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Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011

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Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#1 » by albasuna » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:44 am

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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#2 » by Kerrsed » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:48 am

:nonono:

Judging from the title, this thread should stay pretty empty.
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Post#3 » by MaryvalesFinest » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:52 am

Lol
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#4 » by albasuna » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:53 am

20% chance based on the websites stats. So in every 1 of 5 universes the Suns make the playoffs.
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#5 » by Kerrsed » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:54 am

albasuna wrote:20% chance based on the websites stats. So in every 1 of 5 universes the Suns make the playoffs.


I need to find the 1 universe where Sarver sold the team.
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#6 » by irish22022 » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:09 am

they'll make the playoffs. You really think Memphis and PO will continue winning against nothing? They won't. Man am I hoping we boot Vince right now. Troy Murphy? Two Channing Frye's on one team? I VOTE YES.
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#7 » by sekira » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:56 pm

irish22022 wrote:they'll make the playoffs. You really think Memphis and PO will continue winning against nothing?


lolololol.

Memphis is #9, they don't mean anything. One of the teams currently in 1-8 needs to fall, but that won't happen because they are all much better than the Suns and Grizzlies.

Portland keeps winning, and the suns keep losing to bad teams. The Suns are not a playoff team and have no business being there. Who cares about 8th seed anyways; they'd just lose in the first round anyways.
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#8 » by blackjays1 » Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:49 pm

I'd rather see them miss the playoffs then lose ANOTHER series to the Spurs. At this point im praying for a PF trade that'll push us up to 7th or 6th.
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#9 » by Ninjafish » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:00 pm

How do the Grizzlies have a 63% chance while the Suns only have 13%?

Anyway, I'd rather see the Suns make the playoffs even if they get swept in the first round. I like watching the playoffs, and if the Suns aren't in it, it's going to be boring. I don't want to have to wait a whole year to see some Suns playoff games. And there's always the chance they could shoot lights out and pull out an upset.
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#10 » by Frank Lee » Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:49 pm

Playoff watch ?

We let many more games slip through our fingers like Sactown's... we'll be doing just that.

Playoff..... watch
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#11 » by YFZblu » Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:51 pm

Frank Lee wrote:Playoff watch ?

We let many more games slip through our fingers like Sactown's... we'll be doing just that.

Playoff..... watch


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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#12 » by RvM » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:19 pm

Man that loss against Sac really hurt us, but if you look at this from an optimistic perspective, here's what some guy posted on the general board:

The 5th through 9th spots in the West are separated by just 3 games. Phoenix is 3.5 games out of 6th place so they're also in the race but the 5th spot is looking unlikely. Rank them from where you think they'll finish starting from 5th to 10th in the West.

5. New Orleans Hornets 33-23 (3-7 Last 10)
26 games left, 13 at home/13 on the road
17 games against teams currently @ .500 or better
Main Issue: Getting Okafor back, only 2-5 without him

6. Denver Nuggets 31-24 (4-6 Last 10)
27 games left, 12 at home/15 on the road
16 games against teams currently @ .500 or better
Main Issue: Trading Melo and being just 9-17 on the road

7. Utah Jazz 31-24 (4-6 Last 10)
27 games left, 12 at home/15 on the road
16 games against teams currently @ .500 or better
Main Issue: How they respond to new coach Ty Corbin

8. Portland Trailblazers 30-24 (6-4 Last 10)
28 games left, 16 at home/12 on the road
18 games against teams currently @.500 or better
Main Issue: Seeing how Brandon Roy is able to fit in with Aldridge now the clear cut #1

9. Memphis Grizzlies 30-26 (8-2 Last 10)
26 games left, 15 at home/11 on the road
16 games against teams currently @ .500 or better
Main Issue: Seeing how OJ Mayo fits with his 10 games suspension over

10. Phoenix Suns 26-26 (6-4 Last 10)
30 games left, 14 at home/16 on road
17 games against teams currently @ .500 or better
Main Issue: Probably need a PF upgrade, Frye and Warrick likely not enough

Tiebreakers that are already settled:
Portland over Phoenix
Phoenix over Utah
Memphis over Phoenix
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#13 » by Azsports77 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:05 am

I will say this again I have said it repeatedly until Sarver pulls his head out of his giant ass and either trades for or signs a waived Power forward this team is not making the playoffs. Yes a power forward is very important and thinking that you can have four wings and no power forwards on a team and think you can make the playoffs is sheer stupidity on the part of our jackass of an owner. So for those who think Warrick who is really a small forward and channing Frye who is a center and cannot play the four he has proven that he is mediocre at that spot along with Warrick who is hot garbage at the position as well. Wake up Suns front office and Gentry you need to be putting pressure on Sarver to get you a power forward or rebuild .
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#14 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:08 am

Losing to the Kings at home was a definite WTF moment. I don't get this team. Right when you think they're gona turn the corner, they don't. Right when you think they're going to absolutely tank, they don't. I guess a .500 team is what to expect.
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#15 » by Azsports77 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:31 am

How can you expect anything else a washed up Carter and the bigger problem no Power forward which means you can't even put a complete team on the floor no instead you shove players who have no business playing in that position. Sarver needs to be booed at every game if he doesn't trade or sign a free agent power forward before the trade deadline! He needs to see what happens when you don't do right by the fans !
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#16 » by Wannabe MEP » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:32 am

This board has all the perspective of a junior high cheerleader with a pimple. Calm down, children.

Yes, that was a bad loss. We fell asleep. But this is the National Basketball Association. Even the weaker teams know how to play basketball. Anyone can beat anyone on any given night; the very best teams in this league have all lost to at least one bad team.

We're still 11-5 over our last 16 games. With exactly one bad loss. We were 8-8 over the same stretch last year, and nowhere near this good defensively.
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#17 » by suns32 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:24 am

If the team plays with effort every night I think they will make the Playoffs. No more games like the Sacramento game please!
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#18 » by swe_suns » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:06 pm

Los Soles wrote:This board has all the perspective of a junior high cheerleader with a pimple. Calm down, children.

Yes, that was a bad loss. We fell asleep. But this is the National Basketball Association. Even the weaker teams know how to play basketball. Anyone can beat anyone on any given night; the very best teams in this league have all lost to at least one bad team.

We're still 11-5 over our last 16 games. With exactly one bad loss. We were 8-8 over the same stretch last year, and nowhere near this good defensively.


All this would be encouraging if it wasn't for the fact that we cannot afford to lose any more stupid games. Hell we even need to win difficult games to get into the playoffs...
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#19 » by Wannabe MEP » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:18 pm

Hollinger's formula gives the Suns a 34.8 percent chance to make the playoffs. I think it's much higher than that.

ESPN's John Hollinger wrote:Caveats
Since this is an entirely automated ranking, you'll notice certain "human" factors missing.

It doesn't know which players are about to come back from injury or which teams have been playing without their best players for the past 10 games.

Along the same lines, it doesn't take into account injuries, trades, controversial calls or any other variables -- just the scores, please.

Hollinger's formula doesn't know:

    1) That the Suns are not the same team since the trade (+ some time to develop together).
    2) That the Suns spent much of the early part of the season with no frontcourt while Lopez was injured.
    3) That there's no reason to think the Jazz will get it together.
    4) That Denver might blow it up.
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Re: Playoff Watch: Phoenix Suns 2011 

Post#20 » by albasuna » Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:41 am

so the Suns are banking at a Denver/Utah collapse? seems resonable.

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