Woj: HOU still wants Asik for Lee, CHI determined to add SG

captaincrunk · Post #241 » by **captaincrunk** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:56 pm

BuffaloBull wrote:If Memphis needs Taj to get a deal done, I don't see one happening. Basically, all of the deals on the table now seem 1 move away from happening. Will the Bulls get a team to blink, and just take picks?

Wilson Chandler's intriguing. We'd have to pay for him this offseason, and I think he's more a sf than he is a 2, but he's a good athlete who can score from a lot of different places on the floor. An intriguing backup option I'd have to think about.

The reports are that he will need offseason ankle surgery... again. Probably fine but it will make his contract next year less huge maybe.

Red Larrivee · Post #242 » by **Red Larrivee** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:57 pm

The problem with trading for Chandler:

1. He's looking to get PAID this summer.
2. He's not a two-guard. More of a three, who can play 2 in spurts.

So the Bulls could give up a lot of assets for him and then lose him this summer if another team makes a big offer.

biggestbullsfan · Post #243 » by **biggestbullsfan** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:57 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
AAU Teammate wrote:I'm not a JR Smith fan usually...but he'd be the cheapest of all these guys b/c of his contract status. Get him.

Latest word was that Denver is not looking to trade JR Smith - because they are hoping to resign him. With Carmelo's scoring gone, they probably figure they need him. Denver looks like they are going to try and make the playoffs this season and next.

On paper not a bad younf team. They will have to find a coach that can groom them but Lawson/Affalo/Gallo/Martin/Nene isnt a bad team. Even in the west. Better than a few team imo actually.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #244 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:58 pm

biggestbullsfan wrote:
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
AAU Teammate wrote:I'm not a JR Smith fan usually...but he'd be the cheapest of all these guys b/c of his contract status. Get him.

Latest word was that Denver is not looking to trade JR Smith - because they are hoping to resign him. With Carmelo's scoring gone, they probably figure they need him. Denver looks like they are going to try and make the playoffs this season and next.

On paper not a bad younf team. They will have to find a coach that can groom them but Lawson/Affalo/Gallo/Martin/Nene isnt a bad team. Even in the west. Better than a few team imo actually.

Yep - I actually like what they've done, and don't expect their record to get any worse. Karl will get them to play defense, and they have the horses to run.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #245 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:59 pm

They can't keep anyone. They're going to have to keep either Afflalo or Smith because they're not going to sign both with Chandler expiring as well.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #246 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:00 pm

bullsnewdynasty wrote:They can't keep anyone. They're going to have to keep either Afflalo or Smith because they're not going to sign both with Chandler expiring as well.

Chandler won't even start for them - I expect they'll just let him go, or possibly get a pick in a S&T.

KingoftheCastle · Post #247 » by **KingoftheCastle** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:01 pm

Ralphb07 wrote:I hate to be one of those I got sources and take it with a grain of salt but I just got a text from someone I trust ( They actually texted me early yesterday saying Toronto was one of the teams we were talking to) is saying Houston is asking for Asik, Charlotte's 1st and Miami's 1st for Courtney Lee and Jordan Hill

I hate posting stuff because it's 3rd hand and know a lot of you's like to poke fun at people but oh well.

just read this...Houston is out of their **** mind if they think Lee is worth that.

bad knees · Post #248 » by **bad knees** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:02 pm

Lots of poker, lots of options - for the Bulls. We have the leverage, and we do not have Isiah/Dolan running the show. This is going to turn out good for us.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #249 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:02 pm

KingoftheCastle wrote:
Ralphb07 wrote:I hate to be one of those I got sources and take it with a grain of salt but I just got a text from someone I trust ( They actually texted me early yesterday saying Toronto was one of the teams we were talking to) is saying Houston is asking for Asik, Charlotte's 1st and Miami's 1st for Courtney Lee and Jordan Hill

I hate posting stuff because it's 3rd hand and know a lot of you's like to poke fun at people but oh well.

just read this...Houston is out of their **** mind if they think Lee is worth that.

Houston can go **** themselves then. We'll trade the Miami pick for Anthony Parker.

biggestbullsfan · Post #250 » by **biggestbullsfan** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:03 pm

No,, MEm is out of their minds. I think they somehow believe that Mayo is going to get them a return of a D. Rose type of talent. In whcih case, they are crazier than I believe.

Or thats what the Mem fans seem to think.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #251 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:03 pm

Jordan Hill is marginally better than Thabeet and is actually deserving of an NBA roster spot. That said - no way is Lee/Hill worth Asik/2 firsts from Chicago.

Hell no.

Ralphb07 · Post #252 » by **Ralphb07** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:04 pm

bad knees wrote:Lots of poker, lots of options - for the Bulls. We have the leverage, and we do not have Isiah/Dolan running the show. This is going to turn out good for us.

Yep, that JJ deal opened a lot for us. That pick holds more value so we can now overpay with picks and force Houston or Memphis to budge.

Cliff Levingston · Post #253 » by **Cliff Levingston** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:05 pm

Ralphb07 wrote:
Cliff Levingston wrote:
Ralphb07 wrote:Here's the Memphis offer, Thabeet and Mayo for Taj, Bogans, Char pick, Bulls pick... Bulls prefer to trade all 3 picks and 2nd rdner, also CJ could be moved......

That's what we offered or what they offered?

Sorry from Memphis side. Bulls want to deal picks only.....

If that's the case, Cliff Levingston hopes the Bulls play some hard ball. Taking Thabeet off their hands while saving them immediate money has to be worth something. If we give up Taj, Cliff Levingston would hope that we can hold onto the Charlotte pick to use in the future. Omer would need to step up and take Taj's minutes but Cliff Levingston thinks we could get away with that. Noah, Boozer and Thomas with Asik sprinkled in this year; Boozer, Noah and Asik with Thomas sprinkled in next year. In exchange for Mayo; that's do-able.

KingoftheCastle · Post #254 » by **KingoftheCastle** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:05 pm

And if I'm considering doing this deal, which I'm not, I'm giving up Taj, not Asik. What good is Jordan Hill going to do behind both Boozer and Taj at the 4.

lostonbase · Post #255 » by **lostonbase** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:05 pm

What's the pick value for two late round 1st's? Would you do 2 1st's for Courtney Lee?

TheAdmiral · Post #256 » by **TheAdmiral** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:06 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:Jordan Hill is marginally better than Thabeet and is actually deserving of an NBA roster spot. That said - no way is Lee/Hill worth Asik/2 firsts from Chicago.

Hell no.

This.

JOHN · Post #257 » by **JOHN** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:07 pm

The madness of the trade deadline.Bulls and Celtics are also in talks with Phoenix about Pietrus.there is talk for GWallace to Cleveland and Yao Ming for Granger.that's the latest I got from various NBA scouts in Spain and Italy.Lets just wait.Im sure the Bulls will not screw team chemistry

Deepness5134 · Post #258 » by **Deepness5134** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:08 pm

OOOMMMMGGGG I LOVE THE TRADE DEADLINE!

KingoftheCastle · Post #259 » by **KingoftheCastle** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:08 pm

lostonbase wrote:What's the pick value for two late round 1st's? Would you do 2 1st's for Courtney Lee?

I would do our first and the first from Miami, yes.

Ralphb07 · Post #260 » by **Ralphb07** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:09 pm

JOHN wrote:The madness of the trade deadline.Bulls and Celtics are also in talks with Phoenix about Pietrus.there is talk for GWallace to Cleveland and Yao Ming for Granger.that's the latest I got from various NBA scouts in Spain and Italy.Lets just wait.Im sure the Bulls will not screw team chemistry

I've heard the Pietrus talks too. I just don't like him so don't like bringing him up :lol: