[Camelo Thread Part 19] - Nyets won't be used pg 52

[Li'l Penny]

Kroenke and Ujiri are a bunch of clowns.

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[Joseph17]

Do you think NY would agree to the trade Denver proposed if Denver included Nene in the deal?

[ibraheim718]

I'll tell you all right now this ain't going to free agancy!

EDIT: I'm willing to make anyone a beat this don't go into free agency. I win you disappear.... you win I disappear from the forum forever.

[tangotai]

Denver FO drooling:

How about that DERRICK THE SAVIOR FAVORS .....

he is Denver 's messianic hope to lead them to the land beyond Melo.

[ComboGuardCity]

Do you want me to dig up my tweet from when I asked Coon what he could see Melo signing for as a free agent? It's no false idea. And the kid doesn't have the charisma of even an Amar'e so the endorsements are going to be the same (to me) wherever he goes. I just know one thing if he signs the extension for either Denver or NJ I ain't going to be mad at him. 65MILLLION GUARANTEED!!!! Guaranteed..... is a lot of coin. If he doesn't all it takes is one torn patella or a serious back injury for him to never have the chance to sign a contract like this ever again. I'm not saying he will or he won't but I'm definitely not going to hate on the guy if he does. He's gotta do what he's gotta do.

Truth. People need to realize how much money that actually is.

[dvjnba]

It really seems like Denver would rather trade him for trash just to spite the Knicks. That is just wrong and unprofessional. Then again, what can we do?

Nothing. This thing was always in Melo's hands. The Nyets were not going to just go away. Not only are they bad and desperate, but they can't afford for him to go to their much stronger and more popular local competitor.

So them ending it was not realistic. Melo has to end it. But I don't really know what he's made of. He appears to be ready to cave but some reports say he's still not interested in the Nyets. Who knows. Money usually trumps everything though, so we should be prepared.

Talk is cheap. He said he's all about winning and we know he wants MSG badly, and said he doesn't care about money as much as winning, but will he follow through on that? I have my doubts. Up to Melo to walk the walk. FUNNY PART: The new CBA will not hurt Melo very much but I don't know if he understands that. It is an IMAGINED risk and not a real one. But imagined risks are very common, especially when it comes to money, and they tend to be powerful. So we should be ready for the tent folding to occur.

As for Denver, they're a mess. This is a team that can't get their offers straight, that gave a big contract to Al Harrington and a long-term deal to Balkman. They are a poor organization. So it's impossible to believe that they'd figure out that the Nets offer is not really that good. Really, the Nets would be getting him for a bag of garbage.

At least the Knicks are dealing them established good players. A lottery bust and a mediocre lottery pick are nothing to get excited about at all. It may excite guys like The Rebel but ... this is a guy who thought he could deal Billups for Wade and a draft pick. So that tells you what we're dealing with here. The Rebel probably represents the average Nuggets front office thinking.

Come on KG be fair. Favors is how old? 19 or 20. He's played what half a season? And he's a bust? Well if he's a bust than Randolph is a bigger bust (which I don't believe) but teams still want him.

You better check Randolphs stats last year before making that statement.

[Clyde_Style]

Unlike most of you on here I am not going to profess to know carmelo as a person. I don't know what he values more in his life right now. Waiting until F/A and seeing what the new collective bargaining agreement is going to look like or signing his extension. People need to seriously stop acting like they know what the f is going on in the kids life right now. And people need to definitely stop acting like it's soooo easssy to walk away from 65mil. Heck most of us would do a lot worse than play for the NJ NETS in the national basketball association for 500 grand.

Exactamundo. People here speak with such authority making big assumptions as if they have knowledge or insight into what is going on, what people involved really think, feel or value and what Melo is willing to settle for. It is getting pathetic reading all the back seat drivers who think they know what another person wants.

We don't know who Melo really is as a human being and we won't know much more until we see what his role is in this drama boils down to. In the end, the Nuggets can only pull off a deal with Melo's final input. No team is going to take on Melo blind without some assurances about his intentions. And it was destined to go down to the wire anyway. That's the nature of the beast.

I said a little while back that until Melo proves otherwise, the only safe assumption is he is driven by money first and everything else is secondary. That's what drives most people in this situation. Since talk is cheap, and anyone can say they want to play in NY, we won't know if that was a legit stand he is taking or just hopeful mumblings that he won't go to the wall to defend.

But we don't know until we know. Claiming to know what Melo will accept is a fool's game and there are a lot of fools out there, primarily in the media (with a few here).

[BBALLER4FR]

And the kid doesn't have the charisma of even an Amar'e so the endorsements are going to be the same (to me) wherever he goes. I just know one thing if he signs the extension for either Denver or NJ I ain't going to be mad at him. 65MILLLION GUARANTEED!!!! Guaranteed..... is a lot of coin. If he doesn't all it takes is one torn patella or a serious back injury for him to never have the chance to sign a contract like this ever again. I'm not saying he will or he won't but I'm definitely not going to hate on the guy if he does. He's gotta do what he's gotta do.

He's a NY (Syracuse) kid. Marbury had the personality of sod and ate Vaseline but made COIN in NY. Nevermind Melo being the easiest scorer in the league, you think his personality is a problem? Ugh. And $65 million guaranteed is worthless if you're leaving the Nuggets (who could give you that same contract) to play for the Nets.

[ibraheim718]

^^^^^^last year is last year. What are his stats this year? They ain't better than favors stats this year are they? A step back to me is worse than struggling in your rookie year. Favors wasn't even the focal point at gorgia tech for the year he went there. Favors is a good 3 more years away before you can call him a bust.

[Clyde_Style]

BTW, why does the thread say "65% Done"? What the hell is that supposed to mean?

[ComboGuardCity]

And the kid doesn't have the charisma of even an Amar'e so the endorsements are going to be the same (to me) wherever he goes. I just know one thing if he signs the extension for either Denver or NJ I ain't going to be mad at him. 65MILLLION GUARANTEED!!!! Guaranteed..... is a lot of coin. If he doesn't all it takes is one torn patella or a serious back injury for him to never have the chance to sign a contract like this ever again. I'm not saying he will or he won't but I'm definitely not going to hate on the guy if he does. He's gotta do what he's gotta do.

He's a NY (Syracuse) kid. Marbury had the personality of sod and ate Vaseline but made COIN in NY. Nevermind Melo being the easiest scorer in the league, you think his personality is a problem? Ugh. And $65 million guaranteed is worthless if you're leaving the Nuggets (who could give you that same contract) to play for the Nets.

So you're saying you would rather move to Denver than play, not live, in New Jeresey (soon to be Brooklyn) and be close to your family?

[ibraheim718]

And the kid doesn't have the charisma of even an Amar'e so the endorsements are going to be the same (to me) wherever he goes. I just know one thing if he signs the extension for either Denver or NJ I ain't going to be mad at him. 65MILLLION GUARANTEED!!!! Guaranteed..... is a lot of coin. If he doesn't all it takes is one torn patella or a serious back injury for him to never have the chance to sign a contract like this ever again. I'm not saying he will or he won't but I'm definitely not going to hate on the guy if he does. He's gotta do what he's gotta do.

He's a NY (Syracuse) kid. Marbury had the personality of sod and ate Vaseline but made COIN in NY. Nevermind Melo being the easiest scorer in the league, you think his personality is a problem? Ugh. And $65 million guaranteed is worthless if you're leaving the Nuggets (who could give you that same contract) to play for the Nets.

He's a DC/maryland kid a lot more. All his childhood friends are from that area. And you must be crazy because 65 large ain"t worthless from where I sit.

[ibraheim718]

BTW, why does the thread say "65% Done"? What the hell is that supposed to mean?

I don't know... But hopefully Landry Fields makes up the other 35%.

[BBALLER4FR]

Exactamundo. People here speak with such authority making big assumptions as if they have knowledge or insight into what is going on, what people involved really think, feel or value and what Melo is willing to settle for. It is getting pathetic reading all the back seat drivers who think they know what another person wants.

We don't know who Melo really is as a human being and we won't know much more until we see what his role is in this drama boils down to. In the end, the Nuggets can only pull off a deal with Melo's final input. No team is going to take on Melo blind without some assurances about his intentions. And it was destined to go down to the wire anyway. That's the nature of the beast.

I said a little while back that until Melo proves otherwise, the only safe assumption is he is driven by money first and everything else is secondary. That's what drives most people in this situation. Since talk is cheap, and anyone can say they want to play in NY, we won't know if that was a legit stand he is taking or just hopeful mumblings that he won't go to the wall to defend.

But we don't know until we know. Claiming to know what Melo will accept is a fool's game and there are a lot of fools out there, primarily in the media (with a few here).

Really? If you were a top 10 player who played his college ball at Ohio State, would you play for the Cavs right now for $65mil? I'm not talking about Clyde_Style the RealGM poster, I'm talking Clyde_Style, top 10 SF, currently most coveted FA who's always made the playoffs currently opting out of the same $$, and happens to be playing for an already playoff positioned team?

[Clyde_Style]

Exactamundo. People here speak with such authority making big assumptions as if they have knowledge or insight into what is going on, what people involved really think, feel or value and what Melo is willing to settle for. It is getting pathetic reading all the back seat drivers who think they know what another person wants.

We don't know who Melo really is as a human being and we won't know much more until we see what his role is in this drama boils down to. In the end, the Nuggets can only pull off a deal with Melo's final input. No team is going to take on Melo blind without some assurances about his intentions. And it was destined to go down to the wire anyway. That's the nature of the beast.

I said a little while back that until Melo proves otherwise, the only safe assumption is he is driven by money first and everything else is secondary. That's what drives most people in this situation. Since talk is cheap, and anyone can say they want to play in NY, we won't know if that was a legit stand he is taking or just hopeful mumblings that he won't go to the wall to defend.

But we don't know until we know. Claiming to know what Melo will accept is a fool's game and there are a lot of fools out there, primarily in the media (with a few here).

Really? If you were a top 10 player who played his college ball at Ohio State, would you play for the Cavs right now for $65mil? I'm not talking about Clyde_Style the RealGM poster, I'm talking Clyde_Style, top 10 SF, currently most coveted FA who's always made the playoffs currently opting out of the same $$, and happens to be playing for an already playoff positioned team?

Are you claiming that you know exactly what motivates ANYBODY who would be in Melo's position and that you, I and him would all handle the same situation exactly the same?

That's EXACTLY what I was saying is something you do not have the ability to say with any such certainty.

Help me out here, because what is your point really?

[NoLayupRule]

BTW, why does the thread say "65% Done"? What the hell is that supposed to mean?

I don't know... But hopefully Landry Fields makes up the other 35%.

because the reports, listed on page 28, listed the deal as about 65% done

its an opinion from a writer

[Clyde_Style]

BTW, why does the thread say "65% Done"? What the hell is that supposed to mean?

I don't know... But hopefully Landry Fields makes up the other 35%.

because the reports, listed on page 28, listed the deal as about 65% done

its an opinion from a writer

Thanks for the report (now I can crumble that info up and take aim for the waste basket ..... Clyde Style for the win! Scoooooore!)

[NYman15]

This is very tough its so much stress and its gonna ruin all star weekend with all this melo talk I just hope we can get it done it would absolutely positively suck if he goes to nets and we've gone through this now twice for a total of almost 3 years! Lets see what Donnie can do and work his magic.

[Clyde_Style]

Since it is always a possibility Denver sabotages themselves to the point of no deal occurring by the deadline, I would advise all of the wrist cutters here to hide your razor blades and shaving implements for the next week or so.

Besides, if that happened, then you'd have months more to obsess. Win-Win!

[putiger78]

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