BOSTON CELTICS AT UTAH JAZZ - 7PM FSNUT

Post #221 » by **StocktonShorts** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 4:58 am

sirslimjim wrote:So assuming the jazz miss the playoffs we'll wind up with 2 first round picks. Who do you cut from the roster to make room?

Price, Fesenko, Watson and AK are free agents. Jazz have a team option on Miles.

I'd like to bring back AK and Watson. Let the others go.

sirslimjim · Post #222 » by **sirslimjim** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 4:58 am

Yeah I'd love to have Afflalo. Last I heard though, Denver is pretty big on him. We'd probably have to overpay to get him here.

sirslimjim · Post #223 » by **sirslimjim** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:00 am

HappyProle wrote:
sirslimjim wrote:So assuming the jazz miss the playoffs we'll wind up with 2 first round picks. Who do you cut from the roster to make room?

Price, Fesenko, Watson and AK are free agents. Jazz have a team option on Miles.

I'd like to bring back AK and Watson. Let the others go.

I'd be ok with that. I think its funny how many people on here once thought Fesenko was the long term answer at center. Now he's not even worth keeping around.

Reckless · Post #224 » by **Reckless** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:01 am

or Jason Richardson, he's aging but he's still 100x better than raja

TexJazz · Post #225 » by **TexJazz** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:04 am

I remember the 2007 draft and the jazz turn came at pick #25 and I was screaming at the TV "Take Afflalo" and instead they take MONUTS OMG!!!! and two picks later the Pistons take Afflalo. KOC, what can I say, the guy just has a knack for picking 1st rounders that stay with the team.

Jampod · Post #226 » by **Jampod** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:05 am

Man. What a game what a game. I'm just happy I got to watch this one fellas.

Post #227 » by **StocktonShorts** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:06 am

TexJazz wrote:I remember the 2007 draft and the jazz turn came at pick #25 and I was screaming at the TV "Take Afflalo" and instead the MONUTS OMG!!!! and two picks later the Pistons take Afflalo. KOC, what can I say, the guy just has a knack for picking 1st rounders that stay with the team.

I don't know what you're talking about.

TexJazz · Post #228 » by **TexJazz** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:08 am

HappyProle wrote:
TexJazz wrote:I remember the 2007 draft and the jazz turn came at pick #25 and I was screaming at the TV "Take Afflalo" and instead the MONUTS OMG!!!! and two picks later the Pistons take Afflalo. KOC, what can I say, the guy just has a knack for picking 1st rounders that stay with the team.

I don't know what you're talking about.

I meant to say that the Jazz picked Morris Almond at 25 and they had a chance to take Afflalo instead. So far everyone of KOC 1st round picks except Haward are not with the team.

Post #229 » by **StocktonShorts** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:09 am

TexJazz wrote:
HappyProle wrote:
TexJazz wrote:I remember the 2007 draft and the jazz turn came at pick #25 and I was screaming at the TV "Take Afflalo" and instead the MONUTS OMG!!!! and two picks later the Pistons take Afflalo. KOC, what can I say, the guy just has a knack for picking 1st rounders that stay with the team.

I don't know what you're talking about.

I meant to say that the Jazz picked Morris Almond at 25 and they had a chance to take Afflalo instead. So far everyone of KOC 1st round picks except Haward are not with the team.

I still don't get it.
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Millsap24 · Post #230 » by **Millsap24** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:12 am

Jefferson, Millsap, Favors, Harris, Okur*, Watson, Hayward and Evans are the only guys I want to see back next season.

*I hope he will fully be healthy.

CareySkyScurry · Post #231 » by **CareySkyScurry** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:18 am

Raja was rumored to go to the Timberwolves.
Was it for Corey Brewer or salary relief.

Either way, I hope that Minnesota dropped out of the deal

TexJazz · Post #232 » by **TexJazz** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:24 am

CareySkyScurry wrote:Raja was rumored to go to the Timberwolves.
Was it for Corey Brewer or salary relief.

Either way, I hope that Minnesota dropped out of the deal

It was for Flynn, right now I would take a cheese sandwich over Bell. The guy is a shadow of his former self.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #233 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:36 am

Ya Bell needs to be benched in a bad way. Hayward deserves the minutes too.

I wish they would run some more plays for Favors, the kid is a freaking stud.

Joey Crawford is the worse NBA ref I've seen in a long time. He was just HORRID tonight.

I hate watching the Jazz lose but man...I love watching Ray Allen do his thing.

Crowd was awesome.

Millsap24 · Post #234 » by **Millsap24** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:42 am

In the 4th quarter I kept thinking, "f**k, that's going in" every time Allen was in motion to take a shot. :lol:

OC Jazzfan · Post #235 » by **OC Jazzfan** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:42 am

The emotion and effort from the Jazz was great to see. The shooting from our shooting guards was awful to see. We need (and have needed for quite a few years) a consistent shooter at the 2 spot. I like Raja but he's way past his sell by date, almost to the point where he's growing green fuzz in his armpits and smelling like penicillin.

retiredcoach · Post #236 » by **retiredcoach** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:58 am

Even though this is subjective, I thought Corbin coached a much better game this time than he did against the the Pistons. If he had managed his lineups as well against the Pistons as he did tonight, the Jazz would have won. He only had one lineup change that I had didn't think was a good idea, and it could have gone either way. I understand why he did it. This time it didn't work out in a close game, but it wasn't the reason the Jazz lost.

The Jazz lost the game on at least 7 no calls by the refs. I had 3 on Hayward, one on Kirilenko, one on Watson, and one on Jefferson that were obvious calls. It looked like they were trying to give the edge to Boston on the defensive side. Boston was packing in the paint and hacking shooters constantly. The refs gave the edge to the Jazz on fouls called, not on the fouls that should have been called. The rookie no call crap and the "make sure the stars" don't foul out wears me down.

The other two issues were defensive rebounds and the SG play. Boston could lay back and pack in the paint because the Jazz shot 14% from 3 point range. A 35% night from the 3 line and the game goes into overtime or is a win.

The Jazz need to work some 3 point shot plays for Hayward. He shots the 3 really well once he gets going. Hayward has to create too many of his own shots, and when he drives, he's not going to get the calls inside the way he should. He also needs to learn to dunk with one hand and protect with the other. He's much more effective that way. He can dunk well with both hands so I don't know what's up with the two hand dunks.

Bell will be a bench guy next year getting maybe 15 to 20 minutes. CJ will be a limited role player if he's still around. I think CJ's slump may last until late March or April. There is a very delicate balance wheel in that kid's head and right now it has fallen out of sync.

Four or five more defensive rebounds and the Jazz would have had the win despite the no calls. Defensive rebounds have cost the Jazz several games this year. I'm not sure why they were much better last season at defensive rebounding. However, I do think it's going to improve with this group.

I hope the Jefferson trade talk is settled. The only thing he didn't do in the game that I wish he could have done was take Garnett out. Garnett is one sleazy trash talker. I think even his shoes talk trash. I'm sure he insulted Jefferson's entire family. I hope he didn't bring up Hooked on Phonics!

The59Sound · Post #237 » by **The59Sound** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 6:01 am

You say "slump" as if CJ's taking good shots and just missing them. The problem is that he makes awful decisions. Is he in a "decision slump?"

retiredcoach · Post #238 » by **retiredcoach** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 6:11 am

Oh, CJ certainly makes bad decisions. I can imagine Sloan waking up in a cold sweat at night dreaming about some of them.

When you mix in slump with bad decisions, you get really poor play.

CJ needs to stop taking shots outside of 10 feet and concentrate on going inside. That way he can use his athletic ability and instincts without having to think about things. Five to seven shots from inside the paint a night will probably work out fine. Corbin also needs to find ways to motivate CJ to actually play defense. Right now CJ can't find the D in paycheck. That's a big problem also.

Reckless · Post #239 » by **Reckless** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 9:15 am

TexJazz wrote:I meant to say that the Jazz picked Morris Almond at 25 and they had a chance to take Afflalo instead. So far everyone of KOC 1st round picks except Haward are not with the team.

Almond was the jazz pick like at least a year in advance. We scouted him like crazy, liked him, everyone knew we liked him and we took him. I guess we didn't scout him enough :lol:

But yeh Afflalo was a great player on UCLA, i was mad too.

gojazzmjsucks · Post #240 » by **gojazzmjsucks** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 10:46 pm

It was great to finally see emotion out of Al!....Favors had me off my seat the entire time he was in. Harris is one of the fastest guards i have ever seen! I think the Jazz should let price and Watson go we need PG's that can shoot the ball and hit free throws. besides Harris and Hayward we need a brand new guard line! I can't say enough about Favors we might be thinking Milsap gone at the next trade deadline.