Trade deadline predictions/desires

[revprodeji]

Simple Questions.

1.) What do you hope will happen?
2.) What would you like to happen, but is not likely?
3.) In the end, what will happen?

For me

1.) Two deals
Mayo+Thabeet for Flynn+Johnson+Koufos
-Mayo and Johnson are similar for me, but Mayo has better ball skills and is a 2. Thabeet is a buy-low defensive big.
Randolph+Curry for Brewer
-Seems the latest rumors do not involve a pick, but simply taking Randolph for Curry and sending Brewer.

Darko/Pekovic/Thabeet
Love/Randolph/Tolly
Beasley/Webster/Randolph
Mayo/Webster/Ellingson
Ridnour/Bassy

2.) I would like a deal for Iggy. Something like Johnson+pick+Koufos

3.) I honestly think nothing will happen. I have no faith in Kahn.

[moss_is_1]

Have you heard any rumblings of your first deal, or just something you'd like?

I'm guessing we'll only see a deal for Randolph.

[phonzadellika]

I'd love for the wolves to get Mayo and Thabeet, just so we can see what the team is like with two guys who can create their own shots, but I'd rather keep Johnson and send out a pick instead, so I'd probably make it Flynn, Memphis 1st, Koufos for them. I think Johnson, despite his midseason regression, is better than what we would get with that pick. I think we should keep Johnson for another year, use him as a SF off the bench/6th man, and then see what he's worth after next year.

Not sure if Memphis would like that, I'd probably be willing to switch out Webster or Brewer for Koufos to get it done.

I think they'll pick up Randolph and will call it a trade deadline.

[cpfsf]

Simple Questions.

1.) What do you hope will happen?
2.) What would you like to happen, but is not likely?
3.) In the end, what will happen?

1.) That we don't make a move for the sake of making a move.
2.) Varajao, Iguodala, Ellis (not going to bother posting proposals).
3.) Randolph and Curry

[revprodeji]

We need to do something with the SG spot. Perhaps Johnson does have potential, but that potential is what makes him desirable for Memphis.

I would rather give up their pick then Johnson. I just wanted to give value.

[C.lupus]

1 and 2 are combined for me. i hope we trade for Iguadala and Varejao but it won't happen.

3. I expect Randolph and Curry for cap space and Telfair (or maybe Koufus). Wouldn't be surprised if that didn't happen, though.

[AQuintus]

Flynn and Johnson for Thabeet and Mayo would be an absolutely brutal trade for us right now. Mayo's trade value is in the gutter right now due to his poor play, complete lack of improvement since he was drafted, and recent suspension, and Thabeet isn't close to worth his salary. There's absolutely no point in overpaying for him at this point.

[phonzadellika]

Mayo seems to be on the outs there though, kind of like Flynn is here... and I really think Flynn would be better on their team...if we threw in Webster that gives them a 6th man that produces similarly to Mayo without the headaches...like someone else said, who knows what goes on Memphis though...

They're all pipe dreams though. Kahn should have chased Iggy hard earlier in the year back when the sixers sucked. Contract or not, that man would have made this team a lot better.

[revprodeji]

I see Mayo and Johnson as almost equal in value. I do not see Johnson improving much more than what he is now. I see Mayo as a player that can get his shot off and create for others.

Thabeet would be a buy low deal. He has intense defensive potential. He is not worth his contract or draft position, but we are about to lose our cap space anyway. It would give us a young big that at worse could be a bench producer.

Perhaps I am offering too much? We need to do something to fix the SG position.

[karch34]

1.) Like Rev's two deals, but Johnson is tough to include in the Mayo-Thabeet deal . I do think Mayo is beter now and still has more upside so I do it, but would try other players instead of Johnson.

2.)Iggy or Ellis. Not feeling the Varejao love that's engulfed this board.

3.) Randolph. I'm torn as I wouldn't mind Randolph, but really want NJ to get Carmelo. The latter makes it less likely we get Randolph.

[eToasT]

I want monta ellis. what would we have to give up to get him?

[revprodeji]

Monta has high value right now. I doubt he gets moved.

[pumunga]

I want monta ellis. what would we have to give up to get him?

i want lebron james

[shangrila]

I see Mayo and Johnson as almost equal in value. I do not see Johnson improving much more than what he is now. I see Mayo as a player that can get his shot off and create for others.

So you don't think the rookie, half way through his first season, can improve but the 3rd year guy who has gotten worse every year he's been in the NBA somehow will?

[revprodeji]

Aggressive play and ball-handling matter a lot for a SG. Right now Wes has shown himself to be a good spot up shooter, decent athlete and defender. Unless he can dramatically improve his handles and develop the killer mentality then he is limited to what he is now.

Mayo has had his % drop and his minutes dramatically changed. You could argue that he "really" is the first year player that was given opportunity, not the player that has had his minutes/shots/role jerked around.

At this stage of the game we need to gamble. Mayo has the bigger boom/bust potential. Wes is a nice role player but his potential to become a 15 ppg SG that can create his own shot is limited.

[horaceworthy]

Simple Questions.

1.) What do you hope will happen?
2.) What would you like to happen, but is not likely?
3.) In the end, what will happen?

For me

1.) Two deals
Mayo+Thabeet for Flynn+Johnson+Koufos
-Mayo and Johnson are similar for me, but Mayo has better ball skills and is a 2. Thabeet is a buy-low defensive big.
Randolph+Curry for Brewer
-Seems the latest rumors do not involve a pick, but simply taking Randolph for Curry and sending Brewer.

Darko/Pekovic/Thabeet
Love/Randolph/Tolly
Beasley/Webster/Randolph
Mayo/Webster/Ellingson
Ridnour/Bassy

2.) I would like a deal for Iggy. Something like Johnson+pick+Koufos

3.) I honestly think nothing will happen. I have no faith in Kahn.

I agree Mayo should be priority #1, and I also think Kahn should be actively seeking to help facilitate a Melo deal.

1.) I hope they wouldn't give up Wes in a Mayo deal, rather see it be something made up from the Webster/Flynn/Mem #1/Koufos type assets. The need for SG is clear. Just look at the amount of ballhandling/shot creating responsibility has fallen to Ellington recently. Mayo would really help the team, I'd just hope it wouldn't be at the expense of Wes.

On the Melo front, I hope Kahn is staying in contact with both NYK and NJN looking to take on either Murphy or Curry for incentive (likely either Randolph or a pick).

2.) Monta or Iggy would be ideal, but I don't think either have been gettable this year. I also would have loved a Varejao deal if he were still healthy.

3.) I think there's a decent chance the Wolves help facilitate a Melo deal, particularly if he ends up with NYK. Hopefully the Randolph for Brewer and taking on Curry rumors are legit and there's no pick involved. I've soured on giving up a pick for Randolph now that Utah's sputtering.

[The J Rocka]

I feel that Johnson's value can bring us something better than Mayo. Problem is that guys like Iggy or Ellis aren't too available right now, for the right price or a mind blowing offer, yes they could be traded, but nothing for what we want to give up. If both those guys were done with their teams & their teams were looking to dump them, Johnson + MEM pick + filler gets it done. We want to use Johnson to bring in a star caliber guard.

Mayo could quite possibly only need a change of scenery which could lead him back to playing like he did his rookie year, but his value is at the bottom right now and Johnson is only a rookie and has shown flashes of being a good/solid player for many years in this league. Mayo does have the better potential but I don't give him up for Mayo. It should only take Brewer/Flynn/Pek/Webster (combo of the two/three) with their own pick back to get Mayo and if that doesn't work, next.

[horaceworthy]

Aggressive play and ball-handling matter a lot for a SG. Right now Wes has shown himself to be a good spot up shooter, decent athlete and defender. Unless he can dramatically improve his handles and develop the killer mentality then he is limited to what he is now.

Mayo has had his % drop and his minutes dramatically changed. You could argue that he "really" is the first year player that was given opportunity, not the player that has had his minutes/shots/role jerked around.

At this stage of the game we need to gamble. Mayo has the bigger boom/bust potential. Wes is a nice role player but his potential to become a 15 ppg SG that can create his own shot is limited.

Hasn't this happened to Wes this year? They're both guys with nice jumpers that they're too in love with. Mayo brings some added ballhandling, Wes brings defensive versatility and theoretically better finishing ability (he's hypothetically a better fit with Rubio). 15 ppg SG that can create his own shot may not happen, but defensive specialist who stretches the floor, takes the more dificult perimeter matchup and benefits from good PG play is still doable.

Mayo's never really been a posterboy for dynamic shot creating ability off the bounce, at least not since he arrived at USC. He's an upgrade to what's on the roster now, but that's a bit of a backhanded compliment. Ideally the Wolves would be acquiring him to team up with Wes and Beasley on the wing, not replacing one of them.

[revprodeji]

Best case scenario would be keeping Wes with Mayo. I would offer Webster/Brewer and even their own pick before giving Johnson. I just feel that Johnson might be the sticking point for them.

[horaceworthy]

I don't see why that would be. They're pretty set at SF.