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Re: Kobe's successor 

Post#41 » by Happyfoosball » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:01 pm

Rather try to sign him then get an injury prone big who misses 30 games a year sure. You can't even count on Bynum for the playoffs. If Orlando were to deal Howard, they would get a better deal then that. Orlando's GM isn't an ex-laker that's going to make a back room deal with your team like West did with Gasol.
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Re: Kobe's successor 

Post#42 » by Vincent 666 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:15 pm

Its not our fault that the Lakers franchise and the city of Los Angeles is better than the Magic and Orlando and players would rather player here.

Sour grapes on your part.
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Re: Kobe's successor 

Post#43 » by Slava » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:18 pm

Happyfoosball wrote:
SlavaMedvedenko wrote:If your "Superstars" could win on their own, they wouldn't be lining up at our franchise's doorsteps.


Shaw won 3 with LA, and 1 with Miami. I think he would have won a title with Orlando.


Could have, would have, should have.. don't really matter. One franchise has success others don't and the NBA can put in whatever measures they can but ultimately you cannot keep a player if he's unhappy with his current situation.

Players with 2 or 3 years on their contracts have got traded.
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Re: Kobe's successor 

Post#44 » by Penberthy » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:27 pm

Happyfoosball wrote:Rather try to sign him then get an injury prone big who misses 30 games a year sure. You can't even count on Bynum for the playoffs. If Orlando were to deal Howard, they would get a better deal then that. Orlando's GM isn't an ex-laker that's going to make a back room deal with your team like West did with Gasol.


And what team is going to offer a better deal than Bynum when dwight says he will only sign an extension with the lakers? Some team is going to give up all their young talent for a one year rental? I think not.
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Re: Kobe's successor 

Post#45 » by Happyfoosball » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:53 pm

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Happyfoosball wrote:Rather try to sign him then get an injury prone big who misses 30 games a year sure. You can't even count on Bynum for the playoffs. If Orlando were to deal Howard, they would get a better deal then that. Orlando's GM isn't an ex-laker that's going to make a back room deal with your team like West did with Gasol.


And what team is going to offer a better deal than Bynum when dwight says he will only sign an extension with the lakers? Some team is going to give up all their young talent for a one year rental? I think not.


In that case Orlando would keep him and take one more shot at a title. He'd become a free agent and if the Lakers could get under the cap they could sign him. But Orlando won't trade him for a bum that they'd never win with. Bynum is a good role player, that's it. He's not even worth an expiring D12.
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Re: Kobe's successor 

Post#46 » by Jetset » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:00 pm

Happyfoosball wrote:
Penberthy wrote:
Happyfoosball wrote:Rather try to sign him then get an injury prone big who misses 30 games a year sure. You can't even count on Bynum for the playoffs. If Orlando were to deal Howard, they would get a better deal then that. Orlando's GM isn't an ex-laker that's going to make a back room deal with your team like West did with Gasol.


And what team is going to offer a better deal than Bynum when dwight says he will only sign an extension with the lakers? Some team is going to give up all their young talent for a one year rental? I think not.


In that case Orlando would keep him and take one more shot at a title. He'd become a free agent and if the Lakers could get under the cap they could sign him. But Orlando won't trade him for a bum that they'd never win with. Bynum is a good role player, that's it. He's not even worth an expiring D12.

Orlando isn't getting past Miami, or even Boston for that matter. Your team is capped out without any way to improve, and unless teams are willing to take on your bad contracts, thats how it'll stay until Howard leaves. Why would Orlando let Howard leave for nothing and take a massive hit? They wouldn't. Denver doesn't want to trade Melo but they have no choice because they cannot afford the hit the franchise will take if he leaves in FA, and the same will apply with Orl. Orlando will trade him for the best value they can get in return, despite what you think. Go ahead, take a look around the league no one else has anything better to offer for Howard than what you claim to be a "bummy good role player".

Your posts have come off as bitter, its not our fault your GM has terrible decision making skills. If it were any other franchise I don't believe you Magic fans would be as irate, but because it is the Lakers and coincidentally the same thing happened with Shaq, you all cannot stand to see Deja Vu take full course.
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Re: Kobe's successor 

Post#47 » by Happyfoosball » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:01 pm

Do you really think the Lakers are any better off? The only reason they won the past two years was that KG was hurt in both playoffs. Celtics would have had a 3 peat had he not been. If the Lakers don't get Dwight, and I really don't think they will, how do you think they will be in the future? They have bad contracts too, Kobe's on bad legs, Artest is starting to revert, and everyone else outside of Gasol has little value. The lakers rely on other teams to keep their franchise going. I hope the tag happens be cause it isn't right, it's one of the main reason there has been so little parody in the NBA the past 30 years. But yeah, I am still bitter over Shaq leaving. And the bottom line is the trades happened because Dwight wanted them too, and really it's very possible Gilbert could become healthy, he's only 29 and you don't know for sure he's done. KG looked done last year, he doesn't look done now. If Arenas gets healthy, Orlando could be a real force. There is no reason Howard can't win a title there. BTW, didn't the Magic just thump the Lakers by 18 last week?
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Re: Kobe's successor 

Post#48 » by Jetset » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:09 pm

Happyfoosball wrote:Do you really think the Lakers are any better off? The only reason they won the past two years was that KG was hurt in both playoffs. Celtics would have had a 3 peat had he not been. If the Lakers don't get Dwight, and I really don't think they will, how do you think they will be in the future? They have bad contracts too, Kobe's on bad legs, Artest is starting to revert, and everyone else outside of Gasol has little value. The lakers rely on other teams to keep their franchise going. I hope the tag happens be cause it isn't right, it's one of the main reason there has been so little parody in the NBA the past 30 years. But yeah, I am still bitter over Shaq leaving. And the bottom line is the trades happened because Dwight wanted them too, and really it's very possible Gilbert could become healthy, he's only 29 and you don't know for sure he's done. KG looked done last year, he doesn't look done now. If Arenas gets healthy, Orlando could be a real force. There is no reason Howard can't win a title there. BTW, didn't the Magic just thump the Lakers by 18 last week?

I hate to sound spoiled, but if we dont get Dwight then we'll get someone else to be our star player. Thing is outside of Kobe, Gasol, and Artest our contracts actually become movable around the summer of 2012, unlike your team who is stuck until way after. Your grand argument for the Celtics does you no favors here. In that 08 series Bynum along with Ariza were injured, as for 09 one could make the arguement that Orlando wouldn't have went to the Finals giving Howard yet another reason as to why he should get out of town, and for '10 Bynum was injured, and Kobe was battling a messed up knee and fingers. We had injuries too, but we battled through them and collected championship rings. Nice try, trying to downplay our success.
And blame bad luck being the reason as to why your franchise is nothing more than a talent farm. You'll groom your players, and when they reach their peak teams will take them and give them better homes and a better chance to succeed. I wouldn't count on the tag happening if I were you, if the player wants out he should get his wish, not be shackled down by the owner and this silly franchise tag.
No one is afraid of Gilbert Arenas he is not going to be an X-factor in anything, so placing your hope on a Hibaci breakthrough is foolish. He's done. And ever since that victory, you Magic fans have become arrogant and down right annoying and disrespectful around here. It's funny because the fans who are steadily bashing us were the ones who were afraid Kobe was going to go off for 40. I'm glad that the win was enjoyable for your fanbase, hopefully while you all sobbing about Howard leaving, you all will think back to the time that you beat the Lakers on a Sunday during the regular season.
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Re: Kobe's successor 

Post#49 » by Penberthy » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:02 pm

The End.
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Re: Kobe's successor 

Post#50 » by TruSkool » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:08 pm

no doubt, the lakers will look and they will LOOK BIG for a kobe replacement... question is--is somebody willing to step into the shoes and do with this franchise what magic, shaq, kobe, and kareem have done?

its gona take some mega talent, not a some 3 time allstar.

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