Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread 2.0

defjux21 · Post #361 » by **defjux21** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 4:26 am

Bluest mentioned in one of the hip hop threads, but it seems to be a growing trend these days - the younger artists having little to no respect for the older artists.

I personally would love to see Ghostface put Whiz in his place, but that's just me.

atribecalledrch · Post #362 » by **atribecalledrch** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 4:28 am

j4remi wrote:
We need to kill this phrase of hating because people have been misusing it from morning. How exactly am I hating on Wiz? I heard songs when he was garbage and had a wack flow and it sounded poppy. What u want me to post 40 songs? And look how quick he transitioned into mainstream. He was gunning for this. It's too obvious. You can say I don't like him but that's your assumption. I LIKED him just like how I LIKED Drake. Did you hear Cabin Fever? It's a hot mess. Bunch of generic Lex Luger riddims covered in a hot melty stink of bad lyrics. Only thing good about 2 of the best songs is Big Sean is on it and wrecks it.

Nah man...you're hatin' Look at your OP...you callin' dude out for his fashion sense and hair style...gimme a break. You don't like dude's music is one thing, but fabricating nonsense and ignoring a whole post just to continue the BS is hating. Just keep it one hundred. I don't like Yelawolf's style, I don't call him wack over it. I'm just not feeling him. That's being honest and not hating.[/quote]
Because look how he dress before and look at him there. When has Wiz ever had blonde hair? When has he ever wore Al Pacino leathers? He was always a simple dude.Now he gettin all Hollywood on us. This is how it always happens. That's not HIS fashion sense that's his PR team's fashion sense. You can see the transition in his rhymes already and he is just gonna fade into oblivion.

BallnisaHabit · Post #363 » by **BallnisaHabit** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 4:38 am

Look What I get from Wiz Khalif isn't so much substance, but my friends can relate to him. I feel that he is pigioned hole himself into a rapper that only a party/ blunt party rapper. I personally can't stand him, because I feel like I know exactly what he's going to say before he even spits. In terms of J.Cole I can somewhat relate to Cole as he has that hunger that I feel many people that are recently out of school can relate to as it's more about just trying to make it plain and simple. That's why I **** with Cole. I do hope that he doesn't go the route that Drake went (had a power mixtape then went pop to sell CD's) as his drops this month.
I can't truly make any statements about Yelawolf because of the fact I've only heard pop the trunk and can't relate to the song at all there might be other tracks. (To the dude that is saying Yelawolf is the truth I'd like to hear other songs before I make judgement so if you have songs I'd like to hear.
But where is the love Wale. The guy can spit he paints pictures in his songs, and they have different meanings for different people. I prefer his flow, and lyrics as (especially his more about nothing mixtape)

atribecalledrch · Post #364 » by **atribecalledrch** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 4:45 am

BallnisaHabit wrote:Look What I get from Wiz Khalif isn't so much substance, but my friends can relate to him. I feel that he is pigioned hole himself into a rapper that only a party/ blunt party rapper. I personally can't stand him, because I feel like I know exactly what he's going to say before he even spits. In terms of J.Cole I can somewhat relate to Cole as he has that hunger that I feel many people that are recently out of school can relate to as it's more about just trying to make it plain and simple. That's why I **** with Cole. I do hope that he doesn't go the route that Drake went (had a power mixtape then went pop to sell CD's) as his drops this month.
I can't truley make any statements about Yelawolf because of the fact I've only heard pop the trunk and can't relate to the song at all there might be other tracks. (To the dude that is saying Yelawolf is the truth I'd like to hear other songs before I make judgement so if you have songs I'd like to hear.
But where is the love Wale. The guy can spit he paints pictures in his songs, and they have different meanings for different people. I prefer his flow, and lyrics as (especially his more about nothing mixtape)

Wale is the man. He has versatility. He can come poetic, come party, come suave, come serious. Only thing I worry about with him is that his metaphors can be a little too simple. Back to the Feature is my fave especially Rather Be with You.

Mecca · Post #365 » by **Mecca** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 4:49 am

atribecalledrch wrote:
BallnisaHabit wrote:Look What I get from Wiz Khalif isn't so much substance, but my friends can relate to him. I feel that he is pigioned hole himself into a rapper that only a party/ blunt party rapper. I personally can't stand him, because I feel like I know exactly what he's going to say before he even spits. In terms of J.Cole I can somewhat relate to Cole as he has that hunger that I feel many people that are recently out of school can relate to as it's more about just trying to make it plain and simple. That's why I **** with Cole. I do hope that he doesn't go the route that Drake went (had a power mixtape then went pop to sell CD's) as his drops this month.
I can't truley make any statements about Yelawolf because of the fact I've only heard pop the trunk and can't relate to the song at all there might be other tracks. (To the dude that is saying Yelawolf is the truth I'd like to hear other songs before I make judgement so if you have songs I'd like to hear.
But where is the love Wale. The guy can spit he paints pictures in his songs, and they have different meanings for different people. I prefer his flow, and lyrics as (especially his more about nothing mixtape)

Wale is the man. He has versatility. He can come poetic, come party, come suave, come serious. Only thing I worry about with him is that his metaphors can be a little too simple. Back to the Feature is my fave especially Rather Be with You.

You're 2 lips, they smell like tulips.. Cole killed that song.

Also, Wale's best ish is obviously the Seinfeld gig. New Soul, 5 Minutes, BB, Tito Santana are other non Seinfelds that are nice.

next2spike · Post #366 » by **next2spike** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 4:55 am

Manhattan Project wrote:Finally got around to listening to the Raekwon album, pretty solid. Better than I expected since it was pretty much rushed.

next2spike wrote:You guys put me on to REKS. IDK if it is him, per say, or it is DJ PREMIER's instrumentals. Excited to listen to his album coming March 8th. What would you guys say is his best mixtape to date? Thanks.

He got his new album up already:
http://soundcloud.com/brickrecords/sets ... ng-supreme

As far as his best album since he doesn't do mixtapes, to me that would be Grey Hairs the first one.

Thanks MP. I didn't know that he doesn't do mixtapes. After I listen to this album, I'll check out Grey Hairs.

Fury · Post #367 » by **Fury** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:05 am

j4remi wrote:
Fury wrote:Yelawolf has the best verse in the song. The other ones bore me.

Come on man.

I'm just balancing out the unnecessary hates he gets.

I'm a big Slaughterhouse fan, so it was a bit in jest, but they do get boring at times because it's all wordplay and punchlines and no substance sometimes.

BallnisaHabit · Post #368 » by **BallnisaHabit** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:16 am

xKLNx Phenom wrote:
atribecalledrch wrote:
BallnisaHabit wrote:Look What I get from Wiz Khalif isn't so much substance, but my friends can relate to him. I feel that he is pigioned hole himself into a rapper that only a party/ blunt party rapper. I personally can't stand him, because I feel like I know exactly what he's going to say before he even spits. In terms of J.Cole I can somewhat relate to Cole as he has that hunger that I feel many people that are recently out of school can relate to as it's more about just trying to make it plain and simple. That's why I **** with Cole. I do hope that he doesn't go the route that Drake went (had a power mixtape then went pop to sell CD's) as his drops this month.
I can't truley make any statements about Yelawolf because of the fact I've only heard pop the trunk and can't relate to the song at all there might be other tracks. (To the dude that is saying Yelawolf is the truth I'd like to hear other songs before I make judgement so if you have songs I'd like to hear.
But where is the love Wale. The guy can spit he paints pictures in his songs, and they have different meanings for different people. I prefer his flow, and lyrics as (especially his more about nothing mixtape)

Wale is the man. He has versatility. He can come poetic, come party, come suave, come serious. Only thing I worry about with him is that his metaphors can be a little too simple. Back to the Feature is my fave especially Rather Be with You.

You're 2 lips, they smell like tulips.. Cole killed that song.

Also, Wale's best ish is obviously the Seinfeld gig. New Soul, 5 Minutes, BB, Tito Santana are other non Seinfelds that are nice.

"Me I’m from the Ville where we learn how to mack well
And you gon’ yell when I hit it from the back well
Take you to the crib and throw on a little Maxwell
Grab a condom know cause, ****, I don’t know you that well" - J. Cole

But on Wale if you listen to his freestyles he kills every hot beat that is out there...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtHr8zKKrh0[/youtube]

Read more: http://www.killerhiphop.com/notorious-b ... z1FbYxpbeu

Gimmick · Post #369 » by **Gimmick** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:17 am

Fury wrote:
j4remi wrote:
Fury wrote:Yelawolf has the best verse in the song. The other ones bore me.

Come on man.

I'm just balancing out the unnecessary hates he gets.

I'm a big Slaughterhouse fan, so it was a bit in jest, but they do get boring at times because it's all wordplay and punchlines and no substance sometimes.

If we are talking about Slaughterhouse i'm sure most agree each member brings a unique personality and flow with the wordplay and punchlines you mentioned. If that isn't substance then what is?

I like Yelawolf but i think your overrating him a bit. Not trying to attack you just trying to understand where your coming from, cause it seems like your being unfair on your assessments for other rappers because of it

next2spike · Post #370 » by **next2spike** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:19 am

MP - would you say this current album by REKS is better, or Grey Hairs? I just completed a quick listen of this current album, and I felt the second half of it was pretty good. I do like the song with him and Styles P (big fan), but the beat kills it, in a bad way.

Gimmick · Post #371 » by **Gimmick** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:21 am

I'm surprised nobody mentioned B.O.B yet. The No Genre mixtape was great i think.

Fury · Post #372 » by **Fury** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:23 am

Gimmick wrote:If we are talking about Slaughterhouse i'm sure most agree each member brings a unique personality and flow with the wordplay and punchlines you mentioned. If that isn't substance then what is?

I like Yelawolf but i think your overrating him a bit. Not trying to attack you just trying to understand where your coming from, cause it seems like your being unfair on your assessments for other rappers because of it

It just gets repetitive after a while. I like Slaughtherhouse. Joe Budden is one of my favorite rappers because he brings more than that. But Royce Da 5'9 lately has his Eminem flow and isn't saying much. Joell Ortiz is too busy trying to do multi syllable endings and I have nothing against Crooked I really Just Royce and Ortiz get stale sometimes but they're good. Just that sometimes its punchline after punchline so it's empty.

Post #373 » by **Manhattan Project** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:45 am

next2spike wrote:MP - would you say this current album by REKS is better, or Grey Hairs? I just completed a quick listen of this current album, and I felt the second half of it was pretty good. I do like the song with him and Styles P (big fan), but the beat kills it, in a bad way.

I haven't listened to the new one yet completely, but Id imagine they're on the same level. Reks usually gets better each album so maybe gave this one the nod slightly. Everyone has said that this album gets better as it's progresses though.

atribecalledrch · Post #374 » by **atribecalledrch** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 6:36 am

Gimmick wrote:I'm surprised nobody mentioned B.O.B yet. The No Genre mixtape was great i think.

Batman Flow was fire. Beast Mode fire. Most of those songs were sick.

Th3TrueDynesty · Post #375 » by **Th3TrueDynesty** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 7:06 am

I feel the same way many people feel about wiz.

His old mixtapes like Prince of the City, PotC 2, Grow Season, Show and Prove etc. Where way better IMO than his recent ones such as flight school, star power, etc.

His recent mixtapes aren't bad at all just his flow and lyricism on his older mixtapes are just head and shoulders above the music he makes now. I wish he stayed more to that style than just a bunch of weed songs.

Post #376 » by **j4remi** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 1:11 pm

Gimmick wrote:I'm surprised nobody mentioned B.O.B yet. The No Genre mixtape was great i think.

Problem with B.O.B. is that he panders to his major too. He's only nasty on the mixtape scene. His major label drop was mainly pop music (albeit, quality pop). Wale is that dude. I like him as much as J. Cole or more...but he's with the Bowse now...we'll see if that changes his style too much. I'm hoping not.

And to whoever mentioned the new cats disrespecting the old...it's actually kinda a trend in hip hop that's been building...Nelly dissed KRS dammit :roll:

Post #377 » by **j4remi** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 1:38 pm

Fury wrote:
j4remi wrote:
Fury wrote:Yelawolf has the best verse in the song. The other ones bore me.

Come on man.

I'm just balancing out the unnecessary hates he gets.

I'm a big Slaughterhouse fan, so it was a bit in jest, but they do get boring at times because it's all wordplay and punchlines and no substance sometimes.

Uhmmm...Yelawolf was trying to do wordplay and punchlines do...and was much weaker at that then the others. He brought a nice flow, but every track the dude flows nice on he sacrifices his bars. When he has bars, his flow isn't as on point...he's a flawed rapper right now. Em will likely turn him into something , but you're just calling more attention to him then necessary. Plus SH is almost entirely about bringing mini-concepts to their wordplay and punchlines...which creates a depth and substance to the music. They each have a unique character and style that compliments the others. I repeat, Yelawolf can become nice...but he's got work to do.

Random tangent: But how many rappers today have decided to sacrifice lyrics for double time? Busta is incredible with fast rap, blows my mind every time...but if you look at the words on paper, he's not sayin' ****.

markdeez33 · Post #378 » by **markdeez33** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 1:44 pm

Wiz Khalifa = JOKE. This dude fronts like he's a billionaire when it wasn't up until last year that he was a slave for Chuck Wilson and iHipHop/Babygrande (many of my friends in the industry have been signed by Chuck and subsequently raped for their money). This dude is the most bland artist I've probably ever heard. Average lyrics. Average personality. The thing that saves him is his beat selection. Whoop de doo

J-Cole - he's easily the best "new" emcee out there today. A pure lyricist, a true emcee. He is a different species, a different breed, truly one of the last real emcees there is.

Yelawolf - LOL another GARBAGE rapper. You mean to tell me it took Eminem THIS long to sign a white emcee and he signs this guy? I can name atleast 20 white rappers better than Yelawolf off the top of my head and THIS guy is the guy that Eminem puts his money on? All Yelawolf did was take the style of Outkast and Three Six Mafia, put it together, and attempt to call it his own. He is a scrub!

Its hilarious to me how regressive the state of Hip Hop is today. Mainstream Hip Hop is a JOKE. If you want to hear real music, turn to the underground, that's where the real musical innovation exists.

markdeez33 · Post #379 » by **markdeez33** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 1:49 pm

I'm from Georgia and I don't sound **** like Yelawolf... nothing whatsoever

I embrace REAL HIP HOP culture, not the bull that they push now.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRvdciDG4w4[/youtube]

I'm also a fan of true southern lyricists - Outkast, Goodie Mob, UGK, Cunninlynguists, Supastition, Little Brother, Nappy Roots, etc. - Yelawolf can't hold a candle to any of the true southern artists

markdeez33 · Post #380 » by **markdeez33** » Fri Mar 4, 2011 1:56 pm

J Cole's favorite emcee is Canibus... what does that tell you? TRUE LYRICIST. REAL HIP HOP HEAD. You can't compare an artist who studies true lyricists to these clowns. J COLE is leagues above Wiz/Yelawolf them dudes don't know **** about Hip Hop, you can tell it in their music, but you can tell this is J Cole's passion, those dudes don't even compare.