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[Camelo Thread Part 18] - Al Iannazone (Nets Are Back Pg 77)

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Post#1361 » by NYK0605 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:02 am

Jitpal wrote:Still not offering more than Chandler, TPE/Curry and a 1st/Randolph. Maybe an Azibuike for Birdman swap. Take it or leave it. I won't shed a tear if Melo doesn't come. -Jitpal

Are you duretta's son?

Amazing how people are so against getting Carmelo.
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Post#1362 » by mpharris36 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:04 am

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mpharris36 wrote:derrick favors and his 2 pts and 5 rebounds in 20 minutes looks good doesn't it denver???


you do know he has potential though right? haha

:lol:

He doesn't even have the wow factor. Not a good shot, not a great rebounder, he is a decent athlete...doesn't play great defense also. Just dont see star. I see a nice bench player but thats about it
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 18] - Al Iannazone (Nets Are Back Pg 77) 

Post#1363 » by NYsportsfan6230 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:04 am

My absolute max offer to Denver would be:

Chandler, Mozgov, Randolph/1st, Curry, and any bench player.

No Gallo and no Fields.

Take it or leave it, I'm done with this ish.
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 18] - Al Iannazone (Nets Are Back Pg 77) 

Post#1364 » by GONYK » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:04 am

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Jitpal wrote:Still not offering more than Chandler, TPE/Curry and a 1st/Randolph. Maybe an Azibuike for Birdman swap. Take it or leave it. I won't shed a tear if Melo doesn't come. -Jitpal

Are you duretta's son?

Amazing how people are so against getting Carmelo.

People aren't against it. We are against overpaying when we don't have to.

The only justification for overpaying is Melo pussing out. That's it.
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Post#1365 » by knicks9784 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:07 am

IllegalDefense wrote:this might be a good thing. Nets make an offer, melo says no. Knicks make a crap offer and they have to take it or keep him the rest of the season.


i dont think the nets are even close to in it anymore. with the trade deadline so close the nets need a lot more time than the knicks do to get a deal done, cause they still have to meet with melo and convince him. thats a big extra step that most likely will take more than a 2 hour sitdown with prokho. so the nets need an agreement in place yesterday basically in order to get a chance to convince melo.
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Post#1366 » by Moose » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:07 am

i dont think jon barry is a hater...im pretty sure he wouldnt mind melo going to the knicks.


melo just said hes thinking about how so many of his teammates and karl are free agents after this season and that is on his mind.

he still comes off fairly honest and likable after all this crap.


and we dont know if he will be traded or not, you cant predict it just because the knicks played well tonight haha. for most of them, playing basketball is probably the only thing that gives them peace of mind when it comes to the business side of the league.


personally, it would be great to sign melo as a free agent, but if we trade felton, chandler, AR, walker, TD, in some sort of trade(s) that gets us melo and billups and maybe others (telfair) i would not mind.

We can find a solid PG in 2012 if it doesnt happen to be one of the big ones (there are some solid guys available, not to mention howard if u want a center)...if we can keep gallo and fields that will help with our depth for the long run.

i can live with moz, amare, melo, fields, billups or amare, gallo, melo, fields billups or moz, amare, melo, gallo, billups...all depending on matchups and game flow. We'd still probably need a shooting/scoring sg (maybe mayo)...and of course a reboudning, defensive center.
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Post#1367 » by vallen » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:08 am

NYK0605 wrote:
Jitpal wrote:Still not offering more than Chandler, TPE/Curry and a 1st/Randolph. Maybe an Azibuike for Birdman swap. Take it or leave it. I won't shed a tear if Melo doesn't come. -Jitpal

Are you duretta's son?

Amazing how people are so against getting Carmelo.



They gave them a fringe playoff team and there ready to settle....
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Post#1368 » by GONYK » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:08 am

adog50 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
adog50 wrote:

Yeah, i am Really smart. And actually im 19. Im not a Old man like you probably are. One of those Gallo Fans that think he's better then Carmelo Anthony. Ok, and im the dumb one.


Just from the sentence above, it is clear you must be a Rhodes Scholar.

I hope when Donnie messes this up because he loves Gallo so much, they hire you. I mean, with your 19 years on this earth and staggering basketball acumen, I can't see any way you aren't qualified.



Ok. You Won :D !!


:lol:

It's all good. I'm not even trying to come at you personally. Just your mentality.

I feel like what you are saying is so dismissive of the legit reasons for not gutting the team for Melo, that it borders on irresponsible that you want Donnie to have the same mindset.
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Post#1369 » by NYK0605 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:08 am

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Jitpal wrote:Still not offering more than Chandler, TPE/Curry and a 1st/Randolph. Maybe an Azibuike for Birdman swap. Take it or leave it. I won't shed a tear if Melo doesn't come. -Jitpal

Are you duretta's son?

Amazing how people are so against getting Carmelo.

People aren't against it. We are against overpaying when we don't have to.

The only justification for overpaying is Melo pussing out. That's it.

lol at overpaying.

If it came down to at the last minute and the offer was Felton, Gallo, Chandler,Curry, for Melo and Billups id do the deal.

Billups
Fields
Melo
Amare
Mozgov

TD
Williams
Turiaf
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 18] - Al Iannazone (Nets Are Back Pg 77) 

Post#1370 » by GONYK » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:09 am

vallen wrote:
NYK0605 wrote:
Jitpal wrote:Still not offering more than Chandler, TPE/Curry and a 1st/Randolph. Maybe an Azibuike for Birdman swap. Take it or leave it. I won't shed a tear if Melo doesn't come. -Jitpal

Are you duretta's son?

Amazing how people are so against getting Carmelo.



They gave them a fringe playoff team and there ready to settle....

There is a HUGE difference between settling and preferring to build the right way
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Post#1371 » by GONYK » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:11 am

NYK0605 wrote:lol at overpaying.

If it came down to at the last minute and the offer was Felton, Gallo, Chandler,Curry, for Melo and Billups id do the deal.

Billups
Fields
Melo
Amare
Mozgov

TD
Williams
Turiaf
Walker

Congrats.

Do you disagree that the only justification for that deal is that you are afraid of Melo bitching out?
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Post#1372 » by tangotai » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:12 am

GONYK wrote:
NYK0605 wrote:
Jitpal wrote:Still not offering more than Chandler, TPE/Curry and a 1st/Randolph. Maybe an Azibuike for Birdman swap. Take it or leave it. I won't shed a tear if Melo doesn't come. -Jitpal

Are you duretta's son?

Amazing how people are so against getting Carmelo.

People aren't against it. We are against overpaying when we don't have to.

The only justification for overpaying is Melo pussing out. That's it.



I think it's great they are trotting out NJ again. Until I hear Melo say I will sign an extension with the Nyets... nothing is happening.

Imagine if Ujiri is stupid enough to put Melo in that position. Melo knows the Knicks are trying to trade for him and if he says something like "well the FO can trade me or not, but I will not sign an extension if I'm traded to NJ before the deadline...."

Where does that leave Denver? Begging for our offer.... that's where.

All Melo has to do to make the trade happen to us is say "I won't sign an extension with NJ"

Simple.
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Post#1373 » by NYK0605 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:13 am

GONYK wrote:
NYK0605 wrote:lol at overpaying.

If it came down to at the last minute and the offer was Felton, Gallo, Chandler,Curry, for Melo and Billups id do the deal.

Billups
Fields
Melo
Amare
Mozgov

TD
Williams
Turiaf
Walker

Congrats.

Do you disagree that the only justification for that deal is that you are afraid of Melo bitching out?

Melo bitching out? Of what? Siging here in the summer?

Who cares, we have no idea whats on the guys mind and we all know moneyis a huge factor in all athletes decisions. To say with al lthe uncertainty that he would be "bitching out" is ludacrious when you aren't even his shoes. Please stop.
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Post#1374 » by vallen » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:13 am

There is a HUGE difference between settling and preferring to build the right way


I agree, as long as the right way doesnt include trading Youth, a first round Draft Pick, and the ability to trade future Picks, just to get rid of a contract that would have expired anyway, and have to wait till 2012...
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Post#1375 » by adog50 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:14 am

:lol:

It's all good. I'm not even trying to come at you personally. Just your mentality.

I feel like what you are saying is so dismissive of the legit reasons for not gutting the team for Melo, that it borders on irresponsible that you want Donnie to have the same mindset.



I just dont get why people think Were gutting the roster. Say we Give Up Chandler Gallo , Were getting back Carmelo who plays twice as many minuets as Gallo. And is a better player, we trade away Chandler which leaves room for Buike to return. And hes an explosive dude. Im tired of loosing. Im all for the do what ever it takes to get Carmelo. Amare cant do it alone.

And i hope your watching the Bucks game. 21 Points in the first half for Carmelo. Destroying his opponents.
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Post#1376 » by nykinoz » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:16 am

Whats the Cap situation this coming offseason if we trade Gallo, Will, Curry Felton and AR for Melo and Billups at the deadline?
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 18] - Al Iannazone (Nets Are Back Pg 77) 

Post#1377 » by mpharris36 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:17 am

adog50 wrote:
:lol:

It's all good. I'm not even trying to come at you personally. Just your mentality.

I feel like what you are saying is so dismissive of the legit reasons for not gutting the team for Melo, that it borders on irresponsible that you want Donnie to have the same mindset.



I just dont get why people think Were gutting the roster. Say we Give Up Chandler Gallo , Were getting back Carmelo who plays twice as many minuets as Gallo. And is a better player, we trade away Chandler which leaves room for Buike to return. And hes an explosive dude. Im tired of loosing. Im all for the do what ever it takes to get Carmelo. Amare cant do it alone.

And i hope your watching the Bucks game. 21 Points in the first half for Carmelo. Destroying his opponents.


gallo played 37 minutes tonight so if we are going by what you said Melo would be playing 74 minutes tonight??? lat time I checked there were only 48 minutes in an nba game. I think you may be a tad off :-?
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Post#1378 » by vallen » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:18 am

nykinoz wrote:Whats the Cap situation this coming offseason if we trade Gallo, Will, Curry Felton and AR for Melo and Billups at the deadline?



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Post#1379 » by Falstaffxx » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:18 am

mpharris36 wrote:
adog50 wrote:
:lol:

It's all good. I'm not even trying to come at you personally. Just your mentality.

I feel like what you are saying is so dismissive of the legit reasons for not gutting the team for Melo, that it borders on irresponsible that you want Donnie to have the same mindset.



I just dont get why people think Were gutting the roster. Say we Give Up Chandler Gallo , Were getting back Carmelo who plays twice as many minuets as Gallo. And is a better player, we trade away Chandler which leaves room for Buike to return. And hes an explosive dude. Im tired of loosing. Im all for the do what ever it takes to get Carmelo. Amare cant do it alone.

And i hope your watching the Bucks game. 21 Points in the first half for Carmelo. Destroying his opponents.


gallo played 37 minutes tonight so if we are going by what you said Melo would be playing 74 minutes tonight??? lat time I checked there were only 48 minutes in an nba game. I think you may be a tad off :-?


Not to mention the notion that Chandler's departure would "clear the way for Azubuike."
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Post#1380 » by GONYK » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:19 am

adog50 wrote:
:lol:

It's all good. I'm not even trying to come at you personally. Just your mentality.

I feel like what you are saying is so dismissive of the legit reasons for not gutting the team for Melo, that it borders on irresponsible that you want Donnie to have the same mindset.



I just dont get why people think Were gutting the roster. Say we Give Up Chandler Gallo , Were getting back Carmelo who plays twice as many minuets as Gallo. And is a better player, Trade aways Chandler which leaves Room for Buike to return. And hes an Explosive Dude. Im tired of loosing. Im all for the do what ever it takes to get Carmelo. Amare cant do it alone.

And i hope your watching the Bucks game. 21 Points in the first half for Carmelo. Destroying his opponents.

I don't care how Melo playing. The whole reason this is happening is because Melo is good at scoring. Him playing well is not some revelation. But yea, he's tearing it up.

But we are gutting the roster. You are telling me we wouldn't be dangerous with a supersub like Gallo coming off the bench? Or three players in the top 15 in the NBA at FTA on the same team?

Getting Carmelo doesn't make us top tier. Not by himself, and not if we leave ourselves too thin in other areas.

All of it makes even less sense, because the only reason we would be looking at losing so many valued players is because we are afraid Melo gets cold feet or hurt feelings. Really? Is that the reason to toss away assets?

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