[Camelo Thread Part 19] - Nyets won't be used pg 52

taj2133 · Post #1081 » by **taj2133** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:27 am

He won't go to nets it is just bunch of garbage he not going to team that is not going to the playoffs he has so much pride not to go to a team this not going to playoffs.

Post #1082 » by **GONYK** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:27 am

ibraheim718 wrote:WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
For 'Melo to get trade to NY and $65M now, he needs to leverage Knicks to meet Denver's demands. From somewhere, he wants that extension.
47 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

^^^^^^^^^this is exactly what WWW,CAA and rose are doing for Melo right now.

The same thing is accomplished by Melo saying he is going to be a FA no matter what

taj2133 · Post #1083 » by **taj2133** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:29 am

It not going to be about money for carmelo is number 1 thing is winning where can he win and it is not new jersey.

Jay10 · Post #1084 » by **Jay10** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:30 am

donnie doesn't have to do anything but sit back in his recliner and wait for the nuggets to call. the thought of carmelo leaving without a s&t purely out of spite, is a threat the nuggets want no part of.

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #1085 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:31 am

Winning does matter to this new breed of player. Melo is bffs with Kobe, LBJ, and Wade--do you think he's going to ruin his chances at winning just to make sure he gets the extension? Why not just stay in Denver then? Nobody would criticize him for it. I would bet any and all amount of money I had--if I gambled--that Melo will not end up a Net.

ibraheim718 · Post #1086 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:32 am

GONYK wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
For 'Melo to get trade to NY and $65M now, he needs to leverage Knicks to meet Denver's demands. From somewhere, he wants that extension.
47 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

^^^^^^^^^this is exactly what WWW,CAA and rose are doing for Melo right now.

The same thing is accomplished by Melo saying he is going to be a FA no matter what

I don't know... because if he says that than he loses Denver's willingness to play along. But I've said this before what he says in public can be the opposite of what he says to Denver in private. Besides keep in mind he wants that 65 just as much as he wants to be in NY. The natural thing for him is to want both equally.

If he says I am going to be a free agent no matter what he loses that 65. Think about it. NY closes it's office.

taj2133 · Post #1087 » by **taj2133** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:33 am

If it was about money he would sign the extension and there would be no problem for him. I think he already has over 120million dollars so money means nothing.

Post #1088 » by **GONYK** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:34 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
I don't know... because if he says that than he loses Denver's willingness to play along. But I've said this before what he says in public can be the opposite of what he says to Denver in private. Besides keep in mind he wants that 65 just as much as he wants to be in NY. The natural thing for him is to want both equally.

If he says I am going to be a free agent no matter what he loses that 65. Think about it. NY closes it's office.

NY doesn't close it's office. It just forces Denver's hand, because they have to trade him.

Post #1089 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:35 am

GONYK wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
For 'Melo to get trade to NY and $65M now, he needs to leverage Knicks to meet Denver's demands. From somewhere, he wants that extension.
47 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

^^^^^^^^^this is exactly what WWW,CAA and rose are doing for Melo right now.

The same thing is accomplished by Melo saying he is going to be a FA no matter what

Bullseye.

ibraheim718 · Post #1090 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:35 am

GONYK... let's agree the smart thing and the best thing for Melo is to get his extension in NY via trade so if he and his camp know what Denver actually wants from NY and what NY actually wants to give up the only thing they have to do is get the two teams to meet in the middle. I gotta admit it's shifty what CAA does but it might just work.

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #1091 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:35 am

taj2133 wrote:If it was about money he would sign the extension and there would be no problem for him. I think he already has over 120million dollars so money means nothing.

He certainly cares about the money but I just could never believe he'd sacrifice winning for that guaranteed additional dollars.

ibraheim718 · Post #1092 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:37 am

GONYK wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
I don't know... because if he says that than he loses Denver's willingness to play along. But I've said this before what he says in public can be the opposite of what he says to Denver in private. Besides keep in mind he wants that 65 just as much as he wants to be in NY. The natural thing for him is to want both equally.

If he says I am going to be a free agent no matter what he loses that 65. Think about it. NY closes it's office.

NY doesn't close it's office. It just forces Denver's hand, because they have to trade him.

so then logically why doesn't he say he is going to be a FA? Or is that the last bullet in the chamber? what is the thinking behind him not saying it?

BLACKFEET 2010 · Post #1093 » by **BLACKFEET 2010** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:38 am

ibraheim718 wrote:WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
For 'Melo to get trade to NY and $65M now, he needs to leverage Knicks to meet Denver's demands. From somewhere, he wants that extension.
47 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

^^^^^^^^^this is exactly what WWW,CAA and rose are doing for Melo right now.

That's my point. They let Melo know what's at stake, sheesh, we all know.
But he let them know what he wants. At some point they have to say "ok, ok!!" and let the Nuggets know there will be no deal w/NJ. If there is a lockout and serious amendments to the CBA then him signing an extension now is moot. Will they refuse a sign-and-trade this summer out of spite as well?
They'd all be best served to meet HIS demands. Stars get what stars want.

Post #1094 » by **GONYK** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:40 am

ibraheim718 wrote:GONYK... let's agree the smart thing and the best thing for Melo is to get his extension in NY via trade so if he and his camp know what Denver actually wants from NY and what NY actually wants to give up the only thing they have to do is get the two teams to meet in the middle. I gotta admit it's shifty what CAA does but it might just work.

It will work, but it has exacerbated the situation far more than it needed to be, and it will end up costing his future team more than it would have if they just played it straight.

He would have gotten his money one way or another IMO. Denver was never going to risk it. But now, he is getting it at the expense of a valuable teammate. That's all.

ibraheim718 · Post #1095 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:41 am

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
For 'Melo to get trade to NY and $65M now, he needs to leverage Knicks to meet Denver's demands. From somewhere, he wants that extension.
47 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

^^^^^^^^^this is exactly what WWW,CAA and rose are doing for Melo right now.

That's my point. They let Melo know what's at stake, sheesh, we all know.
But he let them know what he wants. At some point they have to say "ok, ok!!" and let the Nuggets know there will be no deal w/NJ. If there is a lockout and serious amendments to the CBA then him signing an extension now is moot. Will they refuse a sign-and-trade this summer out of spite as well?
They'd all be best served to meet HIS demands. Stars get what stars want.

I guess we might just see how strong of an emotion spite is. If the old Kroenke has the final say then I can see them just letting him walk.

Post #1096 » by **GONYK** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:41 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
I don't know... because if he says that than he loses Denver's willingness to play along. But I've said this before what he says in public can be the opposite of what he says to Denver in private. Besides keep in mind he wants that 65 just as much as he wants to be in NY. The natural thing for him is to want both equally.

If he says I am going to be a free agent no matter what he loses that 65. Think about it. NY closes it's office.

NY doesn't close it's office. It just forces Denver's hand, because they have to trade him.

so then logically why doesn't he say he is going to be a FA? Or is that the last bullet in the chamber? what is the thinking behind him not saying it?

Because he really wants him money and is afraid to bluff is my guess.

taj2133 · Post #1097 » by **taj2133** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:42 am

He would look pretty stupid if he want to new jersey and i wouldn't feel sorry him because that was his chose to go to a losing team and i don't think his peers will feel sorry him if he did that.

ibraheim718 · Post #1098 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:43 am

GONYK wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:GONYK... let's agree the smart thing and the best thing for Melo is to get his extension in NY via trade so if he and his camp know what Denver actually wants from NY and what NY actually wants to give up the only thing they have to do is get the two teams to meet in the middle. I gotta admit it's shifty what CAA does but it might just work.

It will work, but it has exacerbated the situation far more than it needed to be, and it will end up costing his future team more than it would have if they just played it straight.

He would have gotten his money one way or another IMO. Denver was never going to risk it. But now, he is getting it at the expense of a valuable teammate. That's all.

Right...Right. Fascinating soap opera. And the conclusion is right around the corner.

seren · Post #1099 » by **seren** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:43 am

taj2133 wrote:He would look pretty stupid if he want to new jersey and i wouldn't feel sorry him because that was his chose to go to a losing team and i don't think his peers will feel sorry him if he did that.

Pretty much. They won't have anyone else and they are capped out for a while with those stupid signings.

Post #1100 » by **GONYK** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:44 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:GONYK... let's agree the smart thing and the best thing for Melo is to get his extension in NY via trade so if he and his camp know what Denver actually wants from NY and what NY actually wants to give up the only thing they have to do is get the two teams to meet in the middle. I gotta admit it's shifty what CAA does but it might just work.

It will work, but it has exacerbated the situation far more than it needed to be, and it will end up costing his future team more than it would have if they just played it straight.

He would have gotten his money one way or another IMO. Denver was never going to risk it. But now, he is getting it at the expense of a valuable teammate. That's all.

Right...Right. Fascinating soap opera. And the conclusion is right around the corner.

Fortunately it is. We will give up more than we want, but less than they want. In the end, it will be something we can all live with.