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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#81 » by J-Roc » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:06 pm

PdiC wrote:Pretty good take on it by Kelly Dwyer:

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Chris-Bosh-returns-to-Toronto?urn=nba-322291

But, as the two kindly souls I quoted above will be the first to tell you, those boos will ring hollow at their core. Yes, Bosh will be booed quite a bit. But Raptor fans -- most of them -- know what's up. Bosh was never a franchise player, and while he could have handled his move to Miami better, you can't blame the guy for leaving these Raptors for that crew of MVP talents down in South Beach.


And the Raptors fans are right to boo. At the end of Chris' Toronto Story, he left the team. There were good and even great reasons to leave the Toronto Raptors last summer, but he still left the team to go play for another. And in the world of sports, that's a boo-able offense.


Dang, this guy's been reading J-Roc. That second paragraph sums up my argument perfectly.
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#82 » by J-Roc » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:11 pm

From the Raptors Insider email I just received. So whoever puts out these emails is looking for boos.

For at least one game, it's probably to going get loud, angry and continue a long-standing tradition of breaking up proving very hard to do for local fans. Bosh, of course, created quite a division among Raptors fans in the days leading up to and after his departure with several quotes, tweets and appearances that raised more than a few eyebrows.
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#83 » by raptorsriot » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:12 pm

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BorisDK1 wrote: he was legally entitled to do so


WTH does this have to do with anything?!?! We might as well cheer for LeBron, too because he's "legally" playing for Miami.

Bosh plays for another team. We boo him to show him he's no longer supported here. We'll take him
and VC back after they retire, but for now, GTFO Bosh!


It means he played hard and gave the organization every opportunity to build a winner for seven years. He didn't quit half way through his contract like Carter.
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#84 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:16 pm

I knew Chris was cleared with the ankle injury post all starbut didn't play, but now Eric Smiths blog says he was also cleared for the last six games of the season and didn't play. Heck, even Hedo played on a sore ankle and wore a mask.

http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/ericsmith/2011/02/16/bosh-is-back-2/
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#85 » by CreaM » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:19 pm

If Chris came back, we would have made the playoffs and got swept by the cavs. Since he didn't come back prematurely, we got Ed Davis with the 13th pick and he is proving to be our most valuable asset. Lets count our blessings.
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#86 » by Big Shot » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:25 pm

IMO, if you are a raptors fan, you should only cheer for raptors and their players, not the opponents they are playing against.
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#87 » by garbagnani » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:27 pm

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BorisDK1 wrote:Toronto's fans don't deserve to have any good players at all. We deserve to get stuck with the Calderons and Bargnanis of the world just because we're a bunch of insecure, narcissistic jerks.


That's bullshiat. So Boston boos Phil Kessel every time he touches the puck. Does that make Boston sports fans insecure, narcissistic jerks? Or just passionate fans, paying good money, who find another way to express their love of team.

I do envy fans in places like Sacramento who can find pleasure in supporting their rebuilding team without crying and whining over personalities, engaging in character assassination and endless scapegoating, cheering against their own players, hoping they fail, because they have their little narratives and want to be validated. Now that's narcissistic and insecure.


LOL.

Bosh leaves us, we don't like him for it, and we are the jerks?

There is nothing about feeling rejected/disrespected that makes someone insecure or narcissistic, it is a natural reaction when someone shows you know consideration.

Did Orlando cheer for Shaq after he bolted to LA? of course not! The fans hated Shaq.

The things Bosh said to the media, on twitter are inexcusable to me. He even tried to act like he had never seen a big media scrum before (as if that doesn't happened in Toronto). He pined for attention like a schoolgirl. It was a huge turn off.

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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#88 » by ruckus » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:30 pm

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:I knew Chris was cleared with the ankle injury post all starbut didn't play, but now Eric Smiths blog says he was also cleared for the last six games of the season and didn't play. Heck, even Hedo played on a sore ankle and wore a mask.

http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/ericsmith/2011/02/16/bosh-is-back-2/


And who is feeding Smith that information? People with a vested interest in making Bosh look bad, themselves look better and creating hype for the game.

Anyways, my win-win solution is cheer him when he is introduced and boo him during the game.

As others have already said, did anyone really want Bosh to re-sign with this team? I'd wager most people on this board would say no. So, the fact that he left (and I don't care about the manner in which he left) is probably a good thing for the Raptors in the long run.
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#89 » by Vinsane15 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:30 pm

F*** it..I know I may have seemed bitter but now I hope he doesn't get booed...I think silence or some cheers and thats about it...no cheering from his 2nd game back and after that....I mean he did nothing here but he's just Bosh..he made a few all star teams and tried to rep us...we will forget him in 2 years..

@ a few posters here...just don't diss VC while defending Bosh kk?
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#90 » by LittleOzzy » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:36 pm

I just read what might be the worst article of all time concerning the fans in Toronto and who they should hate most.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/basketbal ... -hate?bn=1

According to them it should be
1) Carter
2) Mcgrady
3) Bosh
4) Stoudemire

Like has The Star just completely lost touch with the fan base? Or am I crazy?
That list isn't even close to where I would put them right now. If it was me it would go...

1) Carter
2) Turkoglu
3) Mcgrady
4) Bosh
5) Davis

Stoudemire wouldn't even make my list.
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#91 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:36 pm

ruckus wrote:
theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:I knew Chris was cleared with the ankle injury post all starbut didn't play, but now Eric Smiths blog says he was also cleared for the last six games of the season and didn't play. Heck, even Hedo played on a sore ankle and wore a mask.

http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/ericsmith/2011/02/16/bosh-is-back-2/


And who is feeding Smith that information? People with a vested interest in making Bosh look bad, themselves look better and creating hype for the game.

Anyways, my win-win solution is cheer him when he is introduced and boo him during the game.

As others have already said, did anyone really want Bosh to re-sign with this team? I'd wager most people on this board would say no. So, the fact that he left (and I don't care about the manner in which he left) is probably a good thing for the Raptors in the long run.


I think he would appreciate the support. But I don't want him to be able to leave and still get to enjoy our support. Why should he get the win win. He got a heck of a lot more out of our 7 years together than we did. Once upon a time he was somebody in Toronto. I hope he a nobody for the rest of his career.
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#92 » by ruckus » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:36 pm

garbagnani wrote:Did Orlando cheer for Shaq after he bolted to LA? of course not! The fans hated Shaq.


Thats a terrible comparison. Shaq is a once in a lifetime player. A true franchise player. Bosh is/was a pseudo-franchise player. Good enough to get paid the big bucks. Not good enough to actually lead a team somewhere.
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#93 » by garbagnani » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:36 pm

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J-Roc wrote:
BorisDK1 wrote: he was legally entitled to do so


WTH does this have to do with anything?!?! We might as well cheer for LeBron, too because he's "legally" playing for Miami.

Bosh plays for another team. We boo him to show him he's no longer supported here. We'll take him
and VC back after they retire, but for now, GTFO Bosh!


It means he played hard and gave the organization every opportunity to build a winner for seven years. He didn't quit half way through his contract like Carter.


how can you say this?

we had a chance at playoffs last year. he was cleared to play, but chose not to play! that isn't playing hard for your organization! that is giving up on your organization!!

people keep bringing up the stupid **** he said during his departure. Nothing sealed it for me more than what he said just a few games into the season. He was being critized for lack of rebounding. Bosh says "well i can't just stand under the basket and wait for the ball to come to me anymore"

Anything to get that 20/10 eh Chris!?

I used to be a Bosh fan, until i realized that he is a career loser that only cares about getting his numbers. That last game of season two years ago sealed it for me, that game he needed 19 boards to average 20/10. He played like a man possessed. I have never seen him rebound so well (or hustle for rebounds).
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#94 » by J-Roc » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:38 pm

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:I knew Chris was cleared with the ankle injury post all starbut didn't play, but now Eric Smiths blog says he was also cleared for the last six games of the season and didn't play. Heck, even Hedo played on a sore ankle and wore a mask.

http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/ericsmith/2011/02/16/bosh-is-back-2/


So now it comes out. Chris Bosh quit on the Toronto Raptors. What could we have accomplished with 6 games to go?

Oh wait, he was "legally" right to sit out those last 6 games to make sure he wasn't injured going into free agency.
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#95 » by garbagnani » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:39 pm

ruckus wrote:
garbagnani wrote:Did Orlando cheer for Shaq after he bolted to LA? of course not! The fans hated Shaq.


Thats a terrible comparison. Shaq is a once in a lifetime player. A true franchise player. Bosh is/was a pseudo-franchise player. Good enough to get paid the big bucks. Not good enough to actually lead a team somewhere.


that is a terrible critcism of what i said.

Shaq was hated because he turned his back on the Magic. Same reason bosh should be hated by Raptors fans. Shaq was magics best player, bosh was ours, its the exact same thing. If bosh was half as good as shaq we would all be alot more upset, the only thing mitigating our frustrations is the realization that Bosh is no Shaq, we are better off without him and his stat padding.
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#96 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:40 pm

J-Roc wrote:
theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:I knew Chris was cleared with the ankle injury post all starbut didn't play, but now Eric Smiths blog says he was also cleared for the last six games of the season and didn't play. Heck, even Hedo played on a sore ankle and wore a mask.

http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/ericsmith/2011/02/16/bosh-is-back-2/


So now it comes out. Chris Bosh quit on the Toronto Raptors. What could we have accomplished with 6 games to go?

Oh wait, he was "legally" right to sit out those last 6 games to make sure he wasn't injured going into free agency.


We could have went to the playoffs so Chris wouldn't have had to feel like a changed animal needs a bite of steak.

But let's be real if Chris hadn't have given up on the idea he could lead a team first, we would have.
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#97 » by garbagnani » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:42 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:I just read what might be the worst article of all time concerning the fans in Toronto and who they should hate most.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/basketbal ... -hate?bn=1

According to them it should be
1) Carter
2) Mcgrady
3) Bosh
4) Stoudemire

Like has The Star just completely lost touch with the fan base? Or am I crazy?
That list isn't even close to where I would put them right now. If it was me it would go...

1) Carter
2) Turkoglu
3) Mcgrady
4) Bosh
5) Davis

Stoudemire wouldn't even make my list.


I hate tmac more than turk. Turk sucked and was lazy, but we got rid of him easily enough.

Tmac left us right when were were about to be a superteam with two of the best young players in the League. I hated him for that!
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#98 » by J-Roc » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:46 pm

Last 6 games of last season. We went 2-4, including a clunker at home vs Chicago. If anything, he just needed to come back for the Atlanta game, to be ready for the biggest game of the year vs the Bulls two days later.

Tue 06 @ Cleveland L 101-113
Wed 07 vs Boston L 104-115
Fri 09 @ Atlanta L 101-107
Sun 11 vs Chicago L 88-104
Mon 12 @ Detroit W 111-97
Wed 14 vs New York W 131-113
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#99 » by Too Late Crew » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:50 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:I just read what might be the worst article of all time concerning the fans in Toronto and who they should hate most.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/basketbal ... -hate?bn=1

According to them it should be
1) Carter
2) Mcgrady
3) Bosh
4) Stoudemire

Like has The Star just completely lost touch with the fan base? Or am I crazy?
That list isn't even close to where I would put them right now. If it was me it would go...

1) Carter
2) Turkoglu
3) Mcgrady
4) Bosh
5) Davis

Stoudemire wouldn't even make my list.



I agree. Why hate Stoudamire? He got traded for goodness sakes and he's always said great things about toronto even that he wished he hadn't had to leave. Don't get that at all

My list

1) Carter
2) Turkoglu
3) Davis
4) Bosh
5).Tmac

I always get a kick out of the hate for Tmac. Yes he left and yes it would have been nice to have him and VC but he was afree agent. He never did anything resembling quitting on the court in fact he performed better at the end than at any other time.

All becuase he said some things in the media when no contract was actually signed.
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Re: The Case to cheer Chris Bosh 

Post#100 » by Vinsane15 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:56 pm

Too Late Crew wrote:
LittleOzzy wrote:I just read what might be the worst article of all time concerning the fans in Toronto and who they should hate most.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/basketbal ... -hate?bn=1

According to them it should be
1) Carter
2) Mcgrady
3) Bosh
4) Stoudemire

Like has The Star just completely lost touch with the fan base? Or am I crazy?
That list isn't even close to where I would put them right now. If it was me it would go...

1) Carter
2) Turkoglu
3) Mcgrady
4) Bosh
5) Davis

Stoudemire wouldn't even make my list.



I agree. Why hate Stoudamire? He got traded for goodness sakes and he's always said great things about toronto even that he wished he hadn't had to leave. Don't get that at all

My list

1) Carter
2) Turkoglu
3) Davis
4) Bosh
5).Tmac

I always get a kick out of the hate for Tmac. Yes he left and yes it would have been nice to have him and VC but he was afree agent. He never did anything resembling quitting on the court in fact he performed better at the end than at any other time.

All becuase he said some things in the media when no contract was actually signed.


haha look at this hypocrite...Damon cried on his way out...said some sh*t right after he was traded....VC always said good things about Toronto and yet u got him at #1 smh.

T-Mac dissed both Toronto the city and the Raptors franchise. F*** him..

it should be:

1.Turkoglu
2. Salmons
3. Turkoglu
4. McGrady
5. Turkoglu..

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