Michael Beasley

Post #21 » by **gswhoops** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 1:59 pm

I don't see why Minny would give Beasley for Nick Young...if they want him that badly they can just overpay for him this offseason and dare the Wiz to match.

Post #22 » by **moocow007** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:01 pm

The last thing the Wolves need is a guy that the Wizards would do well to shed from their team for their long term benefit (Blatche). Wolves and Wiz are in the same situation. Both have some really talented young guys and are rebuilding but need to figure out what their direction is and improve as a team. Having "me first" guys like Blatche that really doesn't contribute well to a team dynamic is something neither team needs.

Foye · Post #23 » by **Foye** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:47 pm

Sachmo wrote:I will give you Stephen Jackson for him

We'll I would've traded him for Gerald Wallace but you decided to ship him out for two late 1st that can be bought in basically any draft. :clown:

Not really interested in Nick Young.

fugop · Post #24 » by **fugop** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:15 pm

Beasley is an intriguing talent, but he's not right for the Wizards anyway.

The ball will be in Wall's hands 90% of the time, so Beasley's ability to create his own shot is wasted. And there are residual character concerns that just can't be tolerated given Washington's mental weakness. More fuel for the fire, even were he to replace a knucklehead.

Dr Positivity · Post #25 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:46 pm

The Wizards need to get rid of their dumb enigmas, not add another one

I wouldn't take Beasley for free. I think long term he has Charlie Villaneuva's career. 6th man stretch PF who should be better than he is, gets a 6-7 mil contract from someone, proceeds to be ignored by the people who know winning basketball

I'm not at all upset the Raptors didn't take him.

Dr Positivity · Post #26 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:48 pm

With that said, I kind of love the Bucks for him. Milwaukee's 1st for Beasley? Or is that overpaying

djthesonicsfan · Post #27 » by **djthesonicsfan** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:47 pm

^ Ya, the basic problem with Beasley is that he's not right between the ears. And it's doubtful at this point he's ever going to straighten up. Sure he scores buckets, but there's a ton more to being a legit NBA player. Especially one with a prominent position on a winning team. You'll never find that sort of thing in any of the statistics, but it's real. Gets back to that old saying, "Not all that's counted matters & not all that matters can be counted."

Krapinsky · Post #28 » by **Krapinsky** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:51 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:The Wizards need to get rid of their dumb enigmas, not add another one

I wouldn't take Beasley for free. I think long term he has Charlie Villaneuva's career. 6th man stretch PF who should be better than he is, gets a 6-7 mil contract from someone, proceeds to be ignored by the people who know winning basketball

I'm not at all upset the Raptors didn't take him.

Ridiculous.

Krapinsky · Post #29 » by **Krapinsky** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:56 pm

shangrila wrote:I don't think Beasley gets moved and I think his value to Minnesota would be greater then his general trade value, so it would cost.

I think we would move him in a package for the right player, but it would have to be someone in the Iggy/Granger class. The Wolves are going to have more assets/players than roster spots this summer so something is going to have to give.

IF -- big if -- the Sixers look to move Iggy this summer, then I think a Beasley, Webster, Pekovic offer is a very good one. Turner doesn't look like he will be a go to scorer, so putting him next to Beasley makes sense. Webster gives them a player that, when healthy can stretch the floor. Pekovic gives them a center project with some upside.

Post #30 » by **moocow007** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:57 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:The Wizards need to get rid of their dumb enigmas, not add another one

I wouldn't take Beasley for free. I think long term he has Charlie Villaneuva's career. 6th man stretch PF who should be better than he is, gets a 6-7 mil contract from someone, proceeds to be ignored by the people who know winning basketball

I'm not at all upset the Raptors didn't take him.

The guys being mentioned as possible trade candidates (Nick Young and Andray Blatche) aren't exactly brain surgeons themselves. In fact, for most of his career so far, Wizard fans have been making fun of Young's IQ (mildly (Please Use More Appropriate Word) was one common reference to Young's mental capacity) and Blatche has hardly shown that he's able to think his way out of a closed box. Beasley is no Einstein but honestly, he strikes me as someone that is smarter than either Young or Blatche.

vincecarter4pres · Post #31 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 7:00 pm

moocow007 wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:I'm thinking Travis Outlaw. You might have to include your pick though.

You really need to change your sig to something animated and Outlaw related.

That's actually a great idea. :lol:

vincecarter4pres · Post #32 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 7:04 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Dr Mufasa wrote:The Wizards need to get rid of their dumb enigmas, not add another one

I wouldn't take Beasley for free. I think long term he has Charlie Villaneuva's career. 6th man stretch PF who should be better than he is, gets a 6-7 mil contract from someone, proceeds to be ignored by the people who know winning basketball

I'm not at all upset the Raptors didn't take him.

The guys being mentioned as possible trade candidates (Nick Young and Andray Blatche) aren't exactly brain surgeons themselves. In fact, for most of his career so far, Wizard fans have been making fun of Young's IQ (mildly (Please Use More Appropriate Word) was one common reference to Young's mental capacity) and Blatche has hardly shown that he's able to think his way out of a closed box. Beasley is no Einstein but honestly, he strikes me as someone that is smarter than either Young or Blatche.

Yeah, Beasley is really getting crapped on ITT.

He might not be all there and he might not be the ideal SF or PF, but he still has potential to grow and I don't see him as a cancer or thug, just a knucklehead who's a little different.

I wouldn't give up a ton for him, but at the right price I wouldn't mind my team taking a look at him.

Still think he's pretty similar to Antawn Jamison.

Krapinsky · Post #33 » by **Krapinsky** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 7:55 pm

I think he's a lot like Glenn Robinson and his career will probably follow a similar path. He's definitely a good player, just not a complete player, but still a hell of a lot better than Charlie V.

Sixerlover · Post #34 » by **Sixerlover** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 8:05 pm

Foshan wrote:Philly has no interest in him in an Iguodala deal.

vincecarter4pres · Post #35 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 8:17 pm

Krapinsky wrote:I think he's a lot like Glenn Robinson and his career will probably follow a similar path. He's definitely a good player, just not a complete player, but still a hell of a lot better than Charlie V.

Yeah he's another player I was thinking of as a comparison, but he's much more athletic, mobile and basically in shape. :lol:

He's definitely better then Charlie V.

Krapinsky · Post #36 » by **Krapinsky** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 8:25 pm

Sixerlover wrote:
Foshan wrote:Philly has no interest in him in an Iguodala deal.

What players can you realistically get in an Iggy deal that are better?

Sixerlover · Post #37 » by **Sixerlover** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 8:36 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
Sixerlover wrote:
Foshan wrote:Philly has no interest in him in an Iguodala deal.

What players can you realistically get in an Iggy deal that are better?

I'm pretty sure if we didn't get that young big man that the team wants to Iguodala they'll just sit on him and deny offers (like this deadline). I mean it isn't like he's disgruntled and he's playing the best perimeter defense in the league.

I think Thorn's mind is set on either young big with potential (Gasol, Hibbert) and once that gets denied just keep him.

Dr Positivity · Post #38 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 9:25 pm

Well what made Jamison special is scoring without the ball. He took a lot of shots, but the ball was basically never in his hands until it went up. He was even better at this in college than the NBA

Beasely of course is more of a ball reliant guy and doesn't have the bball IQ to play as well off the ball as Jamison. So I agree with the Glenn Robinson comparison more. But I think Beasley has a long way to go to be Big Dogg was well. Robinson scored 20-22ppg 8 of 9 years, missing it only the lockout year. Beasley only proved it for half a season. Since the new year he's averaging 15ppg on crap percentages

Post #39 » by **revprodeji** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 9:47 pm

shangrila wrote:I don't think Beasley gets moved and I think his value to Minnesota would be greater then his general trade value, so it would cost.

This...

(Ignore Klomp always)

Unless we have a package for a slashing SG then there will not be a Beasley deal. He has bonded with the team and we always seem to mention him when discussing the leaders of the team.

Relentless88 · Post #40 » by **Relentless88** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 9:56 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
Dr Mufasa wrote:The Wizards need to get rid of their dumb enigmas, not add another one

I wouldn't take Beasley for free. I think long term he has Charlie Villaneuva's career. 6th man stretch PF who should be better than he is, gets a 6-7 mil contract from someone, proceeds to be ignored by the people who know winning basketball

I'm not at all upset the Raptors didn't take him.

Ridiculous.

I actually somewhat agree with Mufasa. I'm actually happy he's not on the Raptors. I've watched him play and it is pretty frustrating. Not much on the defensive end, and he seems to like padding his stats. I mean I would've taken Beasley and flipped him somewhere else for more value, but I wouldn't want him on the Raptors.

He certainly has more value than the 2nd round picks he was dealt for, but I don't think he has the value he had after he got drafted. Nick Young/Blatche are the type of players you can get for him IMO. Unless of course he's packaged with someone like Flynn for a much bigger move.