gathered the Pacers reps were the ones responsible for getting us the tickets, and all we had to do was pick them up at your ticket office. Us 13 weren't directly responsible for getting the tickets. We actually figured we'd all get put together in the nosebleeds. That's all we really wanted, anyway.

It seems like they had us split into 2 sections. 4 or 5 guys were in 205, but most were in 216 (where I was). There was a whole row behind us that wasn't being used. That's really all we wanted to do in the first place was just sit there. We would've been content. But the usher in that section was not a very nice guy. Very short with his words and just plain rude.

In regards to us moving down, one of the Bucks fans found us and said he had 20 seats open and he'd let us use them if we wanted to move down. That's why we did that. I think that's why a few of our guys were frustrated, because we kept trying to tell the ushers that we were invited down there by the Bucks fan, but they weren't giving us the time of day. We weren't mad because we "got caught" or whatever, we were mad because were asked to leave when a guy invited us to sit in what we thought were his seats.

[GrandAdmiralDan]

I think it was just a a spontaneous idea thought up by the Pacers on Friday Night. We didn't find out about it until the 4th quarter against Minnesota. It's not like we decided to do this back in January and waited until the last minute to finalize who was going and what was going on. I think it was just one of those deals where the Pacers were like "Hey, we can get you guys tickets to the Milwaukee game tomorrow if some of you guys are able to make it up there. You in?" You'd have to talk to El Pacero, but from what I gathered the Pacers reps were the ones responsible for getting us the tickets, and all we had to do was pick them up at your ticket office. Us 13 weren't directly responsible for getting the tickets. We actually figured we'd all get put together in the nosebleeds. That's all we really wanted, anyway.

Ok, so the Pacers reps dropped the ball on this then. That's certainly not my fault
So they decided to get you guys free tickets, and provide a school bus for you to ride up there? That's pretty cool. We all paid for the tickets, bus, etc. for our Indiana trip.
But they really should have planned this earlier than the night before though, I mean, come on

I had really figured you guys would have been planning this for a long time.

It seems like they had us split into 2 sections. 4 or 5 guys were in 205, but most were in 216 (where I was).

There was a whole row behind us that wasn't being used. That's really all we wanted to do in the first place was just sit there. We would've been content.

Hmm. Weird. But I saw some of you guys in 205. You guys didn't all look at your tickets when you got them to see where you were sitting with plans to proceed over there together? You have to think of these things
Had you all just started off in 216, I wouldn't have personally known you weren't supposed to be there.

In regards to us moving down, one of the Bucks fans found us and said he had 20 seats open and he'd let us use them if we wanted to move down. That's why we did that. I think that's why a few of our guys were frustrated, because we kept trying to tell the ushers that we were invited down there by the Bucks fan, but they weren't giving us the time of day. We weren't mad because we "got caught" or whatever, we were mad because were asked to leave when a guy invited us to sit in what we thought were his seats.

Yeah, unless those were actually seats he had tickets to, the ushers are never going to let you do something like that. They're really particular about stuff like that. Plus, with you standing in those seats, where you obstructing anyone's view in rows behind you? They're not going to allow that either. For our setion in Squad 6, we actually have to leave certain seats open so we aren't obstructing people's views (including the a couple rows in the back so the luxury suite people can see) )since we stand the entire game. You've got to check on stuff like that. I don't know what that fan was thinking, but he should know better than to try and invite you guys down to sit in those seats.
You're a pretty conspicuous group (as were we when we went to Conseco). You can't be moving around all over like that, way too noticeable. That's why I never tried to move us closer at Conseco. We stuck out like a sore thumb

Anyway, now you guys will know how to do this better for next time.

[Epicurus]

Never in the course of human events has so much been said by so few about so little.

Eisenhower was less self-aggrandizing and more humble describing the invasion of Normandy. On the other hand, I guess we all try to hold onto childhood with whatever we have available. Not a bad idea given the projection of this out-of-control corporate world.

[GrandAdmiralDan]

Never in the course of human events has so much been said by so few about so little.

That's not true. I've seen it happen at least once before. I once saw a former teacher and surrogate parent of a then NBA head coach go on and on quite frequently (so much) as pretty much the sole defender (so few) of said coach's head coaching ability (so little).

[stevescheffler06]

Never in the course of human events has so much been said by so few about so little.

That's not true. I've seen it happen at least once before. I once saw a former teacher and surrogate parent of a then NBA head coach go on and on quite frequently (so much) as pretty much the sole defender (so few) of said coach's head coaching ability (so little).

Yahtzee.

[Epicurus]

But when did he ever set himself as a real life arbitrator of the behavior of adults at a public arena? No, there is but one here who struts while sitting.

BTW, how was the Bucks record in the season immediately after the head coach you mention? Has it really gotten all that much better, despite the small sponsored cheering section of Guys Who Can't Date (is it Section 8?)

[aboveAverage]

To be fair to the Squad 6 guys, they're obligated to attend every home game of this team, which is torture in itself.

[GrandAdmiralDan]

But when did he ever set himself as a real life arbitrator of the behavior of adults at a public arena? No, there is but one here who struts while sitting.

BTW, how was the Bucks record in the season immediately after the head coach you mention? Has it really gotten all that much better, despite the small sponsored cheering section of Guys Who Can't Date (is it Section 8?)

I have no time for this right now. Why are you even here? Your fascination with what he do over here is strange.

You out of the blue injected yourself in this thread, I bit my tongue rather than get into it with you, but then you posted again, solely to take a personal shot at me. You don't get to keep doing that. I turned the tables on you, and now you're all salty about it to the point you continue to insult me, and now the entirety of Squad 6.

There are numerous members in Squad 6 who have (or have had) girlfriends or wives that are far more impressive than any woman you've likely been with. Myself included. I can't know that for sure, but lest you forget that I have seen what you look like, so I'm reasonably confident. Perhaps long ago in your youth you were more fetching and did well with the ladies. But I've seen not only what you look like, but your wife as well. I don't think you want to be challenging the sex lives of others.

Realize it is YOU who went there. So don't get all indignant about me mentioning your wife. You insulted a number of my friends' wives above.

Now take your medicine, shut up, and quit insulting me and my friends. And I'll play nice.

I have to go now or I'll be late meeting up with my "Guys Who Can't Date" group.

[WRau1]

Uh oh, $hits starting to get real. I'd like to point out that this is far more interesting than anything that has happened on the Bucks this entire season.

[AussieBuck]