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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#101 » by Jaruff » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:21 pm

captaincrunk wrote:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=62gm5rm

The basics of the trade:

Phoenix gets Nazr (decent backup big) and Boris (instant starter).

Charlotte gets Kaman and Craig Smith.

Clippers get half man, now 1/4th amazing.

No picks, nothing. Phoenix can use that 3 million to pay off some of Diaw's contract or whatever they want. If anyone has a right to complain it's the Clippers, but this is the kind of trade they'll need to make to keep Eric Bledsoe, Eric Gordon, and Blake Griffin on roster. They could sign a guy in FA next year with this trade, and then hold the fort and resign their guys as the rookie deals are running out. Baron Davis would be hard to move. Maybe the Cavs would take him, they said they would take big contracts and wait it out in exchange for picks.


I still don't like it:

- Diaw has logged at least 70 games in every season but one (not counting this year). He may not be great but he's very reliable.
- Kaman, well, not so much.
- If Kaman is injured again this year, we may not make the playoffs (yes, let's win with Craig Smith and Najera).
- If Kaman is injured again next year, we may not make the playoffs (we really need to so that the Chicago pick can be surrendered while it's not a lotto pick).
- Craig Smith is nice but he's no Diaw.
- Always a very small chance that Diaw declines is Player Option if a team promises him a long-term (remember, Tyson considered declining his option last year).

There are better options out there for a playoff bubble team than a guy who has played a whopping 11 games this season.
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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#102 » by captaincrunk » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:24 pm

Jaruff wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=62gm5rm

The basics of the trade:

Phoenix gets Nazr (decent backup big) and Boris (instant starter).

Charlotte gets Kaman and Craig Smith.

Clippers get half man, now 1/4th amazing.

No picks, nothing. Phoenix can use that 3 million to pay off some of Diaw's contract or whatever they want. If anyone has a right to complain it's the Clippers, but this is the kind of trade they'll need to make to keep Eric Bledsoe, Eric Gordon, and Blake Griffin on roster. They could sign a guy in FA next year with this trade, and then hold the fort and resign their guys as the rookie deals are running out. Baron Davis would be hard to move. Maybe the Cavs would take him, they said they would take big contracts and wait it out in exchange for picks.


I still don't like it:

- Diaw has logged at least 70 games in every season but one (not counting this year). He may not be great but he's very reliable.
- Kaman, well, not so much.
- If Kaman is injured again this year, we may not make the playoffs (yes, let's win with Craig Smith and Najera).
- If Kaman is injured again next year, we may not make the playoffs (we really need to so that the Chicago pick can be surrendered while it's not a lotto pick).
- Craig Smith is nice but he's no Diaw.
- Always a very small chance that Diaw declines is Player Option if a team promises him a long-term (remember, Tyson considered declining his option last year).

There are better options out there for a playoff bubble team than a guy who has played a whopping 11 games this season.

I don't really like it either, but I had to at least try. The suns are just bad trade partners for us.
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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#103 » by Miklo » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:12 am

Guys, I just wanted to give you a heads up that the source on these Suns board rumors has not been verified by the mods as of yet.
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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#104 » by BigSlam » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:15 am

Miklo wrote:Guys, I just wanted to give you a heads up that the source on these Suns board rumors has not been verified by the mods as of yet.

Thanks Miklo.
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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#105 » by captaincrunk » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:31 am

Miklo wrote:Guys, I just wanted to give you a heads up that the source on these Suns board rumors has not been verified by the mods as of yet.

:oops: :oops: :oops:

I've been operating under the assumption that the rumors were legitimate.
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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#106 » by Miklo » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:48 am

captaincrunk wrote:
Miklo wrote:Guys, I just wanted to give you a heads up that the source on these Suns board rumors has not been verified by the mods as of yet.

:oops: :oops: :oops:

I've been operating under the assumption that the rumors were legitimate.


I'm hoping they will be (well I don't like the trade but just hope it isn't hysteria for nothing), the member's been around for a while, just haven't heard back yet from an attempt yesterday. I'll keep you guys advised.
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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#107 » by captaincrunk » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:01 am

Miklo wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
Miklo wrote:Guys, I just wanted to give you a heads up that the source on these Suns board rumors has not been verified by the mods as of yet.

:oops: :oops: :oops:

I've been operating under the assumption that the rumors were legitimate.


I'm hoping they will be (well I don't like the trade but just hope it isn't hysteria for nothing), the member's been around for a while, just haven't heard back yet from an attempt yesterday. I'll keep you guys advised.

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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#108 » by Marvel » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:27 am

Yeah lol, i don't see the Clippers doing this trade, makes no sense for them to do it.
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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#109 » by Miklo » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:30 am

The source has been verified, of course this is still a rumor we're talking about but at the very least this is some of the chatter coming through some of the grapevines.
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Post#110 » by Stun704 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:58 am

Miklo wrote:The source has been verified, of course this is still a rumor we're talking about but at the very least this is some of the chatter coming through some of the grapevines.

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Just to clarifiy, your saying the source for the 3 way LAC-PHX-CHA trade is verified right?
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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#111 » by countryboi » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:24 pm

Miklo wrote:The source has been verified, of course this is still a rumor we're talking about but at the very least this is some of the chatter coming through some of the grapevines.


how in the heck do you verify anything.....i wish we had people here that tell if a rumor was crap or not
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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#112 » by BigSlam » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:26 pm

countryboi wrote:
Miklo wrote:The source has been verified, of course this is still a rumor we're talking about but at the very least this is some of the chatter coming through some of the grapevines.

how in the heck do you verify anything.....i wish we had people here that tell if a rumor was crap or not

You can do back ground checks. That's why anyone who claims to have a legit rumor has to be able to verify it with a mod or risk being banned from RGM.
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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#113 » by countryboi » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:46 pm

word? who knew.....and i was just about to start a rumor about jackson for lebron
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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#114 » by captaincrunk » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:09 pm

countryboi wrote:word? who knew.....and i was just about to start a rumor about jackson for lebron

Source? I don't know if we're getting good value because we'd probably have to give up Diaw to make salaries work.
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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#115 » by BigSlam » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:40 pm

countryboi wrote:word? who knew.....and i was just about to start a rumor about jackson for lebron

Verified.
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Re: Rumor on Suns board 

Post#116 » by captaincrunk » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:12 pm

BigSlam wrote:
countryboi wrote:word? who knew.....and i was just about to start a rumor about jackson for lebron

Verified.

Are we at least getting some draft picks? Maybe Magliore to balance the talent out? We're getting shafted. LeBron has a huge contract. Damn. Well I guess we can expect a 13 win season now...

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