OT: Nets & Nuggets Reach Agreement On Trade;Now Its Up To CA

boogydown · Post #221 » by **boogydown** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:04 am

The Knicks have offered Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Eddy Curry’s expiring contract and a No. 1 pick they still need to acquire for Anthony and Chauncey Billups. It’s a proposal the Nuggets are seriously considering, a Knicks source said.

Knicks have increased their offer.

Source: NY Post
Link: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/k ... hsIVLEI71N

Profound23 · Post #222 » by **Profound23** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:20 am

boogydown wrote:
The Knicks have offered Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Eddy Curry’s expiring contract and a No. 1 pick they still need to acquire for Anthony and Chauncey Billups. It’s a proposal the Nuggets are seriously considering, a Knicks source said.

Knicks have increased their offer.

Source: NY Post
Link: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/k ... hsIVLEI71N

I would laugh if EVERY other team in the NBA refused to trade any firsts to NY just to make sure the deal doesn't go down.

3StarburyAriza21 · Post #223 » by **3StarburyAriza21** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:28 am

[quote="The ROY"][quote][b]The Knicks are giving Denver a choice between Gallinari and Landry Fields and Denver prefers the former. New York is confident that its offer could get a trade finalized for Anthony soon.[/b]
Via Marc J. Spears/Yahoo! Sports

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1EMndLpI9
[/quote]

IDIOTS..

I'd be happy to come out of deal with Chandler/Fields/Felton and 4 firsts for Melo/Billups....the backcourt would be set[/quote]

They don't need another guard with Afflalo/Lawson/Felton, they're better off with Chandler and Gallo at the 3/4.

damedash09 · Post #224 » by **damedash09** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:35 am

melo and amare thats a problem

Post #225 » by **Ben** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:35 am

3StarburyAriza21 wrote:
The ROY wrote:
The Knicks are giving Denver a choice between Gallinari and Landry Fields and Denver prefers the former. New York is confident that its offer could get a trade finalized for Anthony soon.
Via Marc J. Spears/Yahoo! Sports

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1EMndLpI9

IDIOTS..

I'd be happy to come out of deal with Chandler/Fields/Felton and 4 firsts for Melo/Billups....the backcourt would be set

They don't need another guard with Afflalo/Lawson/Felton, they're better off with Chandler and Gallo at the 3/4.

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That might be true if Denver didn't distinguish between point guards and shooting guards, or between swingmen and power forwards. D'Antoni and possibly Don Nelson teams are about the only ones who don't make such distinctions.

The ROY · Post #226 » by **The ROY** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:46 am

3StarburyAriza21 wrote:
The ROY wrote:
The Knicks are giving Denver a choice between Gallinari and Landry Fields and Denver prefers the former. New York is confident that its offer could get a trade finalized for Anthony soon.
Via Marc J. Spears/Yahoo! Sports

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1EMndLpI9

IDIOTS..

I'd be happy to come out of deal with Chandler/Fields/Felton and 4 firsts for Melo/Billups....the backcourt would be set

They don't need another guard with Afflalo/Lawson/Felton, they're better off with Chandler and Gallo at the 3/4.

Neither is a 4 so how are they better off?

BIGGIEsmalls 23 · Post #227 » by **BIGGIEsmalls 23** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:48 am

Lets go Nets!!!! Lets go Nets!!!!!! Lets go Nets!!!!!!!!!!

Post #228 » by **pduh01** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:51 am

Both Gallo and Chandler are more of a true three than a two and a four but anyways this won't rest until the deadline than hell broke loose in the summer.

lynxminus · Post #229 » by **lynxminus** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:56 am

I'm sure it's been said before, but at what point did Billups become a throw in? I find it flummoxing that Denver isn't pushing hard for the package to be Anthony, Harrington and Anderson or Balkman instead. Billups has value in the market, doesn't he?.

gf2020hotmail · Post #230 » by **gf2020hotmail** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:11 am

lynxminus wrote:I'm sure it's been said before, but at what point did Billups become a throw in? I find it flummoxing that Denver isn't pushing hard for the package to be Anthony, Harrington and Anderson or Balkman instead. Billups has value in the market, doesn't he?.

I completely agree. To me, Billups is miles better than Felton over the next two years. Denver probably likes Felton's contact better and maybe has already done the work that there isn't a great deal out there. Most contenders (let's say top five in each conference) don't need a starting point guard and those who do (Lakers, Heat, Hawks) either don't want to take on the money or don't have the assets. It's a really fluky situation where its almost like the Knicks are having Billups forced on them.

Maybe this makes me a faint hearted pussy, but this deal would make the Knicks a really scary first round matchup for the Bulls. I'd almost rather play the Hawks.

gamer555 · Post #231 » by **gamer555** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:26 am

I'm not too worried about the Knicks. They'll be slightly better, but they are giving up a ton of young players to get Carmelo. Carmelo, Amar'e, Ancient Billups can win some games for sure, but they won't be able to beat us or Miami or the Celtics. And by the time they get around to signing CP3 or Deron, Amare will be on the decline at age 30.

Wingy · Post #232 » by **Wingy** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:26 am

gf2020hotmail wrote:
I completely agree. To me, Billups is miles better than Felton over the next two years. Denver probably likes Felton's contact better and maybe has already done the work that there isn't a great deal out there. Most contenders (let's say top five in each conference) don't need a starting point guard and those who do (Lakers, Heat, Hawks) either don't want to take on the money or don't have the assets. It's a really fluky situation where its almost like the Knicks are having Billups forced on them.

Maybe this makes me a faint hearted pussy, but this deal would make the Knicks a really scary first round matchup for the Bulls. I'd almost rather play the Hawks.

Why's that? Afraid Derrick will hurt himself due to how fast he's blowing by the NY "defense?"

KingoftheCastle · Post #233 » by **KingoftheCastle** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:30 am

So hilarious, Felton was actually decent this year, I can't believe the Knicks are going to gut their roster for this overrated loser. Hillarious people consider Melo a superstar. Laughable.

dice · Post #234 » by **dice** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:31 am

boy, how do you not take fields over gallo?

greenwing · Post #235 » by **greenwing** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:33 am

I wouldn't worry too much about a first round matchup with the Knicks. First of all, I don't think it would happen. The way we've been playing there's a pretty good chance we're going to leapfrog Boston and/or Miami for a top two seed. Secondly, if a Melo trade goes down, even if Billups is included in the deal you're talking about a team that's lost a lot of its scoring production.

A large part of New York's success has been due to athleticism and the growth of solid role players in guys like Gallinari and Chandler. This deal would deplete the Knicks of a lot of depth. And while it would absolutely make their starting lineup loads better, come playoff time their second unit is going to struggle mightily. That's something they can solve this offseason, but it would be a glaring hole for this postseason.

Jordan45822 · Post #236 » by **Jordan45822** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:36 am

dice wrote:boy, how do you not take fields over gallo?

they already have Affalo

tensai · Post #237 » by **tensai** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:36 am

I would rather have the knicks get Melo instead of paul/deron. An elite point guard in D'Antoni system is going to be sick. So get it done already.

Spimothy Leary · Post #238 » by **Spimothy Leary** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:39 am

Red Larrivee wrote:So which deal does Denver take?

Felton/Lawson
Afflalo/Chandler
Gallinari/Smith
Martin/Harrington
Nene/Birdman

+ 1 draft pick

Harris/Lawson
Afflalo/Morrow
Harrington/Smith
Martin/Favors
Nene/Birdman

+ 4 draft picks

thats the route i'd take and be glad its out there !

heck, nothing personal against noah but i'd trade him for an offer like that !

gamer555 · Post #239 » by **gamer555** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:43 am

Not to mention Amare, Carmelo, Billups (at this age) is an atrocious defensive combo. Fields helps out there, plus they have no rebounding.

Defensively, physically, the Knicks can't compete with us or the Celtics front line.

Deng, Taj, Gibson, Boozer, Noah, Asik v. Amare, Carmelo, Turiaf, Mozgev, Shawne Williams

or

Pierce, Garnett, Davis, Perkins, Shaq v. Amare, Carmelo, Turiaf, Mozgev, Shawne Williams

kyrv · Post #240 » by **kyrv** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:48 am

Jordan45822 wrote:
dice wrote:boy, how do you not take fields over gallo?

they already have Affalo

I'm pretty sure Fields can and does play SF and SG, Gallo plays SF.

I think I would take Fields like Jordan45822 to be honest.