Official Trade Thread XV: 12/22/10 - 5/3/11

[tontoz]

Blatche is listed at 260 and no way is he as strong as Booker.

So i just gave my calculator a workout and the average based on Hollingers (assuming they are correct which they might not be) top 70 listings for 4s came out to 241. that is with some big boys (Big Baby 289, Blair 270, Cousins 270) which push the average away from the median which i won't bother to try and figure out.

And they have Booker listed at 240. May or may not be correct. However i dont think it is a big reach to think he gained 4 pounds since the combine.

Quoting myself since Ruzious somehow seems to have missed it the first time.

[Ruzious]

Blatche is listed at 260 and no way is he as strong as Booker.

So i just gave my calculator a workout and the average based on Hollingers (assuming they are correct which they might not be) top 70 listings for 4s came out to 241. that is with some big boys (Big Baby 289, Blair 270, Cousins 270) which push the average away from the median which i won't bother to try and figure out.

And they have Booker listed at 240. May or may not be correct. However i dont think it is a big reach to think he gained 4 pounds since the combine.

Quoting myself since Ruzious somehow seems to have missed it the first time.

That wasn't funny. That was actually pretty nasty.

My bad - I missed the post. But look at what you said there - you're questioning the accuracy of the numbers, so I'ts obviously not a fact. You said it was a fact that I was wrong.

[tontoz]

Blatche is listed at 260 and no way is he as strong as Booker.

So i just gave my calculator a workout and the average based on Hollingers (assuming they are correct which they might not be) top 70 listings for 4s came out to 241. that is with some big boys (Big Baby 289, Blair 270, Cousins 270) which push the average away from the median which i won't bother to try and figure out.

And they have Booker listed at 240. May or may not be correct. However i dont think it is a big reach to think he gained 4 pounds since the combine.

Quoting myself since Ruzious somehow seems to have missed it the first time.

My bad - I missed the post. But look at what you said there - you're questioning the accuracy of the numbers, so I'ts obviously not a fact. You said it was a fact that I was wrong.

The individual numbers could certainly be off. I know my weight fluctuates during the year. But we are talking about a 5 pound difference over a sample of 70 players and that is assuming that Booker hasn't gained any weight since the combine.

so i feel very comfortable saying that the number you made up is absolutely wrong. It isn't even close. If you still think that Booker is 10 pounds lighter than the average PF then you are just in denial.

Feel free to add them up yourself or choose a different sample size/website.

[Ruzious]

Quoting myself since Ruzious somehow seems to have missed it the first time.

My bad - I missed the post. But look at what you said there - you're questioning the accuracy of the numbers, so I'ts obviously not a fact. You said it was a fact that I was wrong.

The individual numbers could certainly be off. I know my weight fluctuates during the year. But we are talking about a 5 pound difference over a sample of 70 players and that is assuming that Booker hasn't gained any weight since the combine.

so i feel very comfortable saying that the number you made up is absolutely wrong. It isn't even close. If you still think that Booker is 10 pounds lighter than the average PF then you are just in denial.

Feel free to add them up yourself or choose a different sample size/website.

Dude, I've been in some stupid arguments, but this might be the stupidest. I said I thought he was 10 lbs less than the average PF. You're findings - which you yourself question - say he's only 5 lbs under. So, I was off by 5 lbs. BFD. He's a small PF - shorter than average and a little bit lighter than average. I'm not sure why you find it necessary to basically call me a liar about it.

[tontoz]

Actually going by ESPNs listings you are off by 9 pounds since they have Booker at 240. It is also common knowlege that guys generally put on weight as they get older. But like i said feel free to pull up numbers from another website or recheck my addition.

Booker's strength is one of his assets. How you can't see that is beyond me. He certainly has issues with his skills by saying that most 4s are stronger than him is just a joke.

When you say something like this

but he clearly doesn't have any SF skills, and he's 6'7 235 - too small for PF.

and get called on it the "it's true because i say so" argument isn't going to carry much weight.

[Ruzious]

Actually going by ESPNs listings you are off by 9 pounds since they have Booker at 240. It is also common knowlege that guys generally put on weight as they get older. But like i said feel free to pull up numbers from another website or recheck my addition.

Booker's strength is one of his assets. How you can't see that is beyond me. He certainly has issues with his skills by saying that most 4s are stronger than him is just a joke.

OMG. Tontos, I have issues -as nate was kind enough to point out, but dude... you really have issues. We had a stupid argument that everyone who read got dumber from reading. It's time to drop it and realize that different people can have different opinions - and it's okay.

[tontoz]

Actually going by ESPNs listings you are off by 9 pounds since they have Booker at 240. It is also common knowlege that guys generally put on weight as they get older. But like i said feel free to pull up numbers from another website or recheck my addition.

Booker's strength is one of his assets. How you can't see that is beyond me. He certainly has issues with his skills by saying that most 4s are stronger than him is just a joke.

OMG. Tontos, I have issues -as nate was kind enough to point out, but dude... you really have issues. We had a stupid argument that everyone who read got dumber from reading. It's time to drop it and realize that different people can have different opinions - and it's okay.

This isn't a matter of opinion. Booker is not too small to play the 4 and he is not 10 pounds lighter than the average pf.

[AceDegenerate]

[fishercob]

Is there a term for when a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) jackass you have on ignore hijacks your thread?

[Dat2U]

I'm officially less smarter than I was before I read the last two pages of this thread. After watching tonite's game and reading this thread, I want to put a bullet through someone's skull. Like my own.

Ruz, I blame you. Your smarter than that. You should have bowed out of that miserable conversation posts ago.

I'm just glad I'm on that dudes ignore list so I don't have the unfortunate luck of getting into one of those miserable debates he always has to have with folks.

[Ed Wood]

Right... Well, because I wouldn't blame anybody who skipped a couple pages there and missed it I'd just like to reiterate that I'd like to cut Hamady N'Diaye because he is a big stiff and I would like to sign Derrick Brown, who the Bobcats just released as a result of everything they did at the deadline.

Brown has decent size for a power forward and is a good athlete who could at the very least based upon his track record in the NBA provide efficient scoring at a modest but not poor rate and defense; his rebounding hasn't been great for a power forward. Brown had pretty good +/- numbers this year considering he was on Charlotte and he'd be a good fit alongside Wall in the same way Booker is. He was a better shooter than Booker in college and apparently his form is decent so there's some hope that he may eventually manage to be a respectable shooter.

Sign him, give him half of Andray's minutes and stop ruining the thread. Thanks!

[AceDegenerate]

Is there a term for when a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) jackass you have on ignore hijacks your thread?

I love how this guy talks so big on the internet. You're so intimidating man, let me tell you.

COME AT ME BRO!

It's also puzzling as to how this jerk-off claims people "hijack his thread".. and yet somehow he chose to make this post in the Official Trade Thread?

[Ruzious]

I'm officially less smarter than I was before I read the last two pages of this thread. After watching tonite's game and reading this thread, I want to put a bullet through someone's skull. Like my own.

Ruz, I blame you. Your smarter than that. You should have bowed out of that miserable conversation posts ago.

I'm just glad I'm on that dudes ignore list so I don't have the unfortunate luck of getting into one of those miserable debates he always has to have with folks.

Hee, I wish I was better than that. You're right; I should know better. I apologize.

And I can't disagree with Ace's picture.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Ed Wood, Derrick Brown being released comes as a surprise. Charlotte's moved caused that?

Like you, I liked Brown at Xavier. He and Jordan Crawford were tough together.

[hands11]

Any mods want to stop Ace's multi-thread trolling spree? Just curious.

Oh yeah, it's definitely trolling when you don't like it. LMAO. What rule did I break again tough guy?

It's trolling when you post things just to be a hater and to get on other people's nerves. To mods: I apologize for breaking rule E.

As for you, Ace, since you asked... rules B, C, D, and J. Aside from that you're awesome.

Edit: I'm going to take the easy solution and just block Ace/Kriz/whoever else he posts as. I genuinely wanted to have an elevated level of discourse with the guy, but I don't think he's interested in the same.

You must be a amazing optimist if that is what you were thinking.

[Ed Wood]

Ed Wood, Derrick Brown being released comes as a surprise. Charlotte's moved caused that?

Like you, I liked Brown at Xavier. He and Jordan Crawford were tough together.

Yeah, a quick sashay down to the Charlotte board gave me the sense that he may have been released only so that the Wallace trade could occur and that he'd be resigned as soon as the team could wave Sean Marks, which makes sense, but if theres' any chance of grabbing him I'd be all about that.

[hands11]

Is there a term for when a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) jackass you have on ignore hijacks your thread?

That should be a thread of its own.

[theboomking]

This is still the trade thread right?

In a year like this one where there is no clear #1 that plays a need position for us, would you guys give the #1 overall to Utah for the Nets pick and the Utah pick? Based on current slotting, we'd then be choosing 6th, 15th and 23rd.

Do you think they would give up Favors and the 6th pick?

[hands11]

Well the trade deadline just passed and we made a trade. Then they just bought out Bibby today. People are probably just taking a break and evaluating what we have.

[Nivek]

I'm not sure what the conversation was about at this point, but when I checked average weight for a PF (77 players on the list), I came up with 245.5. When I weight for minutes played, the average drops to 244.4. That proves "it" whatever "it" was. I forgot.