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Nene's numbers:
15 pts, 7.1 reb, 2 ast, .9 blk, 1 stl
63% FG, 76.4% FT
Very good defensive player ^ .
15 pts, 7.1 reb, 2 ast, .9 blk, 1 stl
63% FG, 76.4% FT
Very good defensive player ^ .
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LBPTarHeel27 wrote:I am surprised with all of the Melo talk that no one has suggested Nene as our solution at C. If Melo goes, you can bet that Nene would be on his way out as well. The Nuggets would go in to complete rebuilding mode. The best part is, the pieces they would be looking to unload would all fit pretty well here, IMO.
As of tomorrow, we will be able to trade the players we acquired from Phx.
I am partial to this idea...
Orlando Trades
Jason Richardson 14.44 Mill (expiring contract)
Ryan Anderson 1.40 Mill (Rookie Contract - very good young talent)
Earl Clark 1.89 Mill (Rookie contract - solid young talent)
Denver Trades
Nene Hilario 11.36 Mill (2 years left on deal - unlikely to extend)
Al Harrington 5.76 Mill (5 years left on deal - Nuggets looking to shed the contract)
Your usually one cool cat, but what the hell is wrong with you and this trade? You want us to trade away our 3 best trading chips to pay Nene 11 million a year to back up dwight and take on another bad contract in All Harrington? Is Otis planning on taking every untradeable contract in the NBA?
JRICH should be used for one of three available players. GWALLACE, Carmelo or Andre Igoudala. If we can't get any of them with JRICH we hold on to him and let him expire. We shouldn't bet the bank for a backup because quite frankly we don't really need one. Wait till Troy Murphy expires or make a run for a guy like Tony Battie. We magic fans should settle down. If we trade Jrich and we don't get Carmelo, Iggy or Gwallace back then we got taken to the cleaners.
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LBPTarHeel27 wrote:I am surprised with all of the Melo talk that no one has suggested Nene as our solution at C. If Melo goes, you can bet that Nene would be on his way out as well. The Nuggets would go in to complete rebuilding mode. The best part is, the pieces they would be looking to unload would all fit pretty well here, IMO.
As of tomorrow, we will be able to trade the players we acquired from Phx.
I am partial to this idea...
Orlando Trades
Jason Richardson 14.44 Mill (expiring contract)
Ryan Anderson 1.40 Mill (Rookie Contract - very good young talent)
Earl Clark 1.89 Mill (Rookie contract - solid young talent)
Denver Trades
Nene Hilario 11.36 Mill (2 years left on deal - unlikely to extend)
Al Harrington 5.76 Mill (5 years left on deal - Nuggets looking to shed the contract)
No offense, but this trade is one of the worst I've ever seen
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darthmerrick wrote:LBPTarHeel27 wrote:I am surprised with all of the Melo talk that no one has suggested Nene as our solution at C. If Melo goes, you can bet that Nene would be on his way out as well. The Nuggets would go in to complete rebuilding mode. The best part is, the pieces they would be looking to unload would all fit pretty well here, IMO.
As of tomorrow, we will be able to trade the players we acquired from Phx.
I am partial to this idea...
Orlando Trades
Jason Richardson 14.44 Mill (expiring contract)
Ryan Anderson 1.40 Mill (Rookie Contract - very good young talent)
Earl Clark 1.89 Mill (Rookie contract - solid young talent)
Denver Trades
Nene Hilario 11.36 Mill (2 years left on deal - unlikely to extend)
Al Harrington 5.76 Mill (5 years left on deal - Nuggets looking to shed the contract)
Your usually one cool cat, but what the hell is wrong with you and this trade? You want us to trade away our 3 best trading chips to pay Nene 11 million a year to back up dwight and take on another bad contract in All Harrington? Is Otis planning on taking every untradeable contract in the NBA?
JRICH should be used for one of three available players. GWALLACE, Carmelo or Andre Igoudala. If we can't get any of them with JRICH we hold on to him and let him expire. We shouldn't bet the bank for a backup because quite frankly we don't really need one. Wait till Troy Murphy expires or make a run for a guy like Tony Battie. We magic fans should settle down. If we trade Jrich and we don't get Carmelo, Iggy or Gwallace back then we got taken to the cleaners.
Hilltop wrote:LBPTarHeel27 wrote:I am surprised with all of the Melo talk that no one has suggested Nene as our solution at C. If Melo goes, you can bet that Nene would be on his way out as well. The Nuggets would go in to complete rebuilding mode. The best part is, the pieces they would be looking to unload would all fit pretty well here, IMO.
As of tomorrow, we will be able to trade the players we acquired from Phx.
I am partial to this idea...
Orlando Trades
Jason Richardson 14.44 Mill (expiring contract)
Ryan Anderson 1.40 Mill (Rookie Contract - very good young talent)
Earl Clark 1.89 Mill (Rookie contract - solid young talent)
Denver Trades
Nene Hilario 11.36 Mill (2 years left on deal - unlikely to extend)
Al Harrington 5.76 Mill (5 years left on deal - Nuggets looking to shed the contract)
No offense, but this trade is one of the worst I've ever seen
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Say what you want but it is pretty clear what our needs are. We replace Ryan Anderson with a guy capable of doing the same things, trade J-Rich (who we will lose if we don't trade) and Earl Clark (he looks decent, but he is not going to be anything special) for a guy that will help us beat Boston and match up better against the Heat.
You have to give to get...the reason why it is looked upon as a ridiculous idea is because it isn't heavily in our favor.
You have to give to get...the reason why it is looked upon as a ridiculous idea is because it isn't heavily in our favor.

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harrington has like 30mil left on his contract, anderson can provide the same amount of production at a fraction of a price and is much younger and effective..
we dont need no high profile center to play 10minutes a night, we can possibly get the right guy after buyouts and such, or make a small trade...the money side of it also makes zero sense
we dont need no high profile center to play 10minutes a night, we can possibly get the right guy after buyouts and such, or make a small trade...the money side of it also makes zero sense
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LBPTarHeel27 wrote:Say what you want but it is pretty clear what our needs are. We replace Ryan Anderson with a guy capable of doing the same things, trade J-Rich (who we will lose if we don't trade) and Earl Clark (he looks decent, but he is not going to be anything special) for a guy that will help us beat Boston and match up better against the Heat.
You have to give to get...the reason why it is looked upon as a ridiculous idea is because it isn't heavily in our favor.
I would switch Bass in for Anderson for me personally....I just can't trade away someone with that kinda potential only because when i thought about it i can't think of ANY Power-forward at his age right now in the NBA that is better than him....Anderson might be someone we would regret trading
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Denver-NJ in advanced talks on Anthony, Billups, Balkman, Ely, Williams for Favors, Harris, Murphy, Uzoh and 4 1st rounders, source tells Y!
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA
Big deal. Troy Murphy is in the deal as well.
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LBPTarHeel27 wrote:Say what you want but it is pretty clear what our needs are. We replace Ryan Anderson with a guy capable of doing the same things, trade J-Rich (who we will lose if we don't trade) and Earl Clark (he looks decent, but he is not going to be anything special) for a guy that will help us beat Boston and match up better against the Heat.
You have to give to get...the reason why it is looked upon as a ridiculous idea is because it isn't heavily in our favor.
It's not just ridiculous but its the kind of trade that makes you want to disown your team and wear a bag on your head or worse become a Miami Heat fan. Nene is injured alot and he's way overpaid to be a backup. Miami and Chicago are not in our league. San Antonio or Dallas we can beat in a seven game series. The only two teams that really scare me in the playoffs are Boston and L.A. And we have the edge because we have the most dominant big man. If Dwight stays in the game and we get something from just one other guy. We win! I like those chances.
Making your trade takes away too many of our bench weapons and hurts us financially. Dwight would look at Duhon, Arenas, Q.Rich, Harrington and bolt. You take on one bad contract not four of them. If I'm Otis I only move JRICH for the three players I mentioned up top. I only go after a backup for Dwight if it comes at a small price.
A little OT here~Portland looks desperate for a PG. Maybe we convince them to take DuDu off our hands.
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darthmerrick wrote:LBPTarHeel27 wrote:I am surprised with all of the Melo talk that no one has suggested Nene as our solution at C. If Melo goes, you can bet that Nene would be on his way out as well. The Nuggets would go in to complete rebuilding mode. The best part is, the pieces they would be looking to unload would all fit pretty well here, IMO.
As of tomorrow, we will be able to trade the players we acquired from Phx.
I am partial to this idea...
Orlando Trades
Jason Richardson 14.44 Mill (expiring contract)
Ryan Anderson 1.40 Mill (Rookie Contract - very good young talent)
Earl Clark 1.89 Mill (Rookie contract - solid young talent)
Denver Trades
Nene Hilario 11.36 Mill (2 years left on deal - unlikely to extend)
Al Harrington 5.76 Mill (5 years left on deal - Nuggets looking to shed the contract)
Your usually one cool cat, but what the hell is wrong with you and this trade? You want us to trade away our 3 best trading chips to pay Nene 11 million a year to back up dwight and take on another bad contract in All Harrington? Is Otis planning on taking every untradeable contract in the NBA?
JRICH should be used for one of three available players. GWALLACE, Carmelo or Andre Igoudala. If we can't get any of them with JRICH we hold on to him and let him expire. We shouldn't bet the bank for a backup because quite frankly we don't really need one. Wait till Troy Murphy expires or make a run for a guy like Tony Battie. We magic fans should settle down. If we trade Jrich and we don't get Carmelo, Iggy or Gwallace back then we got taken to the cleaners.
"We shouldn't be the bank for a backup because quite frankly we don't need one".
Wow.
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LBPTarHeel27 wrote:Say what you want but it is pretty clear what our needs are. We replace Ryan Anderson with a guy capable of doing the same things, trade J-Rich (who we will lose if we don't trade) and Earl Clark (he looks decent, but he is not going to be anything special) for a guy that will help us beat Boston and match up better against the Heat.
You have to give to get...the reason why it is looked upon as a ridiculous idea is because it isn't heavily in our favor.
Unless Otis Smith is bringing in a star player, then there is no reason for us to be taking risks like these. Toss out all our young talent and our most valuable trade asset and 3rd best player for what? Al Harrington and Nene? I cringe at the thought.
If we're not getting Paul, Anthony, or Nash (and we probably won't), then I'd rather see Otis Smith stick with this group and just pray for a miracle. Yes, I would rather do that than mortgage this team's future to an overpaid blackhole and a PF we don't necessarily need. If you later realize that Nene and Harrington weren't going to get you anywhere, then you're screwed. You basically added a couple more toxic contracts to what is probably the worst payroll in the entire NBA as it is.
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Bensational wrote:Portland seem keen for a PG, considering they've been mentioned in regards to Sessions and Harris. i wonder if Duhon will do?
Duhon for Pryzbilla.
we should stop dreaming somebody is stupid enough to take him off our hands...
sure if Duh was expiring they maybe do it...if they were desperate for pg and no other options surfaced...
but seriously Harris,Sessions... and you come up with Duhon ? :p
its should be bannable to mention his name around good PGs
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SI reports Billups will go to Miami if they trade Melo & him to NJ and they buy him out .. They also report Rip Hamilton will go to Boston if bought out ..
Not big news, but worth mentioning ..
Not big news, but worth mentioning ..
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darthmerrick wrote:LBPTarHeel27 wrote:Al Harrington 5.76 Mill (5 years left on deal - Nuggets looking to shed the contract)
Your usually one cool cat, but what the hell is wrong with you and this trade? You want us to trade away our 3 best trading chips to pay Nene 11 million a year to back up dwight and take on another bad contract in All Harrington? Is Otis planning on taking every untradeable contract in the NBA?
actually, the way Otis doles out money, Harrington's contract, especially for what he produces, isnt bad at all.
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darthmerrick wrote:LBPTarHeel27 wrote:Say what you want but it is pretty clear what our needs are. We replace Ryan Anderson with a guy capable of doing the same things, trade J-Rich (who we will lose if we don't trade) and Earl Clark (he looks decent, but he is not going to be anything special) for a guy that will help us beat Boston and match up better against the Heat.
You have to give to get...the reason why it is looked upon as a ridiculous idea is because it isn't heavily in our favor.
It's not just ridiculous but its the kind of trade that makes you want to disown your team and wear a bag on your head or worse become a Miami Heat fan. Nene is injured alot and he's way overpaid to be a backup. Miami and Chicago are not in our league. San Antonio or Dallas we can beat in a seven game series. The only two teams that really scare me in the playoffs are Boston and L.A. And we have the edge because we have the most dominant big man. If Dwight stays in the game and we get something from just one other guy. We win! I like those chances.
Making your trade takes away too many of our bench weapons and hurts us financially. Dwight would look at Duhon, Arenas, Q.Rich, Harrington and bolt. You take on one bad contract not four of them. If I'm Otis I only move JRICH for the three players I mentioned up top. I only go after a backup for Dwight if it comes at a small price.
A little OT here~Portland looks desperate for a PG. Maybe we convince them to take DuDu off our hands.
Nene isnt injured a lot. He had a bought with cancer, that is really it. he has missed 1 game in 3 years.
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Hilltop wrote:LBPTarHeel27 wrote:Say what you want but it is pretty clear what our needs are. We replace Ryan Anderson with a guy capable of doing the same things, trade J-Rich (who we will lose if we don't trade) and Earl Clark (he looks decent, but he is not going to be anything special) for a guy that will help us beat Boston and match up better against the Heat.
You have to give to get...the reason why it is looked upon as a ridiculous idea is because it isn't heavily in our favor.
Unless Otis Smith is bringing in a star player, then there is no reason for us to be taking risks like these. Toss out all our young talent and our most valuable trade asset and 3rd best player for what? Al Harrington and Nene? I cringe at the thought.
If we're not getting Paul, Anthony, or Nash (and we probably won't), then I'd rather see Otis Smith stick with this group and just pray for a miracle. Yes, I would rather do that than mortgage this team's future to an overpaid blackhole and a PF we don't necessarily need. If you later realize that Nene and Harrington weren't going to get you anywhere, then you're screwed. You basically added a couple more toxic contracts to what is probably the worst payroll in the entire NBA as it is.
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BelgianMagic wrote:SI reports Billups will go to Miami if they trade Melo & him to NJ and they buy him out .. They also report Rip Hamilton will go to Boston if bought out ..
Not big news, but worth mentioning ..
really? i heard about rip, wouldn't think Billups would head to Miami. bring on the competition


J-Rich needs to kick rocks.....Too inconsistent and virtually brings nothing to the table that Redick can't emulate
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It's not just ridiculous but its the kind of trade that makes you want to disown your team and wear a bag on your head or worse become a Miami Heat fan. Nene is injured alot and he's way overpaid to be a backup. Miami and Chicago are not in our league. San Antonio or Dallas we can beat in a seven game series. The only two teams that really scare me in the playoffs are Boston and L.A. And we have the edge because we have the most dominant big man. If Dwight stays in the game and we get something from just one other guy. We win! I like those chances.
Making your trade takes away too many of our bench weapons and hurts us financially. Dwight would look at Duhon, Arenas, Q.Rich, Harrington and bolt. You take on one bad contract not four of them. If I'm Otis I only move JRICH for the three players I mentioned up top. I only go after a backup for Dwight if it comes at a small price.
A little OT here~Portland looks desperate for a PG. Maybe we convince them to take DuDu off our hands.
1. Homertastic.
2. Nene played 77 games in 08-09, 82 games in 09-10, and so far 45 out of 51 this year.
3. You realize he makes 7 mill less than our backup PG with 2 years less left...and actually produces, right?
4. Miami isn't in our league? Homertastic to a whole new level. And the way Chicago is playing, you can't even say they aren't.
5. If we have the edge with Dwight, why is it that we have lost with him to LA & Boston the last two years?
6. The thought that J-Rich can land us Gerald Wallace, Melo, or AI is delusional. Yeah he is an expiring contract, but unless you are giving up all of our young talent along with it...we aren't getting any of them. All of the other teams going for the players likely have something better to offer. Most teams have expiring contracts and most have draft picks (something we DON'T have).
7. If we are going to settle for Troy Murphy or even Tony Battie then we need both, not one of them.
8. KG+Perkins+O'Neal+O'Neal+Davis vs. Dwight alone will result in AT LEAST 2 games in a 7 game series where he is in serious foul trouble. WE NEED A REAL BIG GUY.

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paperboymafia wrote:Hilltop wrote:LBPTarHeel27 wrote:Say what you want but it is pretty clear what our needs are. We replace Ryan Anderson with a guy capable of doing the same things, trade J-Rich (who we will lose if we don't trade) and Earl Clark (he looks decent, but he is not going to be anything special) for a guy that will help us beat Boston and match up better against the Heat.
You have to give to get...the reason why it is looked upon as a ridiculous idea is because it isn't heavily in our favor.
Unless Otis Smith is bringing in a star player, then there is no reason for us to be taking risks like these. Toss out all our young talent and our most valuable trade asset and 3rd best player for what? Al Harrington and Nene? I cringe at the thought.
If we're not getting Paul, Anthony, or Nash (and we probably won't), then I'd rather see Otis Smith stick with this group and just pray for a miracle. Yes, I would rather do that than mortgage this team's future to an overpaid blackhole and a PF we don't necessarily need. If you later realize that Nene and Harrington weren't going to get you anywhere, then you're screwed. You basically added a couple more toxic contracts to what is probably the worst payroll in the entire NBA as it is.
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Clearly no one here watches Nene. How can a black hole only take 8.7 shots per game, shoot 60+% from the field, only average 1.7 turnovers (compared to Dwight's 3.4)
As for "I would rather do that than mortgage this team's future "...
This team has no future guys...there is no future plan. What could it possibly be at this point? We are going to be over the cap until we lose Dwight...bottom line. There will be NO CHANCE of getting under the cap. Dwight Howard & Ryan Anderson is not a core for the future, it is one superstar and a really talented young guy...that isn't a plan for the future.

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I was referring to Harrington.
Nene would be great, but he's a luxury we can't afford to take on. You're not going to get anything out of him playing backup C to Howard. The only sense in this would be to go twin-towers and play him at PF and slide he or Bass over to play spot minutes at C to give Dwight a breather. But is it worth it? Even if he would be a substantial upgrade over Ryan or Brandon, is the luxury at PF worth bringing in Al Harrington?
This is exactly the kind of trade Otis Smith would do though (stands a chance of improving our situation today, but digs the hole deeper for years to come). As if the situation wasn't bad enough. I'd rather let Richardson walk, take the cap relief and go in full-out panic mode next year and try to unload as many long-term contracts as we can than bring in the worst contract of them all and pray that Nene can cover our depth issues (now that we also lose Clark and Anderson) at both PF and C and win us a championship
My opinion has always been that this team doesn't have the pieces to get over the top. Nothing, not Wallace, Iguodala, Nene is going to change that. Only brining in an elite player will, so our chances are slim either way. Why bother shipping out all your young talent and taking on a toxic contract? Hell, Harrington's would likely be the last straw for Howard. At that point he would just realize that this team isn't going anywhere after 2012. Nene would be off the books by then too. Yeah, you would jump ship too.
Nene would be great, but he's a luxury we can't afford to take on. You're not going to get anything out of him playing backup C to Howard. The only sense in this would be to go twin-towers and play him at PF and slide he or Bass over to play spot minutes at C to give Dwight a breather. But is it worth it? Even if he would be a substantial upgrade over Ryan or Brandon, is the luxury at PF worth bringing in Al Harrington?
This is exactly the kind of trade Otis Smith would do though (stands a chance of improving our situation today, but digs the hole deeper for years to come). As if the situation wasn't bad enough. I'd rather let Richardson walk, take the cap relief and go in full-out panic mode next year and try to unload as many long-term contracts as we can than bring in the worst contract of them all and pray that Nene can cover our depth issues (now that we also lose Clark and Anderson) at both PF and C and win us a championship

My opinion has always been that this team doesn't have the pieces to get over the top. Nothing, not Wallace, Iguodala, Nene is going to change that. Only brining in an elite player will, so our chances are slim either way. Why bother shipping out all your young talent and taking on a toxic contract? Hell, Harrington's would likely be the last straw for Howard. At that point he would just realize that this team isn't going anywhere after 2012. Nene would be off the books by then too. Yeah, you would jump ship too.