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Re: Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread 

Post#801 » by tgo2223 » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:25 am

underpressure wrote:They shouldn't, however the prospect of having much cap space and little talent is dim. You won't lure any significant free agent to this team without having any substantial talent. Having Iguodala is not a problem, rather having a 32 year-old Brand who doesn't fit the long term goals of this team and dead meat in Nocioni, Kapono or Songaila.

+1 Brand eats alot o salary but he will expire in 2013. Noc, Kopono and Songaila are the real killers
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Post#802 » by HartfordWhalers » Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:21 pm

P2K wrote:Would you agree that this team shouldn't be way above the cap like they are?


Sixers are middle of the pack in win loss and middle of the pack in salary (12th I believe). That sounds exactly right.

The entire list of teams under the cap are: Minnesota, Sac, Clippers, Cavs, Chicago, OKC. Two teams with All star game starters on rookie contracts (both teams which will be over the cap next year) and 4 teams that are a combined: 59 - 175

So at least for me, I don't see the Sixers resembling the teams on that list.
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Re: Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread 

Post#803 » by HartfordWhalers » Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:54 pm

tgo2223 wrote:
underpressure wrote:They shouldn't, however the prospect of having much cap space and little talent is dim. You won't lure any significant free agent to this team without having any substantial talent. Having Iguodala is not a problem, rather having a 32 year-old Brand who doesn't fit the long term goals of this team and dead meat in Nocioni, Kapono or Songaila.

+1 Brand eats alot o salary but he will expire in 2013. Noc, Kopono and Songaila are the real killers


Huh??

Because they expire in 2012, 2011, and 2011? As in two of them will be off the roster this upcoming free agency period. Heck Songalia wasn't on the team last free agency flurry, so I'm really not sure what the complaint is.

But even if the Sixers could eliminate all three as dead salary balast and the lingering flotsam from bad contracts of GM's past, they would have had around 7 million available last offseason, or the full MLE... Heck the team already had slightly over 4 million from the MLE available last season.
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Re: Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread 

Post#804 » by spree8 » Tue Mar 1, 2011 6:09 pm

Hey guys, I'm starting a season in Nba 2k11 with the Warriors and I'm looking to add Iggy to my squad. I also want to add Granger too to form a nice combo at the 2-3. I already checked with the Pacers board and they liked the offer for Danny, but I want to make it a 3 team deal and grab Dre too. This would be a draft day deal...

Sixers Trade:

Iguodala

Sixers Get:

2011 1st rd pick from Warriors (#11 or #12?)
2011 2nd rd pick from Warriors (#41 or #42?)
Posey (expiring)
Amundson (expiring)

Warriors Trade:

Ellis
Udoh
Bell
Amundson
2011 1st rd pick (#11 or #12)
2011 2nd rd pick (#41 or #42)

Warriors Get:

Granger
Iguodala
Hansbrough

Pacers trade:

Granger
Hansbrough
Posey

Pacers Get:

Ellis
Udoh
Bell


You guys get expirings, and picks..one being in the lotto. After reading this thread, it seems like you guys would be happy, but let me know whatcha think fellas.
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Post#805 » by Kobblehead » Wed Mar 2, 2011 2:28 am

What's his shooting percentage over the last 6 games? 34%
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Post#806 » by SJSF » Wed Mar 2, 2011 1:52 pm

Its always funny how guys want to keep Iggy but trade Brand or can't wait for his contract to run out. Without Brand this team would win 25 games. He is the only center/PF that is of quality. Where the Sixers have depth at the wing position. Its a hell of lot easier to replace a 6'6 guy then a PF/C that has talent.
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Post#807 » by SJSF » Wed Mar 2, 2011 1:56 pm

freshie2 wrote:What moves did the Sixers not make that they should have made? I agree the experience theory generally doesn't apply, but the Sixers very young core has talent and room for growth (Holiday/Turner/Young/Speights/Meeks/Hawes) and the playoff experience/success may be very beneficial to them. That should help them move into the 'leadership' roles currently occupied by Iguodala and Brand, such that the next influx of new players will be built around them at age 23-24 (just the beginning of most players' peak years). I don't think the Sixers had a landscape changing deal on the table, and they are playing very well with the current roster, so a change for the sake of change really wouldn't have made sense.



This team is built to win 40 games. A change should have been made for the future not just a small playoff run this year. Doug is trying to get this team to the playoffs just to show everyone lookm what we did. But this team has always been a 40 win team. So its not really a big deal. We should have traded Iggy and expirings for either a good player or just made a move for more cap space.
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Post#808 » by tgo2223 » Wed Mar 2, 2011 5:04 pm

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SJSF wrote:Its always funny how guys want to keep Iggy but trade Brand or can't wait for his contract to run out. Without Brand this team would win 25 games. He is the only center/PF that is of quality. Where the Sixers have depth at the wing position. Its a hell of lot easier to replace a 6'6 guy then a PF/C that has talent.

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Post#809 » by sixerswillrule » Wed Mar 2, 2011 5:08 pm

SJSF wrote:Its always funny how guys want to keep Iggy but trade Brand or can't wait for his contract to run out.


You complaining about this team being a mediocre 7th seed and saying how we need to look to the future and then talking about keeping Brand but not Iguodala is a lot funnier...
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Post#810 » by PhillyFan » Wed Mar 2, 2011 10:21 pm

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SJSF wrote:Its always funny how guys want to keep Iggy but trade Brand or can't wait for his contract to run out.


You complaining about this team being a mediocre 7th seed and saying how we need to look to the future and then talking about keeping Brand but not Iguodala is a lot funnier...

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Post#811 » by P2K » Wed Mar 2, 2011 10:21 pm

^^^You're just saying that to shade the fact that SJSF is right (Very weird saying that :-? ). Brand is the main reason this team is where it is.
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Post#812 » by sixerswillrule » Wed Mar 2, 2011 11:39 pm

I'm just saying how he contradicts himself. He wants us to give up being mediocre for a brighter future but he doesn't want to trade Brand? Yeah, that makes sense.....
I think Iguodala and Brand have both been equally important to the team this season. Brand has been most consistent when it comes to scoring, but overall they're 1a and 1b.
Anyway, if the the goal is to ditch the present for the future, keeping Brand and trading Iguodala should definitely NOT be the plan...
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Post#813 » by P2K » Wed Mar 2, 2011 11:54 pm

I don't think he is saying to keep Brand beyond when his contract is up or anything like that. But he is right that we need Brand way more than we need Iguodala, seeing as we have a player that can do his job. Can't say the same about Brand. And for the record, I don't think Iguodala has been on par with Brand this year. Sorry, but I refuse to believe that. Iguodala can go invisible and the Sixers can win because Brand is holding it down.
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Post#814 » by sixerswillrule » Thu Mar 3, 2011 12:32 am

I was talking about ASAP, not when Brand's contract is up.

That's expected from you considering your bias against Iguodala.
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Post#815 » by tgo2223 » Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:59 am

P2K wrote:I don't think he is saying to keep Brand beyond when his contract is up or anything like that. But he is right that we need Brand way more than we need Iguodala, seeing as we have a player that can do his job. Can't say the same about Brand. And for the record, I don't think Iguodala has been on par with Brand this year. Sorry, but I refuse to believe that. Iguodala can go invisible and the Sixers can win because Brand is holding it down.

+1 And lets not forget two other factors here. Brand contract expires 1yr sooner than Iggys and Brands not keeping Speights from getting minutes. Speights is keeping himself from getting mins. Iggy is in the way of Turner getting minutes at this point
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Post#816 » by Phastbreak91 » Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:54 am

Brand makes way more than Iguodala and he's over 30... so how does keeping him over Iguodala going to help our future? Brand has been good this season not great, people think he's been our savior this year when in reality he just looks so much better after bouncing back from a 13/6 season. If you want to blow it up by trading Iguodala, Brand has to go too.
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Post#817 » by Foshan » Thu Mar 3, 2011 7:19 am

tgo2223 wrote:+1 And lets not forget two other factors here. Brand contract expires 1yr sooner than Iggys and Brands not keeping Speights from getting minutes. Speights is keeping himself from getting mins. Iggy is in the way of Turner getting minutes at this point

I don't believe that is the case. Turner is keeping Turner from getting minutes. I love the kids game, but he's still a bit head-case-ie and until he gets comfortable, he's shooting himself in the foot. Plus, most of the time he's being outplayed by some combination of Jrue/Meeks/Iguodala/LWill. If Turner could consistently knock down a shot (ala Meeks), consistently find a way to score (ala LWill) he'd find himself with significantly more playing time.
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Post#818 » by PhillyFan » Thu Mar 3, 2011 12:13 pm

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tgo2223 wrote:+1 And lets not forget two other factors here. Brand contract expires 1yr sooner than Iggys and Brands not keeping Speights from getting minutes. Speights is keeping himself from getting mins. Iggy is in the way of Turner getting minutes at this point

I don't believe that is the case. Turner is keeping Turner from getting minutes. I love the kids game, but he's still a bit head-case-ie and until he gets comfortable, he's shooting himself in the foot. Plus, most of the time he's being outplayed by some combination of Jrue/Meeks/Iguodala/LWill. If Turner could consistently knock down a shot (ala Meeks), consistently find a way to score (ala LWill) he'd find himself with significantly more playing time.


Brand is important to us because of one big factor: we have no other capable bigs besides him. Take him away and we have a combination of Hawes, Battie and Speights guarding the paint. Of course, no one can argue he has been the most consistent player this year.

We can win with Iguodala out of the lineup? Have you not witness the numerous times he has locked down the opposing team's star wing players? He was bothered by injuries in the beginning of the season but has play himself back into shape.

By now, we all know Collins play whoever is hot and earning his minutes. Turner has not been consistent enough this year. I don't understand the logic of playing a player because he is the #2 pick, not because the player is actually capable of playing major minutes.

If you hate him, fine, just say it. Stop making pointless accusations on Iguodala's game. He is not holding back Turner or anyone else on the team. No one can hold you back if you are capable of outplaying your competition.
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Post#819 » by steveb21 » Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:00 pm

At this point I think Igoudala is almost untouchable. Sure, he's not the go-to guy on offense like everyone wants him to be...but that's not his value to the team. He is our lock down, defensive stopper. He's shown that he can consistently nuetralize his opponents best scorer. And now with Carmelo in the division he becomes that much more important.
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Post#820 » by tgo2223 » Thu Mar 3, 2011 11:06 pm

steveb21 wrote:At this point I think Igoudala is almost untouchable. Sure, he's not the go-to guy on offense like everyone wants him to be...but that's not his value to the team. He is our lock down, defensive stopper. He's shown that he can consistently nuetralize his opponents best scorer. And now with Carmelo in the division he becomes that much more important.

So we pay a guy 15mil per to stop one guy. Thats logical...

Just curious. How much did the last ten or so DPOY make
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