Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2

[Kevin Willis]

Honeycutt? The guy has had just 4 games all year that he shot over 0.500. And only one since Dec. 29. Those numbers scare me a lot.

His offense right now is poor. His vision is good though and he's a good defender.

He's more of a Bowen type potential on D with point-forward attributes than he is a typical SF. He is an ok fit next to Bargs and DD.

[God Squad]

Can Stern please remove the age restriction. Austin Rivers is an absolute beast right now. He is going to be a stud.

No

I agree lol

[sunny]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/ ... ortCat=ncb

interesting article

[arbsn]

I think our draft board should look something like:

1. Perry Jones - would fit perfect as our starting 3 add much needed size
2. Kyrie Irving - has cp3-like potential
3. Terrance Jones - enough size and skill to start on our team
4. Harrison Barnes
5. Jordan Hamilton

We don't need undersized or European bigs right now.

[Reef]

I think our draft board should look something like:

1. Perry Jones - would fit perfect as our starting 3 add much needed size
2. Kyrie Irving - has cp3-like potential
3. Terrance Jones - enough size and skill to start on our team
4. Harrison Barnes
5. Jordan Hamilton

We don't need undersized or European bigs right now.

Good thing you're not the GM. Jordan Hamilton 5th? I'd take Sullinger or Kanter before him any day.

[arbsn]

Good thing you're not the GM. Jordan Hamilton 5th? I'd take Sullinger or Kanter before him any day.

Kanters is a gamble. He's an undersized, European C. Sullinger is solid but he doesnt fit into our team unless we trade Ed Davis or Amir Johnson.

[Reef]

Good thing you're not the GM. Jordan Hamilton 5th? I'd take Sullinger or Kanter before him any day.

Kanters is a gamble. He's an undersized, European C. Sullinger is solid but he doesnt fit into our team unless we trade Ed Davis or Amir Johnson.

Hamilton has a lot of flaws like defense and his lack of athleticism. He's decent but not a top 5 pick.

Kanter is a gamble at this point. I am concerned about his size. I've read reports of his height being listed from 6-9 to 6-11. If it's 6-11, then we seriously need to consider him. He actually plays in the post and rebounds.

Sullinger is another PF and we're already loaded at that position, but he's been dominating in college and we can always trade him or Amir later on. If a miracle happens and Bargs is traded, I wouldn't mind a Davis-Sullinger frontcourt as a stop-gap until we get a real center. At least they're not soft and rebound. Amir or Bargs could come off the bench to back either up.

[crosswalkryan]

Anyone been watching Terrence Jones play?
I've caught a few UK games and I've seen good to great D, good rebounding, OK shooting. Doesn't create off the dribble though. Could fit in well with our team.
Good size/quickness to guard NBA SF's too.

17.8/9 with 2bpg and 1.2 spg, not bad college line

They have him playing some PF and some SF but i could see him being a full time SF in the NBA.

[arbsn]

I don't disagree, but even if Sullinger is BPA, we should be drafting based on need.

Plus Amir Johnson and Ed Davis are both untradable (No GM in the NBA would take Amir's contract and Ed Davis is playing beyond expectation on a rookie scale contact so its doubtful he's traded)

Priorities:
1) Elite PG
2) SF
3) Defensive Center


All I've seen from Kanter is his Nike Hoop Summit highlights and he's not a defensive force whatsoever and Sullinger fit none of those needs.

[arbsn]

I have a feeling BC would take Enes Kanter before T Jones, J Hamilton and H. Barnes

[SkywalkerAC]

really? i doubt BC goes for a center, or a big at all, unless it's a can't-miss.

BC has to be craving 3-point shooting at this point, while wanting to continue getting more athletic. the 3 ball is the name of the game, along with the dribble-drive.

more and more it's looking like Harrison Barnes should be the prime target. doesn't have great dribble-drive skills but he'll have the long ball down (in workouts), has size and decent athleticism, he'll put some butts in the seats, and he's got Toronto-style attitude/demeanor. upside, ability to make an impact as a rookie, solid fit with the core, size/skill.

BC has always valued great shooting while being pretty indifferent to traditional bigs. makes a lot more sense for him to go for a sharpshooting wing when we've got minutes available at that spot.

[Reef]

I don't disagree, but even if Sullinger is BPA, we should be drafting based on need.

Plus Amir Johnson and Ed Davis are both untradable (No GM in the NBA would take Amir's contract and Ed Davis is playing beyond expectation on a rookie scale contact so its doubtful he's traded)

Priorities:
1) Elite PG
2) SF
3) Defensive Center


All I've seen from Kanter is his Nike Hoop Summit highlights and he's not a defensive force whatsoever and Sullinger fit none of those needs.

We need talent, period. We're not good enough to draft based on need. Remember Arujuo? We picked him because we needed a center. He's not even in the league anymore.

Amir's contract is not untradeable at all. His numbers show great defense and offensive efficiency. I wouldn't trade Ed.

If Kanter could be at least average on D, I wouldn't have a problem with that, as long as he can rebound well. That alone would be a huge upgrade of Bargnani who's one of the worst defensive and rebounding centers of all time. If you you pair Kanter with Davis, that could be a very decent frontcourt. I haven't seen enough of Kanter to make that judgement though. Sullinger does not fit a positional need but he does fill a talent need.

[sunny]

we need the regulars posting more - the last few posts are out of the norm.

[sunny]

I think our draft board should look something like:

1. Perry Jones - would fit perfect as our starting 3 add much needed size
2. Kyrie Irving - has cp3-like potential
3. Terrance Jones - enough size and skill to start on our team
4. Harrison Barnes
5. Jordan Hamilton

We don't need undersized or European bigs right now.

2 of your top 3 are undersized for the position they will likely play in the nba. plus you have Jordan Hamilton as a top 5 pick in the draft.
get real

[sunny]

I don't disagree, but even if Sullinger is BPA, we should be drafting based on need.

Plus Amir Johnson and Ed Davis are both untradable (No GM in the NBA would take Amir's contract and Ed Davis is playing beyond expectation on a rookie scale contact so its doubtful he's traded)

Priorities:
1) Elite PG
2) SF
3) Defensive Center


All I've seen from Kanter is his Nike Hoop Summit highlights and he's not a defensive force whatsoever and Sullinger fit none of those needs.

I'm pretty sure that almost every gm in the league would take Amir's contract.

priorities are talent that isn't a pf. Really, nothing else will be a huge impact in terms of draft needs.

[sunny]

"We need talent, period. We're not good enough to draft based on need. Remember Arujuo? We picked him because we needed a center. He's not even in the league anymore. "

huge difference.

thats an example of drafting for a specific need. The raps will be drafting anyone that isn't a pf.

Wanna know why? because drafting a pf will hinder their development and would be detrimental to our team (and the prospect).

[Reef]

"We need talent, period. We're not good enough to draft based on need. Remember Arujuo? We picked him because we needed a center. He's not even in the league anymore. "

huge difference.

thats an example of drafting for a specific need. The raps will be drafting anyone that isn't a pf.

Wanna know why? because drafting a pf will hinder their development and would be detrimental to our team (and the prospect).

Not a huge difference. The raptors didn't want to draft Iggy when they had Vince or like last year, we drafted Ed when we already had Amir, with Reggie backing him up because Ed was the BPA. If the best player available is a PF and there's a huge drop-off in talent at the next pick, you better take the PF. You can always trade your pick or make room on your roster by trading someone.

[Randle McMurphy]

Honeycutt? The guy has had just 4 games all year that he shot over 0.500. And only one since Dec. 29. Those numbers scare me a lot.

The offensive role he would play in the NBA would be a lot different than the offensive role he is playing for UCLA.

[hype_2004]

I'm always impressed with size, strength, quickness and skills combination and I'm thoroughly impressede from what I've seen from Derrick Williams. This guy is a legit 6'9 245 lbs SF, just so athletic, has great body control and high motor and IQ. Guys like Williams with his combination of aggression,size, athleticism and strength usually dominates at the next level. I have a very good feeling that this kid will be a stud from day one.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

C.J. Leslie of NC State is impressing me right now.

14 pts, 6-10 FG, 2-2 3pt FG, 3 rebs.

He has the longest arms I've ever seen from a SF.