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Post#1 » by xam2k7 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:04 am

Does anyone understand remotely what that proposed deal wouldve done for us? he have brook and wed be trading a first rounder with harris for an older PG and a guy with 80 yr old knees. thank god billy king came to his senses in time.
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Post#2 » by Jersey Generals » Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:07 am

Could have offered him his QO to get healthy, where he wouldn't have to play all that much behind Brook. If he stayed healthy and showed a lot, perhaps he could have been sign and traded away or even kept. He still has a lot of hype because, quite honestly, when he was on the floor, he is/was a beast. Now, him being on the floor in the first place in the problem.
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Post#3 » by Vinsanity420 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:18 am

The Nets offered Devin Harris, Troy Murphy and the 2012 first round pick of Houston's for Greg Oden, Andre Miller and Joel Przybilla, according to the report.

Portland declined that offer and countered with the request of Golden State's 2012 first round pick, which is top-seven protected.

The Nets instead ended up acquiring Deron Williams.


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Post#4 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:11 pm

You have to wonder if we had a deal with Utah with Troy Murphy and Farmar in place of Devin with another player coming back with Deron and either another deal lined up with Lopez or we planned on trading for another star on draft night with Lopez and then we would have had Oden's Bird Rights going into free agency.
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Post#5 » by NyCeEvO » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:03 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:You have to wonder if we had a deal with Utah with Troy Murphy and Farmar in place of Devin with another player coming back with Deron and either another deal lined up with Lopez or we planned on trading for another star on draft night with Lopez and then we would have had Oden's Bird Rights going into free agency.

Whoa, my brain hurts. Can you spell it out for me lol? I don't get what you were saying.
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Post#6 » by nycefnl » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:07 pm

it frightens me that this was even remotely a possibility. I started think maybe Billy King knew what he was doing all along. Now it seems he just got very luck and possibly was contacted by Utah.
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Post#7 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:08 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:You have to wonder if we had a deal with Utah with Troy Murphy and Farmar in place of Devin with another player coming back with Deron and either another deal lined up with Lopez or we planned on trading for another star on draft night with Lopez and then we would have had Oden's Bird Rights going into free agency.

Whoa, my brain hurts. Can you spell it out for me lol? I don't get what you were saying.

Haha, lol.

I was saying I wonder if we had the same deal with Utah, but with Troy Murphy and Farmar in place of Devin, with another player from Utah coming back to NJ with Deron to cut as much salary for Utah as possible. Not even necessarily long term, but an expanded deal with maybe AK47 for instance or Okur, that would have got them under the tax or close to it.

Then, we were going to ship Devin and something to Portland for an expiring and Oden, so we had Oden's Bird Rights to either match, or S&T him somewhere for a TPE and a pick or 2, or even include him in a Dwight deal.

Or Oden became insurance if we either had a third deadline deal lined up with Brook outgoing, or in case we make a trade with Brook on draft night.
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Post#8 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:09 pm

nycefnl wrote:it frightens me that this was even remotely a possibility. I started think maybe Billy King knew what he was doing all along. Now it seems he just got very luck and possibly was contacted by Utah.

He was contacted by Utah...
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Re: Greg Oden 

Post#9 » by NyCeEvO » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:21 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:You have to wonder if we had a deal with Utah with Troy Murphy and Farmar in place of Devin with another player coming back with Deron and either another deal lined up with Lopez or we planned on trading for another star on draft night with Lopez and then we would have had Oden's Bird Rights going into free agency.

Whoa, my brain hurts. Can you spell it out for me lol? I don't get what you were saying.

Haha, lol.

I was saying I wonder if we had the same deal with Utah, but with Troy Murphy and Farmar in place of Devin, with another player from Utah coming back to NJ with Deron to cut as much salary for Utah as possible. Not even necessarily long term, but an expanded deal with maybe AK47 for instance or Okur, that would have got them under the tax or close to it.

Then, we were going to ship Devin and something to Portland for an expiring and Oden, so we had Oden's Bird Rights to either match, or S&T him somewhere for a TPE and a pick or 2, or even include him in a Dwight deal.

Or Oden became insurance if we either had a third deadline deal lined up with Brook outgoing, or in case we make a trade with Brook on draft night.

Haha, ok much better. My head no longer hurts lol. That would've been interesting although I think it would've taken a bit too long to finalize. Since we already had Melo's package ready to go, it was pretty easy for Utah to just ask for that package sans the two more draft picks Denver wanted and Damian Jones lol.

You know what no one has mentioned. Remember that King said during the press conference that he runs deals by O'Connor before he does them? I'm glad that Billy has some other GM evaluating whether he's about to make a stupid deal. Thank God they're friends or I'm sure O'Connor could've literally asked for what Denver got and we'd would've given it to them. Hopefully, O'Connor will help make sure we get Howard lol.
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Re: Greg Oden 

Post#10 » by SpeedyG » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:32 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:You have to wonder if we had a deal with Utah with Troy Murphy and Farmar in place of Devin with another player coming back with Deron and either another deal lined up with Lopez or we planned on trading for another star on draft night with Lopez and then we would have had Oden's Bird Rights going into free agency.

Whoa, my brain hurts. Can you spell it out for me lol? I don't get what you were saying.

Haha, lol.

I was saying I wonder if we had the same deal with Utah, but with Troy Murphy and Farmar in place of Devin, with another player from Utah coming back to NJ with Deron to cut as much salary for Utah as possible. Not even necessarily long term, but an expanded deal with maybe AK47 for instance or Okur, that would have got them under the tax or close to it.

Then, we were going to ship Devin and something to Portland for an expiring and Oden, so we had Oden's Bird Rights to either match, or S&T him somewhere for a TPE and a pick or 2, or even include him in a Dwight deal.

Or Oden became insurance if we either had a third deadline deal lined up with Brook outgoing, or in case we make a trade with Brook on draft night.


Still wouldn't make sense, since we'd then have Deron and Miller on the same team.

Right place, right time, right relationship.

That seems to be the case on how we landed Deron. If King and O'Connor didn't have ties to their Philly days, Deron probably wouldn't be a Net.
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Post#11 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:38 pm

SpeedyG wrote:Still wouldn't make sense, since we'd then have Deron and Miller on the same team.

Right place, right time, right relationship.

That seems to be the case on how we landed Deron. If King and O'Connor didn't have ties to their Philly days, Deron probably wouldn't be a Net.

It would have made perfect sense.

Portland would have either made it Przybilla or we immediately would have bought out Miller, I mean you make it sound as if you're concerned with Miller's feelings lol.

The Portland deal would have had nothing to do with the Utah deal, although I think they actually wanted Devin and saw him as a positive long term over getting out of the tax one year early, so in that sense it would have had a big part to do with it.

IDK, it was just a big wonder if theory, I'm probably way wrong.
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