[Camelo Thread Part 21] - Knicks Met With Melo Thursday

knicks9784 · Post #701 » by **knicks9784** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:48 am

god shammgod wrote:melo all of a sudden is not worried about this anymore

completely different demeanor than his interview earlier in the day

TKF · Post #702 » by **TKF** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:48 am

gallo should tell denver he is not going to report and headed back to italy.. that would be golden!!

Post #703 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:49 am

knicks210 wrote:
captain subtext wrote:The thing is: We need another Slam Dunk in the 2011 Draft to somehow have a chance to make this team better in the future.

Also, it pains me an awful lot to see three players go that clearly had the NYK in their heart.

Thats the thing, they took SO much pride, if this goes through.. im going to miss them for their passion and will to win and be apart of something we havent seen in a while

good post i will miss them too but at the end of the day there heart got us a 500 record. We want championship runs

NJ_YANKEE_45 · Post #704 » by **NJ_YANKEE_45** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:49 am

Rucari23 wrote:melo looks :

A) high
B) Drunk
C) Like a knick.

Fans Choose.

All three

NYK0605 · Post #705 » by **NYK0605** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:49 am

duetta wrote:
Knicker23 wrote:Lol at people using 'when Amare start to break down this team will be different' blah blah blah.... how the hell are we going to look surrounded by mediocre Gallos and Chandlers when he starts breaking down?!! And how could it POSSIBLY be worse than with Melo beside him.

I'm glad some people will be rooted out by this.

Mediocre? Books are not closed on any of these players - but what you see with MegloMelo is what you're gonna get. Dude's a low IQ player who doesn't make his teammates better - but is being confused with a franchise talent by an owner who still listens to the architect of the Marbury and Curry trades. Lebron's gonna make him look sad in the playoffs, even though Anthony will be making more money.

Did you happen to miss Melo being drafted to lottery Denver team and COMPLETELY changing that whole franchise around?

I have no idea how this is a bad deal.

GunRanger · Post #706 » by **GunRanger** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:49 am

AggO wrote:
shtolky wrote:I think it's a little funny that some are complaining about giving up too much if this goes down. Sure, we are giving up some talent but we will have Amare and Melo on the same team...after the decade we've endured to finally have two superstars and two future HOF'ers and people are complaining? We would still have flexibility and don't forget Billups is no slouch. Fields, Douglas, and Mosgov would still be here and the only real loss would be Gallo since Chandler would be a goner anyway. People keep forgetting we'd be acquiring Carmelo Anthony, probably the best scorer in the game.

prove it.

because we dont after this trade.

Did we have flexibility before?

We had a bunch of guys playing the same position. We're not re-signing Chandler anyway, Felton was always going to be a stop-gap, so essentially we're giving up Gallo and Ray for Chauncey and Melo.

Our starting lineup is stronger with this deal. How is that disputable?

casesuggs6 · Post #707 » by **casesuggs6** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:49 am

NJ_YANKEE_45 wrote:Sager interviewing Melo

Slow ass computer.

He didn't offer anything new.

Danny1024 · Post #708 » by **Danny1024** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:49 am

Rucari23 wrote:melo looks :

A) high
B) Drunk
C) Like a knick.

Fans Choose.

MSGLegendNY · Post #709 » by **MSGLegendNY** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:49 am

Losing Felton would hurt my soul a bit, but I'm sure seeing Melo in orange and blue would heal my wounds rather fast.

stevieg987 · Post #710 » by **stevieg987** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:49 am

GONYK wrote:
stevieg987 wrote:
Those two plus cap holds and picks will be around 47.5 Million. Barring a miracle we will not have enough cap space for a max. Good luck building a team around two highly flawed players taking up 2/3s of the cap space. Talent wise it is a slight improvement. Salary and future growth it is a big regression.

Long term this is going to be considered a fleecing.

Long term? What does that mean?

When in 5 years we look back at a Knicks team that never made it past the second round, while Denver got a jump start on a rebuild and Melo is on his last legs while Gallo, Chandler, and AR are in their prime. Don't forget we are giving up Randolph as well. You put these players in the right environment and they all have all star potential.

Melo is so happy. Damn he is definitely a Knick.

shtolky · Post #711 » by **shtolky** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:49 am

AggO wrote:
shtolky wrote:I think it's a little funny that some are complaining about giving up too much if this goes down. Sure, we are giving up some talent but we will have Amare and Melo on the same team...after the decade we've endured to finally have two superstars and two future HOF'ers and people are complaining? We would still have flexibility and don't forget Billups is no slouch. Fields, Douglas, and Mosgov would still be here and the only real loss would be Gallo since Chandler would be a goner anyway. People keep forgetting we'd be acquiring Carmelo Anthony, probably the best scorer in the game.

prove it.

because we dont after this trade.

Ok I'll bite...

For arguments sake, let's say the cap figure remains similar (we can't say it will or won't so I'll say it stays largely the same). For the future, the only two guys with long term deals are A'mare and Melo. Billups expires next year. Mozgov is cheap, as is Douglas. Fields makes under a million next year. The rest of the team is dirt cheap. If we take back Melo and no long term deals, our cap figure remains virtually the same since the salaries have to match. How do we not have flexibility? Having flexibility doesn't just mean assets, it means cap space and a manageable salary structure. Don't forget after 2012 we actually have all of our picks.

What I don't understand is, with asset flexibility, don't you use that to get guys like Melo? What is the alternative? Who in the next few years is available FOR SURE that's better than Melo? D Ho, Paul, Williams...that is all speculation and uncertainty whereas Melo is for sure available now. We'd have A'mare, Melo, young talent and a great cap figure...this isn't flexibility??

Post #712 » by **duetta** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:49 am

RHODEY wrote:How can it have a cp3 attachment if this trade goes done like this. Wht will we use to trade for him? This is a guttage and I'm sick to my stomach that most cat here sound like excited school kids over it.

We shot our load for Marbury with a headband - when there are potentially three franchise / near-franchise talents on the horizon next season.

Post #713 » by **K_ick_God** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:50 am

^Wow, you have me beat by 2 or 3 years TKF. I started in 1983.

This trade could still be killed. Denver's pattern is to move the goal posts.

On one thing said above by another poster, Stoudemire is not an elite post player really. He's a face up player and slasher.

Post #714 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:50 am

TKF wrote:gallo should tell denver he is not going to report and headed back to italy.. that would be golden!!

that would be weak....he should go out and do his thing. No need to cower and leave, man up make the most of the situation and ball

god shammgod · Post #715 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:50 am

TKF wrote:gallo should tell denver he is not going to report and headed back to italy.. that would be golden!!

he can't play in italy. he's under contract.

aggo · Post #716 » by **aggo** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:50 am

you know, this is one of those trades that sucks for the first 2 weeks because we just gave away our kids for adoption.

but eventually the pain will subside and melo will find a way to win us over and help us forget about gallo, felton, and chandler.

don't shortchange melo. He aint 32. he is 26.

Fat Man · Post #717 » by **Fat Man** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:51 am

duetta wrote:
RHODEY wrote:How can it have a cp3 attachment if this trade goes done like this. Wht will we use to trade for him? This is a guttage and I'm sick to my stomach that most cat here sound like excited school kids over it.

We shot our load for Marbury with a headband - when there are potentially three franchise / near-franchise talents on the horizon next season.

One of whom already toasted to come here and who is bes friends with Melo
He also grew up idolizing Isiah.

IllegalDefense · Post #718 » by **IllegalDefense** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:51 am

duetta wrote:
RHODEY wrote:How can it have a cp3 attachment if this trade goes done like this. Wht will we use to trade for him? This is a guttage and I'm sick to my stomach that most cat here sound like excited school kids over it.

We shot our load for Marbury with a headband - when there are potentially three franchise / near-franchise talents on the horizon next season.

HarthorneWingo · Post #719 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:51 am

kingofk1ngs wrote:
Knicksrule2k4 wrote:
FisolaNYDN

James Dolan was the only Knicks official to meet with Carmelo Anthony on Thursday in LA. This is now his deal to make.

Our Owner is a moron thinking he knows more than Walsh

Gotta give Jimmy a little credit for beating Prokherov to the punch.

TKF · Post #720 » by **TKF** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:51 am

tkf.

be careful. i think dolan's meeting with melo foreshadowed much of this. We dont know if there was an ultimatum. We dont know if cp3 is waiting in the wings. Hell, DENVER MIGHT JUST REJECT THIS OFFER.

I love gallo, you know i do, but Melo playing next to an elite post player is scary.

The fact that dolan is meeting with melo just confirms that we are going to get hosed in this deal.... You can count on that man to screw up walsh's work..