Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2

[baulderdash77]

I think our draft board should look something like:

1. Perry Jones - would fit perfect as our starting 3 add much needed size
2. Kyrie Irving - has cp3-like potential
3. Terrance Jones - enough size and skill to start on our team
4. Harrison Barnes
5. Jordan Hamilton

We don't need undersized or European bigs right now.

Have you ever watched Perry Jones play? He plays exclusively center in the NCAA. He has OK handles (great for a guy his size, but only ok for an NBA SF). He can't shoot a jump shot at all. He has the same game as Stro Swift at this stage. He's an athlete who doesn't have a position.

Don't believe the hype.

[ATLTimekeeper]

C.J. Leslie of NC State is impressing me right now.

14 pts, 6-10 FG, 2-2 3pt FG, 3 rebs.

He has the longest arms I've ever seen from a SF.

I thought he might be a sleeper at the beginning of the year, but he has a serious case of the lazy-bones.

He needs another year of school to work on his poetry.

http://deadspin.com/#!5763288/nc-states-cj-leslies-valentines-day-poem-about-hooking-up-is-awfully-romantic

[5DOM]

I think our draft board should look something like:

1. Perry Jones - would fit perfect as our starting 3 add much needed size
2. Kyrie Irving - has cp3-like potential
3. Terrance Jones - enough size and skill to start on our team
4. Harrison Barnes
5. Jordan Hamilton

We don't need undersized or European bigs right now.

Have you ever watched Perry Jones play? He plays exclusively center in the NCAA. He has OK handles (great for a guy his size, but only ok for an NBA SF). He can't shoot a jump shot at all. He has the same game as Stro Swift at this stage. He's an athlete who doesn't have a position.

Don't believe the hype.

Other than the size, athleticism and laid back attitude, I don't see much similarity. Perry Jones is a much better ball handler than Swift ever was. Sure Swift could occasionally put the ball on the floor, but it was mostly thanks to his insane athleticism than his skills. Perry Jones however is a more perimeter oriented player. More than half of Swift's shots were at the rim, but I expect the opposite for Jones. Swift was just a good, athletic finisher who couldnt do much of anything else IMO.

[baulderdash77]

Other than the size, athleticism and laid back attitude, I don't see much similarity. Perry Jones is a much better ball handler than Swift ever was. Sure Swift could occasionally put the ball on the floor, but it was mostly thanks to his insane athleticism than his skills. Perry Jones however is a more perimeter oriented player. More than half of Swift's shots were at the rim, but I expect the opposite for Jones. Swift was just a good, athletic finisher who couldnt do much of anything else IMO.

Litterally 80% of his points are on putbacks, dunks and alley-opps. He's only shooting 33% from jump shots and those are only 20%th of his attempts. He really does have the same game as Stro Swift- super athletic but not a good rebounder, shot blocker or shooter. He has a looong way to go before he's an NBA player.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Derrick Williams is awesome.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Klay Thompson for the MIA pick.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Seriously, Thompson is going to be a great role player in the NBA. Just curled off of a screen, rose up, and nailed a three. His defence isn't too great, but as a guy off of the bench, he'll get the job done. Very good scorer.

[TheRealDeal]

I don't know why people argue about who we are selecting. It's a little early for that.

a. we don't know what pick we'll have

b. we don't know who will be in the draft

this is the time of the year to evaluate everyone and not throw out prospects because you like one particular guy. I'm sure BC had a man crush on Bargs long before the draft which could have skewed how he viewed the other prospects.

We don't know enough about these guys yet and wont until just before the draft when the workouts are done. Keep evaluating your favorite/least favorite players so we can be up to date. Don't make opinions about a guy based off of stats or what you read in forums because it's easy to spot and some people are tired of repeating themselves.

Another thing we can't predict is how trades could impact our roster by June. BC might just draft the BPA because he plans to blow up the roster next summer. Can we please just stop getting ahead of ourselves and objectively scout players on here?

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

I don't know why people argue about who we are selecting. It's a little early for that.

a. we don't know what pick we'll have

b. we don't know who will be in the draft

this is the time of the year to evaluate everyone and not throw out prospects because you like one particular guy. I'm sure BC had a man crush on Bargs long before the draft which could have skewed how he viewed the other prospects.

We don't know enough about these guys yet and wont until just before the draft when the workouts are done. Keep evaluating your favorite/least favorite players so we can be up to date. Don't make opinions about a guy based off of stats or what you read in forums because it's easy to spot and some people are tired of repeating themselves.

Another thing we can't predict is how trades could impact our roster by June. BC might just draft the BPA because he plans to blow up the roster next summer. Can we please just stop getting ahead of ourselves and objectively scout players on here?

What are your thoughts on Klay Thompson? Averaging 20 pts/game on good percentages. It's my first look at him, watching WSU vs Arizona right now.

He looks like a guy who would be great on a team like San Antonio.

4/5 3pt FGs in this game.

This is my second time watching Derrick Williams...imo, he's an explosive PF.

[5DOM]

Other than the size, athleticism and laid back attitude, I don't see much similarity. Perry Jones is a much better ball handler than Swift ever was. Sure Swift could occasionally put the ball on the floor, but it was mostly thanks to his insane athleticism than his skills. Perry Jones however is a more perimeter oriented player. More than half of Swift's shots were at the rim, but I expect the opposite for Jones. Swift was just a good, athletic finisher who couldnt do much of anything else IMO.

Litterally 80% of his points are on putbacks, dunks and alley-opps. He's only shooting 33% from jump shots and those are only 20%th of his attempts. He really does have the same game as Stro Swift- super athletic but not a good rebounder, shot blocker or shooter. He has a looong way to go before he's an NBA player.

The thing that separates them IMO is that Perry seems to be much more skilled than Stro. Swift's been a one-dimensional player his whole career, but Jones has shown the potential to be more than that. Sure his shots may not be falling now but he's got good fundamentals, and one should think it's only going to improve. Harrison Barnes has been inconsistent with his jump shots himself but people still say he's got a good jumper for the same reason. And of course, like you said, he's playing out of position and that makes it harder for us to really see his strengths.

[TheRealDeal]

I don't know why people argue about who we are selecting. It's a little early for that.

a. we don't know what pick we'll have

b. we don't know who will be in the draft

this is the time of the year to evaluate everyone and not throw out prospects because you like one particular guy. I'm sure BC had a man crush on Bargs long before the draft which could have skewed how he viewed the other prospects.

We don't know enough about these guys yet and wont until just before the draft when the workouts are done. Keep evaluating your favorite/least favorite players so we can be up to date. Don't make opinions about a guy based off of stats or what you read in forums because it's easy to spot and some people are tired of repeating themselves.

Another thing we can't predict is how trades could impact our roster by June. BC might just draft the BPA because he plans to blow up the roster next summer. Can we please just stop getting ahead of ourselves and objectively scout players on here?

What are your thoughts on Klay Thompson? Averaging 20 pts/game on good percentages. It's my first look at him, watching WSU vs Arizona right now.

He looks like a guy who would be great on a team like San Antonio.

4/5 3pt FGs in this game.

This is my second time watching Derrick Williams...imo, he's an explosive PF.

It's funny you ask because I was just about to comment on him. I'm obviously in love with his J and overall offensive game. He has a GREAT pedigree being the son of Lakers/Blazers great Mychal Thompson.

I have family who are alums of Wazzu so I watch them more than the usual fan.

[TheRealDeal]

The Cougs are on a furious comeback lets see how D-Will responds.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

I don't know why people argue about who we are selecting. It's a little early for that.

a. we don't know what pick we'll have

b. we don't know who will be in the draft

this is the time of the year to evaluate everyone and not throw out prospects because you like one particular guy. I'm sure BC had a man crush on Bargs long before the draft which could have skewed how he viewed the other prospects.

We don't know enough about these guys yet and wont until just before the draft when the workouts are done. Keep evaluating your favorite/least favorite players so we can be up to date. Don't make opinions about a guy based off of stats or what you read in forums because it's easy to spot and some people are tired of repeating themselves.

Another thing we can't predict is how trades could impact our roster by June. BC might just draft the BPA because he plans to blow up the roster next summer. Can we please just stop getting ahead of ourselves and objectively scout players on here?

What are your thoughts on Klay Thompson? Averaging 20 pts/game on good percentages. It's my first look at him, watching WSU vs Arizona right now.

He looks like a guy who would be great on a team like San Antonio.

4/5 3pt FGs in this game.

This is my second time watching Derrick Williams...imo, he's an explosive PF.

It's funny you ask because I was just about to comment on him. I'm obviously in love with his J and overall offensive game. He has a GREAT pedigree being the son of Lakers/Blazers great Mychal Thompson.

I have family who are alums of Wazzu so I watch them more than the usual fan.

Yeah, I'm a fan of Thompson now. Just seems like a smart player, pretty vocal on the court too.

[sunny]

BEARDOWN

GO CATS!

[sunny]

D will has what 26 points on 10 shots?

[sunny]

if AZ wins vs washington, then we'll be ranked top 10.
D will with a great game tonight.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Derrick Williams is a top 5 pick easily in this draft. It'd be hard for him to turn that down.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

UCLA vs. Stanford coming up.

First look at Tyler Honeycutt

[sunny]

he just said he's only at 75% right now (wow - what a night) and should be 100% by next week.

In his weekly press conference, SEan Miller said that he wont tape his hand up next week.

[prototype]

I think a better comparison to Perry Jones is Tyrus Thomas or Anthony Randolph without the shotblocking. They're all athletic PF's people think can play the 3 because they don't have the skills for a 4 but really they can't play the 3 either. They're also not strong enough to be a C. Seriously Perry Jones has the highest bust potential. Anthony Randolph and Tyrus Thomas put better stats in college and they haven't amounted to much.