OT: Nets & Nuggets Reach Agreement On Trade;Now Its Up To CA

[JayD]

4 1st round picks? And giving up Harris and Favors? XD.

Please, please do this. This will destroy the Nets franchise once they find out how overrated Melo really is.

[Evilash53]

Or God forbid OKC.

Green for Nene.

Westbrick
Harden
Durant
Ibaka
Nene

[Jordan45822]

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[dimez]

Or God forbid OKC.

Green for Nene.

Westbrick
Harden
Durant
Ibaka
Nene

Thats an athletic, young core that would be scary for the aging Western Conference teams.

[Red Larrivee]

4 1st round picks? And giving up Harris and Favors? XD.

Please, please do this. This will destroy the Nets franchise once they find out how overrated Melo really is.

Yeah because the Nets were already on the right track with their current core.

Melo is a Top 10-12 player and one of the best scorers in the game. He instantly makes New Jersey credible.

[JayD]

4 1st round picks? And giving up Harris and Favors? XD.

Please, please do this. This will destroy the Nets franchise once they find out how overrated Melo really is.

Yeah because the Nets were already on the right track with their current core.

Melo is a Top 10-12 player and one of the best scorers in the game. He instantly makes New Jersey credible.

If by "credible" you mean 41-41 and a 1st round exit at best.

[Red Larrivee]

If by "credible" you mean 41-41 and a 1st round exit at best.

Is that not better than being 17-40 with no hope of making the playoffs? If Melo makes them 20+ wins better, that's a significant improvement.

I'm not saying Melo makes them a contender, but he gives them credibility. The Nets would have cap space in 2012. All he would have to do is wait out 1 1/2 more seasons with a Billups/Melo/Lopez core, and they would have enough space to bring in Deron Williams, Chris Paul or Dwight Howard. The Nets wouldn't have any long-term deals on the team besides him and Travis Outlaw (eh).

[organix85]

All this means is that NY will probably need to up their offer from the garbage offer they were trying to get away with. What was it basically? A pick, Chandler, and Curry?

[bullsnewdynasty]

If by "credible" you mean 41-41 and a 1st round exit at best.

Is that not better than being 17-40 with no hope of making the playoffs? If Melo makes them 20+ wins better, that's a significant improvement.

I'm not saying Melo makes them a contender, but he gives them credibility. The Nets would have cap space in 2012. All he would have to do is wait out 1 1/2 more seasons with a Billups/Melo/Lopez core, and they would have enough space to bring in Deron Williams, Chris Paul or Dwight Howard. The Nets wouldn't have any long-term deals on the team besides him and Travis Outlaw (eh).

And the mega extension they'll have to give to Lopez.

[Red Larrivee]

Lopez isn't a free agent until 2012, so they can decide what to do with him then, based on how it'll affect their cap by the addition of another star.

Billups/Farmar
Morrow/Vujacic
Anthony/Outlaw
Humphries/Williams
Lopez/Petro

Is a playoff team in the East at the least.

[umfan83]

If the Nets somehow complete this trade, does anyone think they have any shot of making the playoffs?

They are 8.5 games out of a playoff spot right now.

Which is why I wonder why Melo would agree to this. If he stays in Denver, at least he has a decent chance of making the playoffs this year, and he'll be allowed to go wherever he wants in the offseason, so he can goto NY, who is already a borderline playoff team. If he accepts the trade, he doesn't go to his preferred destination, he doesn't make the playoffs this year, but at least he can move to NJ with a few of his buddies.

Overall, I think the Nets are dumb for making this trade. Billups is a player you get if you plan to compete this year or next. Billups/Melo/Lopez is nice but how many productive years does Chauncey have left?

[kyrv]

4 1st round picks? And giving up Harris and Favors? XD.

Please, please do this. This will destroy the Nets franchise once they find out how overrated Melo really is.

Yeah because the Nets were already on the right track with their current core.

Melo is a Top 10-12 player and one of the best scorers in the game. He instantly makes New Jersey credible.

If by "credible" you mean 41-41 and a 1st round exit at best.

As opposed to today?

Why is improving a team bad? Seriously.

[organix85]

(1) Meets with the Nyets, says he'll consider it.

(2) Meets with Dolan, says he'll sign extension with Nyets unless the Knicks step up and do what Denver is demanding.

(3) Knicks go on ahead and do that since they can't afford not to.

I don't think Dolan is that dumb though.

Why not? They tanked a couple seasons for the chance at LeBron...even giving away a pick, Hill, and the right to a pick swap just to dump Jeffries.

[Jordan45822]

If the Nets somehow complete this trade, does anyone think they have any shot of making the playoffs?

They are 8.5 games out of a playoff spot right now.

Which is why I wonder why Melo would agree to this. If he stays in Denver, at least he has a decent chance of making the playoffs this year, and he'll be allowed to go wherever he wants in the offseason, so he can goto NY, who is already a borderline playoff team. If he accepts the trade, he doesn't go to his preferred destination, he doesn't make the playoffs this year, but at least he can move to NJ with a few of his buddies.

Overall, I think the Nets are dumb for making this trade. Billups is a player you get if you plan to compete this year or next. Billups/Melo/Lopez is nice but how many productive years does Chauncey have left?

Nope, not even close

[Red Larrivee]

Nets won't make it this season, but they would next season. Season after they go to Brooklyn and have big cap space.

The Nets aren't getting Billups to win a championship. They're getting Billups because his contract expires when they need it to, Melo loves him and he's a professional on and off the court.

[kyrv]

If by "credible" you mean 41-41 and a 1st round exit at best.

Is that not better than being 17-40 with no hope of making the playoffs? If Melo makes them 20+ wins better, that's a significant improvement.

I'm not saying Melo makes them a contender, but he gives them credibility. The Nets would have cap space in 2012. All he would have to do is wait out 1 1/2 more seasons with a Billups/Melo/Lopez core, and they would have enough space to bring in Deron Williams, Chris Paul or Dwight Howard. The Nets wouldn't have any long-term deals on the team besides him and Travis Outlaw (eh).

Maybe they should wait for that one trade (which doesn't exist) that takes them from 17 wins to 60.

[Cliff Levingston]

Cliff Levingston thinks Melo's ego is big enough to take this deal. He might ideally want to play at MSG but he'll be close enough in Brooklyn and pretty much have his own franchise in NY within a year and a half along with an owner that'll kiss the ground he walks on.

What would be funny though is when they don't start winning a whole lot of games. That resulting team isn't any better than the Knicks really, who are a .500 team. Unless they could get Paul or Williams in 2012 (or Howard somehow) then they'll never be a serious threat. The dirty little secret is that Lopez is a rich man's Eddy Curry. Per 36 this year, he's got 20 points on 47.5% shooting, 6 boards, 1.5 assists, 1.5 blocks and 2.5 turnovers. Eddy Curry in his second year (straight out of high school no less) put up 19.5 points on 58.5% shooting, 8 boards, 0.8 assists, 1.5 blocks and 3.1 turnovers per 36. Having Melo take offensive pressure off will help his efficiency but it won't help on the glass or defensively.

[TheRealestMC]

wow.......i mean the team will give up everything for melo.....but do they really have anything outside lopez and favors? those 4 first rounders are going to cutler the nets.....

People fail to realize that the Nets have a large collection of other team's 1st round draft picks which include teams like the Lakers and Hawks (I believe). So they won't get Cutlered. Cutler wasn't a Top 10 player and might not even be a Top 10 QB. Melo is a Top 8 player. I like the deal for the Nets since they have a large collection of other team's 1st rounders that are low in the draft order anyway. It's not like they are trading 4 first rounders that were originally Nets' picks.

[kyrv]

Cliff Levingston thinks Melo's ego is big enough to take this deal. He might ideally want to play at MSG but he'll be close enough in Brooklyn and pretty much have his own franchise in NY within a year and a half along with an owner that'll kiss the ground he walks on.

What would be funny though is when they don't start winning a whole lot of games. That resulting team isn't any better than the Knicks really, who are a .500 team. Unless they could get Paul or Williams in 2012 (or Howard somehow) then they'll never be a serious threat. The dirty little secret is that Lopez is a rich man's Eddy Curry. Per 36 this year, he's got 20 points on 47.5% shooting, 6 boards, 1.5 assists, 1.5 blocks and 2.5 turnovers. Eddy Curry in his second year (straight out of high school no less) put up 19.5 points on 58.5% shooting, 8 boards, 0.8 assists, 1.5 blocks and 3.1 turnovers per 36. Having Melo take offensive pressure off will help his efficiency but it won't help on the glass or defensively.

Lopez' rebounding has gone WAY down in 3 years. His points are up but his FG% is down and turnovers up. Seems to getting markedly worse but shooting more.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Nets won't make it this season, but they would next season. Season after they go to Brooklyn and have big cap space.

The Nets aren't getting Billups to win a championship. They're getting Billups because his contract expires when they need it to, Melo loves him and he's a professional on and off the court.

Exactly. Melo isn't worth that much to anyone else, but he is to NJ. Moving into a new arena in a new city they need a star to market and build around. Melo is perfect.


As for the 4 first round picks - NJ has 5 first round picks over the next two years. So they'll stil have a first rounder next year at the very least.

So NJ will have a marketable star, a probable .500 team, and the cap space to sign a mega-FA the season they move to Brooklyn.

This is a deal they need to make.